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If anyone can manifest anything - AnthroHeart - 09-04-2016

What keeps the world from becoming totally whacky?

Surely there are some who can manifest things beyond agreed-upon reality?

Are there lots of miraculous things going on in private?

Some shaman can turn into wolves I hear.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - ada - 09-04-2016

surely, those big-foot type creatures must hold some unknown potential

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - anagogy - 09-04-2016

(09-04-2016, 03:29 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: What keeps the world from becoming totally whacky?

Surely there are some who can manifest things beyond agreed-upon reality?

Are there lots of miraculous things going on in private?

Some shaman can turn into wolves I hear.

I don't know if it is quite so simple.

The mass mind makes reality very solid, because that is the mass agreement of what exists -- the unconscious ratification of group consensus. For some people reality *is* totally whacky. But the racial mind (society) will call those divergent realities not real. So yes, in personal reality, many people experience anomalous phenomena.

It's a bit like modding a game that you play online. You can mod the game all you want, but unless others have the same mod installed, they are just going to see the original content.

Some souls get really good at luring others into their so called mods though, and this is really what magick is. One example of this is charisma, which is a loop of consciousness that continuously associates every other consciousness and thought it comes into interaction with its personal reality and/or belief system. When this action is repeated thousands upon thousands of times it becomes like a kind of inductive trance structure, which continues to attract, influence, and reinforce, in others, the same mental patterns of the "cult leader" we might say. I bring up cult leaders because they are a prime example of what happens when someone with innate magical talent attempts to start a following. These people have a sort of irresistible charm that makes you want to keep listening and investing your emotions into their thoughts, beliefs, and motivations. You get stuck in their reality in other-words.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - AnthroHeart - 09-04-2016

I want to see other dimensions. I've done it before, but I'd like to record by writing my experiences.
That is if it ever happens again. My personal reality can sometimes be magical seeming.
But I sometimes have little control over what I see.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Dog Star - 09-04-2016

(09-04-2016, 06:01 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I want to see other dimensions. I've done it before, but I'd like to record by writing my experiences.
That is if it ever happens again. My personal reality can sometimes be magical seeming.
But I sometimes have little control over what I see.

I would like to hear that.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Aion - 09-09-2016

(09-04-2016, 05:52 PM)anagogy Wrote:
(09-04-2016, 03:29 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: What keeps the world from becoming totally whacky?

Surely there are some who can manifest things beyond agreed-upon reality?

Are there lots of miraculous things going on in private?

Some shaman can turn into wolves I hear.

I don't know if it is quite so simple.

The mass mind makes reality very solid, because that is the mass agreement of what exists -- the unconscious ratification of group consensus. For some people reality *is* totally whacky. But the racial mind (society) will call those divergent realities not real. So yes, in personal reality, many people experience anomalous phenomena.

It's a bit like modding a game that you play online. You can mod the game all you want, but unless others have the same mod installed, they are just going to see the original content.

Some souls get really good at luring others into their so called mods though, and this is really what magick is. One example of this is charisma, which is a loop of consciousness that continuously associates every other consciousness and thought it comes into interaction with its personal reality and/or belief system. When this action is repeated thousands upon thousands of times it becomes like a kind of inductive trance structure, which continues to attract, influence, and reinforce, in others, the same mental patterns of the "cult leader" we might say. I bring up cult leaders because they are a prime example of what happens when someone with innate magical talent attempts to start a following. These people have a sort of irresistible charm that makes you want to keep listening and investing your emotions into their thoughts, beliefs, and motivations. You get stuck in their reality in other-words.

While I understand your use of cult leaders as an example I would like to point out that there are also positive approaches to group organizations and not every case of one person with strong ideas is a case of a budding cult. Many of the spiritual masters we enjoy the works of today had many followers. Hell, we don't call the Dalai Lama a cult leader, right?

I know you were just using an example so I just wanted to fill in the other side of things.

Imagine the Buddha cult aha I partly say this as a defense of magic because perhaps unintentionally you have implied that all magic is of the makings of cults. I'm sure you did not mean that but just to clarify.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - anagogy - 09-09-2016

(09-09-2016, 12:23 PM)Aion Wrote: While I understand your use of cult leaders as an example I would like to point out that there are also positive approaches to group organizations and not every case of one person with strong ideas is a case of a budding cult. Many of the spiritual masters we enjoy the works of today had many followers. Hell, we don't call the Dalai Lama a cult leader, right?

I know you were just using an example so I just wanted to fill in the other side of things.

Imagine the Buddha cult aha I partly say this as a defense of magic because perhaps unintentionally you have implied that all magic is of the makings of cults. I'm sure you did not mean that but just to clarify.

Yes, there are definitely positive charismatic individuals, and I'm certainly not saying that all magic is about making (negative) cults. There are positive cults, though most people have an aversion to the word "cult". To me, it is a neutral term. I would call all organized religions cults, but like I said, most people would (wrongly) assume I mean something negative by that, when in reality I just mean they involve "a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object" or that it constitutes "a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange" or possibly "an excessive admiration for a particular person or thing."

But yeah, there are definitely positive individuals who lead people into new and more positive belief systems. In fact, I would say that is what most light workers/wanderers are constantly doing when they get the chance to lead others out of restrictive beliefs into broader ones.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - AnthroHeart - 09-09-2016

I went to a church for about 10 years that many people called a cult. It was because of their dogma.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - anagogy - 09-09-2016

(09-09-2016, 04:29 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I went to a church for about 10 years that many people called a cult. It was because of their dogma.

Like I said, most people have an aversion to the word and use it in a pejorative sense, but traditionally the term is not necessarily negative in nature. Society likes to change the meaning of words.

"The word "cult" was originally used not to describe a group of religionists, but for the act of worship or religious ceremony. It was first used in the early 17th century, borrowed via the French culte, from Latin cultus (worship). This, in turn, was derived from the adjective cultus (inhabited, cultivated, worshiped), based on the verb colere (care, cultivate). The word "culture" is also derived from the Latin words cultura and cultus, which in general terms refers to the customary beliefs, social forms and material traits of a religious or social group." --wikipedia

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Mahakali - 09-10-2016

(09-04-2016, 03:29 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: What keeps the world from becoming totally whacky?

Four years ago, I slit my wrists under a secluded bridge. And I'd flirted with suicide before, but this is the first time that I really, truly wanted to die, unlike all the other times - I realized that when the last-moment will-to-live failed to kick in. At the moment the world went black, I was thinking about entering an alternate universe.

I woke up, disappointed that I didn't die, washed the blood off my arms/clothes in a nearby creek, and went home.

Next thing I know,

Donald Trump is a front-running presidential candidate for the Republican party,

Jewish cyborgs are battling against Nazi Satanists for control of the world,

New York officially recognizes no less than 31 genders and no more than infinity,

evil pedophile clowns with crazy lights start appearing in multiple states, trying to lure children with candy before disappearing into the woods, and no police can find them,

the U.S. government starts doing some cracked-out s*** that makes Orwell's Big Brother look like a pussy,

Juggalos are considered by the FBI to be a national-level gang,

when I imagine myself battling a mountain lion, one appears in my town for the first time in decades,

and crazier stuff I don't even want to talk about.

Maybe this world is just a collection of patterns, and in time/space they can be arranged at will, but this needs to be done on an individual level? Maybe I actually did end up in a crazy alternate dimension, and I'm just looking at the people I'm posting with, and this whole site, and everything else, from a different direction... and we're all in our own little realities looking at different patterns (ideas/things/people/etc.) from "different directions", and we interact at our points of agreement....

I dunno.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Aion - 09-10-2016

Choose your Nexus.

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RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Bourbon Betty - 09-10-2016

I've come to call it, the barrier of laughs, or the initial resistance in the universal audience to your next proposed reality, seeing as how you're not really good at managing this reality either.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Mahakali - 09-10-2016

(09-10-2016, 02:46 AM)Aion Wrote: Choose your Nexus.

[Image: Flower-of-Life-61circles.png]

I've seen that so many times, and I never once considered what it actually meant.

How many dimensions does this work in? I feel like there are an infinite number. I can see that diagram in three dimensions, plus one beyond that.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - AnthroHeart - 09-10-2016

I think one above that image is Metatron's cube.

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Mahakali - 09-10-2016

I thought metatron's cube was related to the hexagram and to a particular energy configuration in the head?

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Dog Star - 09-10-2016

its the same flower

RE: If anyone can manifest anything - Aion - 09-10-2016

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