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Time travel - ada - 04-21-2016
Silly question here, has Ra ever confirmed time travel? Not as in telepathy/communication, but actually traveling back in time?
RE: Time travel - AnthroHeart - 04-21-2016
Ra did say our higher self (which could be Ra) is us in the future. So they have traveled back in time to work with us, because they are outside of time.
RE: Time travel - Night Owl - 04-21-2016
That's not a silly question but it is hard to answer as there are so many aspects to your question. I don't think Ra has covered directly your question that way but has instead given little clues here and there. From what I know you can travel in time in time/space. The more you climb the density the more you become timeless because time is nothing concrete but rather something you experience as a result of the experience. Given that the LOO doesn't contradict quantum mechanics so far, I think you can have a basic understanding of time with quantum mechanics. Basically time is entertwined with space like 2 axis of the same variable. The way I understand it is that space/time is what we experience daily on earth as being infinite time divided by a finite amount of space where time/space as in dreams is the opposite: infinite amount of space divided by a finite amount of time being the amount of time you sleep. Both also have an infinite access to energy. The difference being what is finite and what is infinite. What we experience as being a finite amount of space on earth is of course an illusion because the more you experience a huge amount of space and galaxies the more space becomes infinite and time becomes an obsolete concept. I hope that's of any help to you.
RE: Time travel - anagogy - 04-21-2016
(04-21-2016, 05:36 PM)Papercut Wrote: Silly question here, has Ra ever confirmed time travel? Not as in telepathy/communication, but actually traveling back in time?
Ra doesn't directly come out and say "extraterrestrials are time travelers" but they have explicitly stated that higher density technology/craft travel through space by slingshotting through time/space (non local hyperspace). And they have stated that in time/space all events are simultaneous.
Beyond that, I absolutely believe that they do. However, I'm guessing the law of confusion/law of free will severely limits significant changes to the timeline. I'm also a believer in the Everett many worlds hypothesis which posits an infinity of alternate realities, one for each possibility. So who is to say you would even end up in the same past that you traveled through the first time? Thus someone may appear to go back in time, and attempt to make changes, but the changes have no actual effect on the timeline you came from because you are now in a different timeline. This may be one of the mechanisms that protect the balance of free will in regards to time travel.
But who knows for sure. Time is one of my favorite subjects.
RE: Time travel - Aion - 04-21-2016
They say they can be with us in "any of [our]" times so I presume once you cross over in to the timelessness of Unity that you can essentially travel across time.
RE: Time travel - ada - 04-22-2016
(04-21-2016, 07:30 PM)anagogy Wrote:(04-21-2016, 05:36 PM)Papercut Wrote: Silly question here, has Ra ever confirmed time travel? Not as in telepathy/communication, but actually traveling back in time?
Ra doesn't directly come out and say "extraterrestrials are time travelers" but they have explicitly stated that higher density technology/craft travel through space by slingshotting through time/space (non local hyperspace). And they have stated that in time/space all events are simultaneous.
Beyond that, I absolutely believe that they do. However, I'm guessing the law of confusion/law of free will severely limits significant changes to the timeline. I'm also a believer in the Everett many worlds hypothesis which posits an infinity of alternate realities, one for each possibility. So who is to say you would even end up in the same past that you traveled through the first time? Thus someone may appear to go back in time, and attempt to make changes, but the changes have no actual effect on the timeline you came from because you are now in a different timeline. This may be one of the mechanisms that protect the balance of free will in regards to time travel.
But who knows for sure. Time is one of my favorite subjects.
This is somewhat what I had in mind regarding the grandfather paradox.
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RE: Time travel - BlatzAdict - 04-22-2016
ra mentioned to look at time as a circle and not so much as a straight line,
all present moments are connected through an eternal now, where there is no such before or after, there just is.
time is an illusion but an important catalyst in polarization towards any orientation good or bad.
RE: Time travel - ada - 04-22-2016
Very nice indeed, your comments are all accepted with love. Thank you
RE: Time travel - Minyatur - 04-23-2016
The thoth tablets speak of astral travelling through time.
RE: Time travel - tadeus - 06-28-2021
(04-21-2016, 05:36 PM)ada Wrote: Silly question here, has Ra ever confirmed time travel? Not as in telepathy/communication, but actually traveling back in time?
Your question is to travel with a body through the time in space/time?
Travelling without the body, only with your spirit, is described in many sources.
It is part at a certain step of an initiation ritual to become an adept.
RE: Time travel - Anders - 06-28-2021
I learned that esoteric information is often veiled, and sometimes with multiple meanings of terms. And my interpretation of "time travel" as a New Age term is that it sometimes means intervention from higher density beings instead of actual physical time travel. Since those beings are from a higher density it can be interpreted as they coming from the "future" in terms of development instead of from an actual physical future.
RE: Time travel - Loki - 07-27-2021
Time travel does not exist because time is fundamentally the present moment. The only real moment in time is the one we live right now. What Ra calls space/time and time/space is a framework for evolution, is a Creationist Computer or Creationist PlayStation. But even those computers work in real time which is the present moment.
We, as a higher selves, can go back or forward in time freely but not to a present moment in the past or future but to a recordings of a present moment in the past or in the future. In other words we will see ourselves which we were at that time (or will be at the time) and cannot enter that frame of time and interact with it. How can it be a recording of the future? It can be because creation is an application and every possible outcome is known before it happens. It is still the self (its free will) the one that decides which of many possible futures will chose when that moment will come.
When Ra says Higher Self is us in mid-sixth density he doesn't mean it temporarily but as vintage point of spiritual evolution or in other words spiritually. What Ra means to say (if you ask me) is that higher self is us evolved up to mid-sixth density from where he can see the octave from end to end.
When Ra says Self, Higher Self, and the Complex Totality are three points on a circle... that circle is not temporal cycle but a spiritual circle. He is referring at the spiritual dimension
If you think about it we are part of Creator which means we were around from before the temporal phase of this galaxy. Creator is immortal we are immortal but this octave of existence is temporary. We did not have yet experiences before the temporal phase started but we were parts of Creator Consciousness. We waited for the temporal phase of the galaxy to be ignited in order for us to start the evolutionary game. So Higher Self is us at all the time in the everlasting absolute preset moment, but having a higher vantage point (or being able to see a bigger picture than us). Higher self is higher up on consciousnesses dimension, closer to the one Creator. The missing dimension from time/space space/time is the spiritual or consciousness dimension on which we (love) evolve moving back towards the Centre/Creator as so does the light.
RE: Time travel - tadeus - 08-12-2021
(07-27-2021, 01:28 PM)Loki Wrote: Time travel does not exist because time is fundamentally the present moment. The only real moment in time is the one we live right now. What Ra calls space/time and time/space is a framework for evolution, is a Creationist Computer or Creationist PlayStation. But even those computers work in real time which is the present moment.
Then time travel is only fictional in the Akasha cronicle.
It is a good explanation why there cannot be any paradoxon in it.