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Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Chandlersdad - 08-29-2016 I am still working my way through the books. So this question may be answered within the text. However, I will ask here. Does Ra ever define what they consider A CALLING? In an early session they claim slightly less than 700,000 humans are calling the Confederation. That is about 1% of the humans residing on Earth today. Obviously, if a consensus of all humans would be needed before the Confederation appears in their golden radiance, I think it is safe to assume this will never happen. You could not get 7 billion humans to agree on just about anything. But evaluating this depends on what the Confederation considers a CALL. Certainly, a lot more than 700,000 are praying for spiritual help on the planet. Prayer is an accepted part of most religions. Putting aside the numbers within religion that do not actually pray (although they may feign doing so), I still would claim that there are at least a billion+ out of 7 billion who pray, since Earth is a religion saturated planet. I read somewhere that there are over 4500 different gods being worshiped in the 21st century. Must a call go Directly to the Confederation? Must people say "Confederation of Planets, help us!" Or must it be like the old Karen Carpenter song "Calling occupants of interplanetary craft!" Thanks for your views. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - AnthroHeart - 08-29-2016 I think it means being in vibrational resonance with Ra (or the Confederation). Ra probably isn't aware of those people whose vibration is so much different than theirs, cause they exist in another reality. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Aion - 08-29-2016 This is what Ra says as to the numbers (this was in the 80s). Quote:7.6 Questioner: About how many entities at present are calling from planet Earth for your services? Not sure where you got your number from. As for the actual call I don't think they explain exactly what it is because the group never asked them to. It seems the trio already had a sense of what the word meant, however Ra does give some info on the mechanics of the calling. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Aion - 08-29-2016 (08-29-2016, 02:12 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I think it means being in vibrational resonance with Ra (or the Confederation). I would disagree with you there. I don't think difference means unable to perceive and be aware. Just like we can stare in to a fire but it doesn't mean we are compatible with being in its space. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - anagogy - 08-29-2016 Well, I'm not sure if they define what a calling is precisely, but I always kind of just assumed it was mentally asking in a sincere way for help from some particular entity or another. The percentages are going to be skewed because the population difference between now and when Ra was channeled, and because of the fact that there are a whole lot more people aware of the confederation than back then. Thus most people are sending their requests to the one infinite creator, or different aspects of the one infinite creator, because that is what most religions worship. And some other individuals send their requests to space aliens because I guess that is what they are more comfortable with. And since neither really interferes with 3rd density free will, they basically just send love and light to the extent that a given individual is able to accept or receive it. So some measure of comfort and inspiration basically. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Aion - 08-29-2016 Quote:noun. This definition on Google seems to pretty much imply to me what happens. I think it happens through one's very being and is a function of a strong desire to get the attention of some entity. It's literally that the vibration of your being resonates and 'calls' out for a response from the universe. However, I think Ra also includes in that actual literally calling with your voice and is highlighted in this little ritual they gave them here. Quote:2.6 Questioner: Consider them asked. I mean, I don’t have anything to go on. What is the proper use of this instrument? What should we do to maximize her ability to… comfort, rejuvenation, etc.? RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Bring4th_Austin - 08-29-2016 I often see people equating the "calling" and a sort of "majority vibration" with the Confederation being able to appear to us in person. I don't think that these things are as related as it seems to be. I'm sure there is an aspect of cultural accumulation, a percentage of people within a culture who feel a certain way about learning directly about ETs that would allow such an interaction, but I don't think that can be equated with the calling. The calling, to me, is calling for their help. How they help isn't necessarily determined by the type of calling done. The Confederation's interaction with Earth has changed and shifted in nature over the course of history, always adapting to the effect they were having. It was not the number of those calling that allowed them to walk among the Egyptians, and it wasn't a decrease in calling that caused the Confederation to cease interaction with humans directly. It was how these interactions were affecting those who called. I believe determining the method of response to the call is a large part of their own lessons. They can respond by offering thought-form experiences for certain individuals, disseminating information via outlets such as human channels, influencing dreams, interacting in even more subtle ways, or perhaps one of the greatest responses Earth is receiving right now - wanderers. It is the calling that allows wanderers to incarnate. Without the calling, wanderers would not be here. What exactly constitutes a calling seems to be vague and not necessarily consistent for each individual. The quote Aion shared shows this, as Ra can differentiate between them being called specifically versus the Confederation being called in its entire spectrum. And when they interacted with the Egyptians, Ra said it was their interest in the sun which allowed them to make contact because "this vibrates in concordance with our particular distortions." So I think the idea of calling is complicated and subtle. But when talking about the calling, which seems to be mostly what Ra references, there seems to be a strong connection between "sorrow" and the calling: Quote:7.7 Quote:12.26 Quote:14.8 I think that many wanderers still feel this calling while they are incarnate, but without context (such as what Ra provides), it can be confusing and painful. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Chandlersdad - 08-29-2016 (08-29-2016, 02:13 PM)Aion Wrote: This is what Ra says as to the numbers (this was in the 80s). Sigh.....I could not remember the exact figure. I knew it was in the 630,000+ range so I rounded up to 700,000, which makes it easy to calculate a percentage of 1% of the population. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Jade - 08-29-2016 I can think of one quote where Ra sort of describes the mechanism that facilitates a calling: Quote:21.14 Questioner: Then we have a condition where at the end of the first 25,000-year period, I would say the— I am guessing that the Guardians discovered that there was no harvest of either positive or negatively oriented entities. Tell me then what happened? What action was taken, etc.? A calling is when something is directly asking for help from an "outside" source. Humans could be lost in their confusion to the point where they don't even realize they need help - and we all know how discarnate entities feel about offering help to those who haven't asked for it: It's a free will violation. So a "call" is a request to another being for service, that an entity can attempt to fill while preserving the free will of the entity making the call. It's like if I see someone struggling with something, there becomes a point where I recognize that they are, on some level, verbally or nonverbally, but surely, asking for help with the task. Offering to help before they ask would be learn/teaching for them. Waiting for the call means that the person soliciting help recognizes, at some level, unity: That is, that two heads are better than one. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Aion - 08-29-2016 (08-29-2016, 04:02 PM)Chandlersdad Wrote:(08-29-2016, 02:13 PM)Aion Wrote: This is what Ra says as to the numbers (this was in the 80s). Ah, but it says millions, not thousands, yes? 632,000,000. That is what I meant by a difference in number aha In 1984 the global population was about 4.75 billion, so 632 million of that is somewhere around 7.5%~ish. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Aion - 08-29-2016 I would be very curious to know if the number has increased since the contact in the 80s and the current percentage, for sure. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - BlatzAdict - 08-29-2016 (08-29-2016, 02:01 PM)Chandlersdad Wrote: I am still working my way through the books. So this question may be answered within the text. maybe they are already answering our calls and go largely unnoticed. I choose to believe that the Confederation is already answering our calls to the best of their ability still without affecting the general free will of the planet, and allowing each soul to continue to choose for themselves whether or not their thoughts are heard. I would say that their thoughts are heard as long as their chakras are largely cleared for energy to pass as all energy contains information. Information in the form of emotional imprints, memories, visualizations, intentions. It's no longer a dispute as to whether or not ETs are here. It's more a question of what are they doing here, and how can we find evidence to show they are doing what they can to prevent a total planetary destruction. [video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4byMQIk_iGQ [/video] in my humble opinion, i believe that the Confederation of Planets has always been here in the vicinity and always has been watching. I also believe they will remain here, Ensuring the progress of Harvest from start to finish until it's been completed. I believe they only have the power to intervene at a level of affairs that affects the whole planet as it is up to us to take care of ourselves and have a society that would be positive enough to be able to interact with the Confederation. People are not ready. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - AnthroHeart - 08-29-2016 I think if the veil were raised, people would begin to understand. I think we should have the veil for only so long in our life, before it gets lifted. Then we'd still have motivation to know our true self. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Chandlersdad - 08-29-2016 (08-29-2016, 06:38 PM)Aion Wrote:(08-29-2016, 04:02 PM)Chandlersdad Wrote:(08-29-2016, 02:13 PM)Aion Wrote: This is what Ra says as to the numbers (this was in the 80s). How embarrassing for me. Well, take heart that I was a financial analyst in the West Coast stock exchange right before the crash in 1987. Did I leave out a few zeros? RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Aion - 08-30-2016 Aha Easy to miss! RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Bourbon Betty - 08-30-2016 (08-29-2016, 02:01 PM)Chandlersdad Wrote: I am still working my way through the books. So this question may be answered within the text. In the sense of defining how to contact them, or pray, or build infrastructure relating to ... things ... No. Far as I can tell, we never got plans to build a stargate in the details. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pfOFCUjmEU RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Manjushri - 08-30-2016 I know it's not the answer to your question but I have always believed that what they (Ra) meant by being personally called was this: Any time someone on earth has sincerely (through faith) bowed their head and prayed to God for help. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - AnthroHeart - 08-30-2016 (08-30-2016, 10:18 AM)Manjushri Wrote: I know it's not the answer to your question but I have always believed that what they (Ra) meant by being personally called was this: Yeah, you pray through your heart, rather than mind. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - kycahi - 09-02-2016 I never thought about this before, so this is just off the top of my head. I conceive of a hierarchy of entities noticing things around us. When we pray to the Creator, this also goes to our higher self, for example. The HS, then, can make the "call" to whomever HS thinks would benefit the asker. So that may be the "routing" of a call to the Confederation, or Ra, if they are not the same. I think that the higher self handles many pleas and doesn't need to pass them along. Just a guess, though. Meditate for an improved 2-way connection with your HS. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - ada - 09-02-2016 (08-30-2016, 11:30 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Yeah, you pray through your heart, rather than mind. I tend to look at the night sky and speak a prayer through my heart, usually a fallen star would pass, kinda beautiful. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - AnthroHeart - 09-02-2016 I'd love to lay in the yard at night looking at the stars, but mostly it's cloudy here, and we have painful sticker burrs all over our yard. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Infinite Unity - 07-15-2018 (08-29-2016, 02:01 PM)Chandlersdad Wrote: I am still working my way through the books. So this question may be answered within the text. merely thinking of an entity can create a calling. RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - loostudent - 07-16-2018 Is monotheism considered as a call? Quote:14.26 Questioner: When you contact the entities in their dreams and otherwise, these entities, I assume, have to be first seeking in the direction of the Law of One. Is this correct? RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - sequoyah - 07-18-2018 I recall from a quo session a question similar to this and they responded it was as obvious as a baby crying in the night or something like that.... RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - Infinite - 03-15-2020 (07-18-2018, 05:45 PM)sequoyah Wrote: I recall from a quo session a question similar to this and they responded it was as obvious as a baby crying in the night or something like that.... Quote:R: I have one last question on a different subject. But before I say it, I feel that I want to say, at least from my limited viewpoint, that the work that the Confederation is doing with its diligence and attention to free will is deeply inspiring, at least to me, and since I’m part of everyone else it must be so for other people as well. Source: https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2008/2008_0315.aspx RE: Does Ra ever define what they considier a CALLING? - sillypumpkins - 03-15-2020 would that urge/calling/desire to seek be considered catalyst in and of itself? |