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The Orion Material - cloud - 09-10-2015
After some deep digging around both sides of the web I found this intrigueging data. I leave it here for your interpretation and feedback. What do you think of it?
Version A:
http://www.focusonrecovery.net/mattersoffaith/Lucifer_Potentiator.html
Hidden_Hand, lucifer, mother, teacher, destroyer, Catalyst, potentiator, Harvest,
What provides the exciter/catalyst which promote our learning adventure?
Desire? Where does such desire originate?
Is it within our-self?
Do we even have the potential to progress without stimuli from outside of
our-self?
Without stimuli from outside of the self, do we become lukewarm (complacent), thus
a Potentiator was added in order to cause us to move, to progress much as a
cowboy uses a cattle prod?
The Potentiator
The one most call "Jesus" told Peter that Lucifer has been given desire to sift you as wheat.
Is the Social Memory Complex that Calls its-self "Lucifer" our Potentiator, the Sifter as Hidden_Hand eluded to?
Is Hidden-Hand telling the truth? Is he delusional? Or is he telling us what he has been programmed from birth to believe? I will
leave it up to my reader to, not only consider the following as merely the perceptions of others, but also to investigate who the
following perspectives originate;
Hidden_Hand and Potential;
"We (our Bloodline Families), as a Group Soul or Social Memory Complex (Lucifer), were on the verge of Seventh Density
Ascension, though at this level, before Harvest comes, we have the choice to progress higher, or, to return to help others of lower
densities with their own evolution, by passing down our knowledge and Wisdom (Light) to those that call upon us for assistance,
with their own Free Will.
Now, at this time, having made our decision to stay and help our Galactic Brothers and Sisters in The One, we were assigned a
challenging task by the Council of Elders, who act as the Guardians of this Galaxy from their Eighth Density 'Head Quarters' on
the planet Saturn.
Yahweh, due to the fact that he had NOT (as was his right as Planetary Logos) (Or known as "Word" in the Bible) handed down his
own Free Will to "know thyself" to those incarnating upon 'his' planet, was having very little evolutionary progress therein. So we
(Lucifer) were sent to help. Once the order was given from the Council of Elders, we "Fell", or Descended back to a place where
we could, with hard work and focus, once again materialize a 3rd Density manifestation of ourself.
Yahweh had agreed to our coming, in fact it was he who had initially asked the Council for a "Catalyst" of change to enter into his
Creation, and share the knowledge and wisdom we had attained through our Ascensions. In the absence of Free Will upon the
planet, there can be no Polarity, and therefore, nothing to 'choose' between. Just as is portrayed in the book of Genesis, the
planet was very "Edenic" in nature. Sure, it was a lovely 'paradise', yet the Beings incarnating there had no agitator toward
evolving beyond the 3rd Density, and therefore, little hope of ever making the journey Home, to The One. Yahweh has been
happy to keep his own little pet Eden Project in effect, but with little chance of the Souls here making it Home, it had become in
effect, an albeit very beautiful 'Prison'. Yahweh was, in modern parlance, running a benign dictatorship.
Without Polarity, (derived from Free Will), there is only the Unity of Love and Light, and no choice to experience 'other than' that.
So, we were to be the Catalyst for change, in order to provide that choice, thus bringing Polarity. Yahweh agreed that we would
introduce the concept of Free Will to Earth's inhabitants, by offering them an initial choice, as to whether they 'wanted' it or not.
Hence, "The Tree of the Knowledge of 'Good and Evil'" (or more accurately, the Knowledge of Polarity, of Positive or Negative).
Yahweh takes his inhabitants to a new 'garden' and tells them you can do anything you like, except this one thing, thus creating
the desire to do the one thing there are told they cannot. Hence, a "Choice". We provide the Catalyst by telling them the benefits
of attaining Knowledge, they eat from the tree, and the rest is history.
Yahweh thought that his 'Children' would still choose to obey him, and when he discovered they did not, he became angry. As he
himself describes in his scriptures, he is a "Jealous God", and he did not like it that his 'children' had chose to disobey him, and
follow our advice. We're already committed to being here for a predefined set of "Cycles" to help provide the Catalyst for Human
evolution, namely by offering you the Negative Option, or that which you choose to call "evil". Now that Free Will had been
granted, Yahweh could not retract it, and we have to stay here as contracted to continue to provide the planet with the Polarity
choice. Since then, Yahweh has confined us (as a Group Soul) here within the Earth's Astral Planes (which is very constricting
and uncomfortable for a Being of our Wisdom and experience).
The Council of Elders gave us the choice to be released (against Yahweh's will), but at the cancellation of our contract to Serve
the planet earth; or to remain and fulfil our assignment, and endure Yahweh's self proclaimed "Wrath". We stayed, but as a
karmic result of our Group Soul's confinement by Yahweh, our own individuated Souls were given the mandate (by The Council)
to "Rule" over Yahweh's people during our physical incarnations here on your planet.
Let's be clear about one thing though. All of this (physical life / incarnation), is a very intricate and skillfully designed Game,
whereby the One Infinite Creator, plays the game of forgetting who It is, so that It can learn to remember, and in doing so,
experience and know Itself as Creator. All the way down to us tiny individuated sparks of the All That Is. Off stage, and between
"Lives" (zero-point time / anti-matter Universe) as incarnated "human beings", we, all of us / you (as Souls), are great friends.
Brothers and Sisters in The One.
Between 'lives' we all have a great laugh about the parts we have performed in the 'play', and look forward to and have great fun
preparing the next chapters to act out."
Version B:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/secret_societies/deep_insider_creation_story
In the Beginning
In the beginning, there is the Infinite One. This is the source of All That Is. Infinite consciousness. Intelligent infinity. There is unity. Infinite intelligence and infinite energy – the two are one, and the potential for all creation is contained therein. Infinite intelligence does not recognize its potential. It is the undifferentiated absolute. This state of consciousness could be termed as "being". Infinite energy, in contrast, recognizes the potential of "becoming" all things. Infinite intelligence can be likened to the central heartbeat of life, and infinite energy to the spiritual life-blood which pumps out from the Creator to form the creation.
In effect, the Creator is a point of focused infinite consciousness expressing infinite intelligent energy. On focusing its infinite intelligence, the One Infinite Creator manifests intelligent energy which you could call the great central sun. It then divides itself into smaller portions of itself that can, in turn, experience themselves as creators or central suns, thus beginning the next step in the creational spiral. In other words, each central sun or creator is a step down in conscious awareness (or distortion) from the original "thought" of creation.
Creation is based upon three primary laws or distortions of the Infinite One: free will, love, and light. In the first law, the creator receives the free will to know and experience itself as an individuated, though paradoxically unified, aspect of the One. In the second, the initial distortion of free will becomes a focus point of awareness known as Logos, or love, which uses its infinite intelligent energy to co-create a vast array of physical manifestations which will best offer the range of potential experiences in which it can know itself. To manifest this infinite spiritual or life-force energy into a physical form, Logos creates the third distortion of light. Wherever thus exists any form of physical matter, there is light, love, and divine intelligent energy at it's core.
So using the law of free will, the One Infinite Creator steps down its infinite energy to become Logos. Logos designs vast universes of space, stepping down and splitting itself into an array of sub-Logos, each of which becomes a co-creator of its own universe. Each universal Logos then designs and creates its own version of physical reality by focusing its intelligent energy to create, for instance, the form of galaxies within itself. Stepping down again, each galactic Logos can split itself into yet further co-creator portions (sub-sub-Logos), which can then design and manifest their own ideas of physical reality, as in the form of stars and planets.
Yahweh, Lucifer, and the Ruling Bloodlines
We are not directly created by the One Infinite Creator, but rather by our own Logos, sub-Logos, or sub-sub-Logos. Your creator, the one who has been called Yahweh, is not "God" inasmuch as your Bible refers to him as being the one true God. He is "a" creator (or sub-sub-Logos) rather than the One Infinite Creator. He is not a galactic level Logos, but rather is the planetary Logos for this one planet. Yet ultimately, all are a part of the One. And either consciously or unconsciously, all are exercising their free will to create.
I am a generational member of a ruling bloodline family. Our lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. Our creator is the one you refer to as Lucifer, "the Light Bearer". Our creator is not "the Devil", as has been portrayed in some religious texts. Lucifer is what you would call a "group soul" which has evolved to the level of the sixth density (dimension or plane of existence). At one point our bloodline families, as a group soul, were on the verge of seventh density ascension. At this level, we had the choice to progress higher, or to return to help others of lower densities with their evolution. Having made our decision to stay and help, we were assigned a challenging task by the Council of Elders, who act as the guardians of this galaxy.
Yahweh, due to the fact that he had not handed down his own free will to "know thyself" to those incarnating upon his planet, was having very little evolutionary progress therein. In the absence of free will, there can be no polarity, and therefore, nothing to choose between. As is portrayed in the book of Genesis, the Earth was very Edenic in nature. Sure, it was a lovely paradise, yet the beings incarnating here had no agitator toward evolving beyond the third density, and therefore, little hope of ever making the journey home to the One.
So we (Lucifer) were sent to help. Once the order was given from the Council of Elders, we "fell", or descended back to a place where we could, with hard work and focus, once again materialize a third density manifestation of ourself. Yahweh had agreed to our coming. In fact, it was he who had initially asked the Council for a "catalyst" of change to enter into his creation. Yahweh agreed that we would introduce the concept of free will to Earth's inhabitants by offering them an initial choice. Hence, "The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" (or more accurately, the knowledge of polarity – of positive and negative).
Yahweh then takes his inhabitants to a new "garden". He tells them they can do anything they like except eating from the Tree of Knowledge, thus creating in them the desire to do the one thing they are told they cannot. Hence, a "choice". We provide the catalyst by telling them the benefits of attaining knowledge. They then choose to eat from the tree, and the rest is history.
Yahweh thought that his "children" would still choose to obey him. When he discovered they did not, he became angry. As is described in his scriptures, he is a jealous God. He did not like it that his children had chosen to disobey him and follow our advice. Yet our group soul was already committed to being here for a predefined set of cycles to help provide the catalyst for human evolution, namely by offering you the negative option, or that which you choose to call "evil".
And so from the earliest times of recorded history and beyond, our group soul has been directing the play from behind the scenes. We are born to lead. It is part of the design for this current paradigm. People in this world are seen as collateral – pawns that are maneuvered around the chess board according to the game plan. But contrary to popular beliefs, many of us do not mean you any harm. We know that you are divine souls, sparks or seeds of the One Infinite Creator. You are life itself, remembering and learning who you really are. There is just the matter of divine destiny to uphold and unfold.
The Game of Life
All of this is a very intricate and skillfully designed game, whereby the One Infinite Creator plays the game of forgetting who it is, so that it can learn to remember, and thus experience itself as Creator, all the way down to us tiny individuated sparks of the All That Is. Off stage and between lives (zero-point time/antimatter universe), we are all great friends, brothers and sisters in the One. Between lives we all have a good laugh about the parts we have performed in the "play" and have great fun preparing the next chapters to act out.
The planet will complete its ascension to the fourth density, the vibrational density of love. During this ascension, there will be a three-way split for those souls inhabiting Earth. We (Lucifer) will create a new fourth density Earth, based on the negative service to self polarity. Those of the predominantly positive polarity (love and light) will ascend to a beautiful new fourth density Earth of positive service to others polarity. In contrast, the majority of humans on the earth will be transported to another third density planet (a kind of Earth replica), to continue working upon themselves and learning that life here is all about making choices.
We (Lucifer) have to be self-service centered to an extreme degree in order to fulfill our mission and become negatively harvested. It is our contract, which has always been to help you by providing the catalyst of free will and choice. If we do not make a high enough negative percentage, we will miss out and end up with the majority "lukewarm" percentage that have to go through another cycle in third density. By attaining a negative harvest, we can still "graduate" to fourth density, only it will be a negative polarity planet where we must work off all the negativity we have caused upon this planet. We will do this for a cycle in our new fourth density world and then be freed to once again be the glorious being of light that we truly are.
Remember that ultimately, this is a game that we are all playing here. In between incarnations, you know this very well. But the rules of the game ensure that when you incarnate, you must forget who you really are, so that you believe it is all "real" whilst you are playing the game of life. Forgetting is an essential prerequisite for you to make choices that help you to grow. Otherwise, the game would be too easy.
We are not born with the same veil of forgetfulness as you are. The veil is still in place, but would most accurately be described as being somewhat thinner. We see the invisible connections of life which are hidden from you, because we retain access to more than just the third density perspective. This is because you are working your way up, whereas we have chosen to step down in order to help you. We could not do this as successfully if we had to forget all that we have learned.
In order to be successful in the game, we must be as negatively polarized as possible – service to self in the extreme. Violence, war, hatred, greed, enslavement, genocide, torture, moral degradation, prostitution, drugs; all these things and more serve our purpose in the game. In all these negative things, we are providing you with tools. But you do not see it. It is not what we do, but how you react to it that is important. We give you the tools. You have the free will choice how you will use them. You have to learn to take responsibility.
There is only one of us here. Understand that and you will understand the game. As you do unto others, so you do to yourself. The difference between you and us, in the game, is that we know that we are "playing". The less you know about the game, the more "senseless" living becomes.
More on Our Family
The world of my own Family is very different from that of the lower, Earth-based bloodlines. Whilst our training growing up was very strict and disciplined, we were never abused in any way. We grew up with the bigger picture and didn't need any other motivation. The Earth bloodlines are not aware of the bigger picture. They themselves are not of our Lucifer group soul. As far as they are aware, they are out to rule the world, to control and enslave, and to create as much suffering and negativity as is possible. What they get out of the deal is world domination. You'd have to say with that in mind, they're doing a great job.
The Earth lines know that democracy is an illusion created to uphold your slavery. Behind the scenes there is only one party – our party. Whichever side "wins" the Family wins. Yet one of the things they don't know is that our agenda is ultimately for the highest good of all concerned in providing you with the catalyst. If they were aware of this, there is a risk that they would not do their jobs properly, and thus would miss out on joining us in our 95% negative harvest. They are aware of the need for them to attain 95% negativity to get out of third density, and that is all the motivation they need to help us achieve our ultimate aims.
Regarding this current harvest, what we require is for us personally to attain at least 95% negative polarity for ourselves, not for you. We need this in order to graduate to fourth density negative and clear our karmic record of all the negativity we have created on this planet before returning to our rightful place as sixth density guardians of our galaxy. If we do not make it, we will remain trapped in the third density cycle with all those between 50% and 94% negative (what I termed the lukewarm) and have to continue to provide negative polarity there. Harsh as it is, our only way out is to be as negative as possible here to graduate.
The External Reflects the Internal
In this grand game, the world is your mirror. It reflects back to you what you are putting out. If you see doom and gloom, then that is what you are projecting. If you do not like the reflection life is showing you, then change that which is causing it. Monitor your thoughts and pay attention to their quality, as they are more powerful than you may imagine. This is the difference between conscious and subconscious creation. What you think about is directly related to what life will show you. You get back what you send out.
You only forget who you are during incarnation. The object of the game is to wake up within the dream, and in effect, become a "lucid gamer", to remember who you really are during the game, and to then begin working upon the things you came here for. Your main purpose in the game is to work upon yourself. It is to grow, develop, and transform yourself into a more positive and loving being.
Use your negative emotions when they arise as the tools that they truly are. Train yourself to notice when negativity arises in you. When you catch yourself projecting a negative thought, remember that all thought is creative, and ask yourself if that is really what you want to create. It takes a while to become proficient, but do not give up. Whilst incarnating in the third density, negativity is still an important tool in your learning process. It teaches you "other than". Do you respond to negativity with more negativity? Or do you choose to see the negativity as the tool that it is, and recognize that it is offering you an opportunity?
You are not doomed, and your soul does not require salvation. No one's soul does. There is nothing to save it from. At the very worst, you will have to repeat as many third density cycles as is necessary in order for you to learn the things you need to learn. And there is no such thing as coincidence. Nothing happens by chance. Life is in a constant process of communication with us. Only mostly, people are too busy to notice.
There is a simple method to check upon your progress. Despite what appears to being going on in the world around you, how loving and harmonious are your personal relationships? How many arguments do you find yourself engaging in? The quality of your relationships is an excellent mirror from which to gauge the quality of your output, or in other words, that which you are creating. Remember that the world is your mirror. It casts back at you the reflection of that which you have projected into it.
There is a big difference between loving yourself and being selfish. When you truly understand what it is to know and love yourself, you cannot help but to love and serve others. If the One Infinite Creator is infinite and has created everything that is, then does not the Infinite Creator reside both within you and within all things? When you can see the divine spark of the Infinite Creator within yourself and within even those who would mean you harm, the strong grip of the illusion will begin to lose its power over you.
This Message as a Catalyst
No matter what ideologies separate us in this game, the message is all that matters. And the message is that in the love and the light of our Infinite Creator, we are all intimately interconnected in the One. We are brothers and sisters of the light. This message will reach all those it is meant to reach. It is yet another in a long line of catalysts that your Infinite Creator has provided you with down the course of history.
A catalyst is not meant to be believed. It is meant to present you with a challenge to that which you think you know about reality. Test these words deeply. Take them into your heart only if they feel right and truthful to you. And if they do, then arise and play the part for which you volunteered to be here now. We wish you all the very best in what remains of your journey here and sincerely hope you will use the catalyst we have offered to help you graduate with a glorious and positive great harvest.
Remember, always, that this is a beautiful game that we are playing here and co-creating together with our Infinite Creator. And that off stage (between lives), we are the very best of friends. No one really dies and no one really suffers, except in the game. The game is not reality. Reality is reality. And you have the power to express your reality within the game, once you have learnt how to do so.
RE: The Orion Material - rva_jeremy - 09-10-2015
I don't understand what people find so unacceptable about this stuff. I'm not saying I believe it, but it doesn't seem too out there. The specific reasons why the negative path does what it does don't really interest me anyway; it isn't really about them, like they say.
RE: The Orion Material - Aion - 09-11-2015
I don't see much different from the Hidden Hand interview.
RE: The Orion Material - APeacefulWarrior - 09-11-2015
The one thing that puzzles me about this is that he says his goal is a Negatively-polzarized Earth, yet he encourages the people reading to pursue a Positive path. Hmmm. Unless of course the basic idea is that he wants the positives off of Earth so that they won't disrupt the negative polarization of the planet.
Otherwise, this largely makes sense to me. Mostly, I'd advise people reading it to beware the word "slave" and keep in mind that it's not truly inevitable that the Earth becomes negative, as he presents the situation. That, I would presume, is the crux of the game they're playing: In this crucial moment, which way will the Earth polarize? After all, as Ra said, that one fine moment of universal positivity remains ever-possible.
And on a more personal note, I really dislike the word "slave" as it's used here (and in various similar theories) specifically because it's so loaded and manipulative. No one besides you truly controls who you associate with, or what you have for lunch, or what employment/service you seek, or who you love, or myriad other choices. Free Will must still be respected. The idea that we are in a gilded cage created by the "rulers" is something I doubt on its face, especially to call it slavery. But even if such a cage exists, its bars are so far apart that most of us will never even run into them.
You are only a slave if you choose to view yourself as such.
So yeah, I'd say this is probably 90%+ true (if a bit mythologized) but just with a couple twists to make it sound like negative polarization and "slavery" is fait accompli. We, as sub-creations of the planetary Logos, still have the ability to help determine the path of the planet. And in terms of the game of "slavery," the best move is probably just not to play. Live your own life, and (if it is your path) spread Positivity as widely as you can, and make your own choices in consultation with those who guide you. Don't let fears of shadowy manipulations distract you from that goal, or drag you down into their negative game of paranoia and self-induced servitude.
RE: The Orion Material - tamaryn - 09-11-2015
Really beautiful, thank you. Just a friendly reminder that the Lucifer group soul is incarnate and providing assistance for the future harvests.
RE: The Orion Material - cloud - 09-11-2015
(09-11-2015, 01:32 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: The one thing that puzzles me about this is that he says his goal is a Negatively-polzarized Earth, yet he encourages the people reading to pursue a Positive path. Hmmm. Unless of course the basic idea is that he wants the positives off of Earth so that they won't disrupt the negative polarization of the planet.
Otherwise, this largely makes sense to me. Mostly, I'd advise people reading it to beware the word "slave" and keep in mind that it's not truly inevitable that the Earth becomes negative, as he presents the situation. That, I would presume, is the crux of the game they're playing: In this crucial moment, which way will the Earth polarize? After all, as Ra said, that one fine moment of universal positivity remains ever-possible.
And on a more personal note, I really dislike the word "slave" as it's used here (and in various similar theories) specifically because it's so loaded and manipulative. No one besides you truly controls who you associate with, or what you have for lunch, or what employment/service you seek, or who you love, or myriad other choices. Free Will must still be respected. The idea that we are in a gilded cage created by the "rulers" is something I doubt on its face, especially to call it slavery. But even if such a cage exists, its bars are so far apart that most of us will never even run into them.
You are only a slave if you choose to view yourself as such.
So yeah, I'd say this is probably 90%+ true (if a bit mythologized) but just with a couple twists to make it sound like negative polarization and "slavery" is fait accompli. We, as sub-creations of the planetary Logos, still have the ability to help determine the path of the planet. And in terms of the game of "slavery," the best move is probably just not to play. Live your own life, and (if it is your path) spread Positivity as widely as you can, and make your own choices in consultation with those who guide you. Don't let fears of shadowy manipulations distract you from that goal, or drag you down into their negative game of paranoia and self-induced servitude.
I don't see where it mentions the intent on making Earth negatively oriented, could you outline it for me if I missed it?
RE: The Orion Material - Parsons - 09-11-2015
(09-11-2015, 12:59 AM)Aion Wrote: I don't see much different from the Hidden Hand interview.
I had this exact thought upon skimming through this text. I wonder if it was written by the same person or a fan of the hidden hand material? Perhaps it is simply a more palletable rewrite of HH. Either way, it seems to be riding the coat tails of the Ra Material at least to some degree.
I will give it a full read when I get a chance.
RE: The Orion Material - cloud - 09-11-2015
(09-11-2015, 03:30 AM)Parsons Wrote:(09-11-2015, 12:59 AM)Aion Wrote: I don't see much different from the Hidden Hand interview.
I had this exact thought upon skimming through this text. I wonder if it was written by the same person or a fan of the hidden hand material? Perhaps it is simply a more palletable rewrite of HH. Either way, it seems to be riding the coat tails of the Ra Material at least to some degree.
I will give it a full read when I get a chance.
I am unaware of the Hidden Hand writings, can you PM me a link to it?
Edit: Nevermind, I have found the Hidden Hand material.
Yes, there are similarities I would say.
RE: The Orion Material - APeacefulWarrior - 09-11-2015
Oops, I misread. He was talking about making TWO higher-level Earths, one pos and one neg. Well, nevermind that bit. The stuff about slavery still stands.
RE: The Orion Material - rva_jeremy - 09-11-2015
For me it comes down to this: how much change does this make in my daily life if it's true? If there's little, then it doesn't really impact the "me" I want to augment and develop. So the truth value is not a priority, and it's good catalyst to release the need for certainty and follow the faith-based path where can set aside a map, be it a good or bad one.
I feel the same way about some of the more transient information in the Law of One. It's not about believing or disbelieving it. It's about taking the currency of one's attention seriously enough to spend it well.
On matters like this I think the skeptical, rational mind really helps. It gives one a heuristic for determining how much attention a phenomenon is worth, without needing to fully invest in it to make the determination. I just can't get swept up in every new piece of information for too long these days. There's too much material inside to learn.
RE: The Orion Material - APeacefulWarrior - 09-11-2015
(09-11-2015, 10:34 AM)jeremy6d Wrote: For me it comes down to this: how much change does this make in my daily life if it's true? If there's little, then it doesn't really impact the "me" I want to augment and develop. So the truth value is not a priority, and it's good catalyst to release the need for certainty and follow the faith-based path where one releases the need for a good or bad map.
Exactly. When I run into one, I enjoy asking conspiracy theorists questions to the effect of "So how is your life improved by knowing that the Illuminati run everything?" Or even, "How have the Illuminati inconvenienced you personally today?" I rarely get coherent answers.
That's why I really object to concepts like "Earth is prison planet" or these various "slavery" theories. We AREN'T slaves in any practical sense. Sure, there are almost undoubtedly very rich elite who have more control over things than we'd like. But they don't literally run the world. At most, they have some input into very wide parameters on the macro scale, but the effect of that on the micro scale is pretty minimal. At the end of the day, there's gonna be shoe salesmen and farmers and bureaucrats and doctors and lawyers and programmers and plumbers, no matter who claims to be in charge. And those people are going to go about their days, doing basically the same thing either way, also regardless of such claims.
And -perhaps more importantly- even IF the Illuminati (or whoever) were running the governments, if every member of the Illuminati died tomorrow, that wouldn't stop people from needing quality footwear. We wouldn't even know they were gone.
What kind of "slavery" is that?
The world mostly runs itself. At the level of individual, the power flow is bottom-up rather than top-down. The necessities and "local karma" of day-to-day living determine the activities people engage in, not the actions of shadowy Europeans in mountain retreats. Anyone who claims we're slaves to them is basically just giving them free PR, and helping to increase the PERCEPTION that they run things, when they really don't.
(Which, I suspect, is why this Lucifer -if it's legit- leaned on the "slave" button multiple times. That was the core nugget of propaganda in an otherwise fairly honest piece, hoping we'd swallow it along with the rest without noticing.)
RE: The Orion Material - rva_jeremy - 09-11-2015
Robert Anton Wilson is my go-to source on conspiracy.
Quote:I suspect that not one “conspiracy” but dozens —or hundreds — of competing gangs of goons affect global and local processes. On any given day, one of these bands of Great Pirates might have more clout than the others, bit it’s seldom the same gang for two days, much less two years.
Now I've opened the floodgates, sorry.
Quote:Everybody who has ever worked for a corporation knows that corporations conspire all the time. Politicians conspire all the time, pot-dealers conspire not to get caught by the narcs, the world is full of conspiracies. Conspiracy is natural primate behavior.
Robert Anton Wilson is my spirit animal.
RE: The Orion Material - Matt1 - 09-11-2015
Had a quick look over it, looks like someone who read the Law of One then wrote up this. I would be impressed if it was released before the Law of One or at least pre internet.
RE: The Orion Material - BlatzAdict - 09-11-2015
this was debunked not to have been written by a cabal member but by a lightworker who was trying to get the truth out and mostly trying to get the Law of One out there. it worked. to some degree.
RE: The Orion Material - cloud - 09-11-2015
Maybe so. It does appear the second link is written from someone who has read the Ra material. Likewise, the website of the first source has Ra material within it's confines.
Something to think about:
Money is used by every country, every govermental system, regardless of orientation, currently.
Money is pepetual debt.
No matter what all debt is taxed.
No matter what all money is required to pay for living expenses.
No matter what to obtain money you need to work for it, in some way.
Money whether you like it or not is slavery, and every one whom uses money is in debt in one way or another.
I suggest finding ways to become self sufficient if you have not already invested in such.
I'm not big into conspiracy theories, I am just merely providing data to what I percieve to be alike minded invividuals and complexes.
Personally, I find this material to be intrigueging but hardly myself do I believe it is in totality communications from Lucifer. I do not have any other bias. I do not reject the possibility it could be somewhere closer to the truth than most concepts of the intent of Lucifer but I don't accept it either.
For now, I remain nuetral.
A note which is entirely irrelevent in every sense: It is my opinion there is a big surprise for us all in store VERY soon. I have penetrated most of it, and all I can say is have faith in yourselves over Ra, Lucifer, Figureheads like presidents, Figureheads in literature, religious manuscripts, everything. I am not saying don't trust them, all I am saying is always, have faith you incarnated into what life is best for you RIGHT now. Have faith the universe needed you to be you, at this moment, as alike everyone else in every other moment. Law of One.
Do NOT submit to fear, be courageous and follow your path with everlasting love.
We all have our parts to play and the world needs it now more than ever.
RE: The Orion Material - rva_jeremy - 09-12-2015
This is one of the best articles I've ever read on the whole notion of conspiracy theories -- so good that, when the site it was on disappeared, I made sure I looked it up on the Wayback Machine and pulled it onto my site.
http://www.socialmemorycomplex.net/features/in-defense-of-conspiracy-theories/
It's not long; here's a little taste:
Quote:Almost all that is dismissed as conspiracy theory today is really only good or poor attempts at writing history in our own time. But why is it that when we are talking of the histories of whole different places in whole different times, we easily accept that this or that group of powerful people made this or that important event happen, yet when it comes to histories of our own time and place, we automatically reject any suggestion of any group of people making any important event happen? Throughout history, every important event always has some group of people behind it, and these events always offer revealing meanings about the kind of societies in which they occur. It is the same today.
RE: The Orion Material - The_Tired_Philosopher - 09-12-2015
I love you all and this thread more than I should
Its...interesting. I have no opinion. I don't know.
RE: The Orion Material - rva_jeremy - 09-12-2015
Love you too, TTP. I feel the same: it's interesting, and to have a view on it one way or another seems almost to invite some sort of distortion that is unnecessary. That's why I'm surprised there's so many strong opinions on it (and that they all tend in a certain direction). Glad my reaction is not alone.
RE: The Orion Material - Aion - 09-12-2015
(09-11-2015, 01:25 PM)jeremy6d Wrote: Robert Anton Wilson is my go-to source on conspiracy.
Quote:I suspect that not one “conspiracy” but dozens —or hundreds — of competing gangs of goons affect global and local processes. On any given day, one of these bands of Great Pirates might have more clout than the others, bit it’s seldom the same gang for two days, much less two years.
Now I've opened the floodgates, sorry.
Quote:Everybody who has ever worked for a corporation knows that corporations conspire all the time. Politicians conspire all the time, pot-dealers conspire not to get caught by the narcs, the world is full of conspiracies. Conspiracy is natural primate behavior.
Robert Anton Wilson is my spirit animal.
I have a hard time getting behind the words of a pathological liar, myself.
RE: The Orion Material - rva_jeremy - 09-13-2015
Harsh, dude.
I hear your point of view, though don't you think some context would be helpful? We can take it to another thread if you like.
RE: The Orion Material - Spaced - 09-13-2015
This is essential a word for word copy of the Hidden Hand stuff. I wonder why it's been re-branded as Orion material, seeing as Orion isn't even mentioned once in it.
RE: The Orion Material - tamaryn - 09-13-2015
I had the sense from reading the first paragraph that the one writing this was indeed a Lightworker. I could feel the intention in the words.
That said the Lightworker - in attempt to do lightworker things created this conspiracy to spread more light...
Is it really any more than that?
RE: The Orion Material - BlatzAdict - 09-30-2015
now that i know yaweh is another word for tetragrammaton i see this as purposely laid to spread the Law of One, but ultimately there to mislead one to misundestand sacred science.
masaru emoto can teach someone more about the galaxy than hidden hand material.
RE: The Orion Material - Jocie - 11-12-2017
My first time posting:
The "slave" concept is the ideology promoted in the sin-sacrifice/repent and "commandments" realm "commanded" by that Yah.
To "sin" is to "miss the mark" and deviate from the "commands." According to the Tanakh, no one can save the soul of another. One is to have a one-on-one relationship with that Yah. It is hard to discern what comes from the Yah and what comes from man helping to create "laws" in order to keep the Yah as the god adopted by the so-called Chosen; wherein is it written the Yah got an inheritance and finally the "chosen" began to hone in on the one god that would become theirs, the Yah, that this is the "god" that would seek to enslave the world by his authority as "THE GOD OF ALL" to whom all nations/peoples would accept him as the God of the Universe and Creation. The idea behind the commands is to enslave the world.
Quoting Hidden Hand: "Yahweh, due to the fact that he had NOT (as was his right as Planetary Logos) (Or known as "Word" in the Bible) handed down his own Free Will to "know thyself" to those incarnating upon 'his' planet, was having very little evolutionary progress therein. So we (Lucifer) were sent to help. Once the order was given from the Council of Elders, we "Fell", or Descended back to a place where
we could, with hard work and focus, once again materialize a 3rd Density manifestation of ourself. Yahweh had agreed to our coming, in fact it was he who had initially asked the Council for a "Catalyst" of change to enter into his Creation, and share the knowledge and wisdom we had attained through our Ascensions. In the absence of Free Will upon the planet, there can be no Polarity, and therefore, nothing to 'choose' between."
In the Don and Carla Ra material, there is information distinguishing the Confederate Yah and the Orion Yah.
17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall?
Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms. This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Earth+History&su=Yahweh%E2%80%99s+Efforts#Yahweh%E2%80%99s+Efforts
24.6 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact the Confederation made?
Ra: I am Ra. In approximately three six zero zero [3,600] of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.
An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity, these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.
The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take what you would call stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.
In this complex the old Yahweh, now unnamed, but meaning “He comes,” began to send positively oriented philosophy. This was approximately, in your past, of two— we correct this instrument— three three zero zero [3,300] years. Thus, the intense portion of what has become known as Armageddon was joined.
http://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Yahweh
Negative Alien Religions
One of the largest lies promoted to divide our race is the War over Gods promoted through Religious Violence. The false archetypal story of a Crucified Christ figure is a mockery to further enslave humans into believing in a salvation model through a Crucified Christ. It represents the tortured human being, as we are all the Christ, and we have been crucified/implanted as our planet was invaded. These structures are called Crucifixion implants. These Crucifixion Implants are tangible control structures placed in the 7th dimensional logos, and therefore it is in our individual bodies, in the 7th dimensional chakra, its complex, meridians, and the entire left side (our female spirit) of our bodies. We are not aware of these implants until we open the 7th ChakraSeal and start connecting this part of our 7th layer Lightbody to our personal consciousness field. This is a direct result of the Negative Aliens and the NAA strategy for enslavement through Mind Control.
Reversal Father = Luciferian
The Reversal Father is the anti-life male collective consciousness of the Luciferians, whose accumulated collective consciousness is harvested by the NAA to gain energetic power from the earth grid and from humanity, by hijacking and raping the male and Father principle energies. The interdimensional alien Annunaki Gods, Enki, Enlil, Thoth, and Yahweh and Jehovah from Saturn, have primarily used the Reversal Father principle of Luciferianism to establish the world religions on the earth, using patriarchal domination rhetoric to serve the false light, and the Bi-Wave Consciousness, so they could gain full control over humans and exert themselves as the Gods.
Crucifixion Implants
When our Planetary Logos was invaded and corrupted by the Reptilian Controllers (Archons) of the NAA, the planet and our race were impacted dramatically. (See Ages of Humanity and Galactic Wars)
This meant humanity was no longer free to create and evolve as per the original Blueprint of our intended creation, and we had no memory of what had happened to us. We were recycled through continual reincarnation on the Astral Plane with no memory of the past lives, who we really are, where we are going, or what our real relationship is to God and what humanities “purpose” actually is. Over time most of us lost our feeling connection to our Soul and we became numb to the pain in order to survive in anti-human based structures. What has happened to our planet is not human, it is “alien” to the true nature of humanity. This was the historical result of the NAA Invasion and their Mind Control strategies, such as Psycho-Spiritual Warfare technology to enslave humanity by inserting into the Planetary Logos many variations of Alien Implants and Holographic Inserts.
The pain upon the planet was immense, as the deepest trauma of suffering is when a being is fully disconnected from the Soul/Source of Creation. Our planetary logos was invaded with multiple mutations of alien Mind Control programming while siphoning our life force to other planets that serve alien agendas. One of the largest lies promoted to divide our race is the War over False Gods. The false archetypal story of a Crucified Christ figure is a mockery to further enslave humans into believing in a salvation model through a Crucified Christ. It represents the tortured human being, as we are all the Christ, and we have been crucified/implanted as our planet was invaded. These structures are called Crucifixion implants. These Crucifixion implants are tangible control structures placed in the 7th dimensional logos, and therefore it is in our individual bodies, in the 7th Chakra, its complex, meridians, and the entire left side (our female spirit) of our bodies. We are not aware of these implants until we open the 7th Seal and start connecting this part of our 7th layer light body to our personal consciousness field.The Wounds of Christ are karmic blood miasms in the planetary body and human bodies manifested into genetic distortions as a result of embedded crucifixion inserts that were placed in the planetary brain and collective human race body. These Holographic Inserts misdirected and stole the planetary life force energy and body parts belonging to our spirit. The false crucifixion inserts are how our planetary collective mind was invaded to reflect itself with the salvation model of a crucified deity, which was designed to spread the NAA's violent religions on the earth. Crucifixion represents the consciousness enslavement of humanity to repeatedly recycle their Souls from karmically bound physical bodies and distorted blood records, as a result of the Wounds of Christ. The crucified group Consciousness bodies were used to feed the artificial creations or Phantom Matrix spaces made by Controllers to serve their enslavement agenda on the earth. This is surfacing now to be recoded into alignment with the higher structure of Universal Laws serving the God source divine purpose, and take account of the abuses and crimes committed from their misuse within the Controller and NAA groups that have instigated and wielded religious wars and stealing consciousness power from others in the past Dark Age. This time begins a phase of Restoration which is about returning and reclaiming the Christos-Sophiaianic Intelligence to the earth, and returning the spiritual bodies back to the planet and the rightful owner of which it belongs to.RRO[2]
Redemptive Vehicle Contracts
The redemptive vehicle contract is also the support to alchemize the energetic cause and effect (karma) results from of the accumulated belief systems on this planet that a human being, such as Jesus the Christ, was required to be killed for the salvation for humanity. The same parallel energetic result stems from all human belief systems that include a sacrifice to God must be made to ensure salvation. This false belief system is a deviant subset development program created by the core "Christ Crucifixion Insert" which was a distorted belief system propagated by an energetic holographic insert (mind programming) placed into the human being's collective mind matrix. This manipulated the human being to believe (subconsciously and consciously) that it was necessary to kill each other in the name of God for our personal salvation. The human beings collective mind is a part of the planetary light body, the planetary mind matrix is also called the Logos and exists at the 7th dimensional level of the planet field. This is the field of the Violet Ray Flame and comprises the planet's magnetosphere. (Please refer to my last articles for more information on the planetary Crucifixion insert) This is why this last year and ongoing the7th plane, the Violet Ray, have been critical missions of planetary grid healing repair work.
Because so many humans on this planet have belief system based on a "Cross/Crucifixion" theology based upon the Negative Alien Religions, the energetic cause and effect was disastrous to the expansion of humanities consciousness to achieve liberation, sovereignty and Godhood in the Ascension cycles. Certain beings agreed to incarnate (The Reedemers) and alchemically transform the energetic manifestations, the implants and the holographic architecture of this distorted belief pattern that sacrifice was necessary to appease God. This required much soul retrieval and soul healing work on a planetary scale. These suffering souls, having being killed over the wars over God, or made as a blood sacrifice, were the energetic power source harnessed to retain the crucifixion insert and its belief systems architecture. One of the main systems of planetary control is the religious fundamental Christian programming. It was these programs that were manipulated to condition the planetary field and the collective human mind into believing these as Truths and revelations from God. These were the mind control manipulations to worship a False God, and the energetic results were vampiric to the group human divine soul.
http://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Law_of_One
(09-11-2015, 03:20 AM)cloud Wrote:(09-11-2015, 01:32 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: The one thing that puzzles me about this is that he says his goal is a Negatively-polzarized Earth, yet he encourages the people reading to pursue a Positive path. Hmmm. Unless of course the basic idea is that he wants the positives off of Earth so that they won't disrupt the negative polarization of the planet.
Otherwise, this largely makes sense to me. Mostly, I'd advise people reading it to beware the word "slave" and keep in mind that it's not truly inevitable that the Earth becomes negative, as he presents the situation. That, I would presume, is the crux of the game they're playing: In this crucial moment, which way will the Earth polarize? After all, as Ra said, that one fine moment of universal positivity remains ever-possible.
And on a more personal note, I really dislike the word "slave" as it's used here (and in various similar theories) specifically because it's so loaded and manipulative. No one besides you truly controls who you associate with, or what you have for lunch, or what employment/service you seek, or who you love, or myriad other choices. Free Will must still be respected. The idea that we are in a gilded cage created by the "rulers" is something I doubt on its face, especially to call it slavery. But even if such a cage exists, its bars are so far apart that most of us will never even run into them.
You are only a slave if you choose to view yourself as such.
So yeah, I'd say this is probably 90%+ true (if a bit mythologized) but just with a couple twists to make it sound like negative polarization and "slavery" is fait accompli. We, as sub-creations of the planetary Logos, still have the ability to help determine the path of the planet. And in terms of the game of "slavery," the best move is probably just not to play. Live your own life, and (if it is your path) spread Positivity as widely as you can, and make your own choices in consultation with those who guide you. Don't let fears of shadowy manipulations distract you from that goal, or drag you down into their negative game of paranoia and self-induced servitude.
I don't see where it mentions the intent on making Earth negatively oriented, could you outline it for me if I missed it?
RE: The Orion Material - unity100 - 11-13-2017
I give zero credence to this Hidden Hand persona.
It seems to be a setup to profit using popularity of Ra Material. And yes, it is absurdly far out.
You can find similar made-up stuff that has been running for a looooong time and may give a feeling of credibility to the reader at the first sight. One of them is Zeta Talk. Hidden Hand seems to be that kind of setup.
RE: The Orion Material - Jocie - 11-13-2017
Thank you. My two study friends and myself were wondering about the credibility of Hidden Hand. I appreciate the mention of Zeta Talk.
(11-13-2017, 07:41 PM)unity100 Wrote: I give zero credence to this Hidden Hand persona.
It seems to be a setup to profit using popularity of Ra Material. And yes, it is absurdly far out.
You can find similar made-up stuff that has been running for a looooong time and may give a feeling of credibility to the reader at the first sight. One of them is Zeta Talk. Hidden Hand seems to be that kind of setup.
RE: The Orion Material - sequoyah - 11-14-2017
It was this message from hidden hand that led many to the Ra material
if not for this, I may not have ever made my best discovery
I believe it to be geniune
RE: The Orion Material - Jocie - 11-14-2017
Thank you, Sequoyah, for your response too. My mind never shuts down in my searches for understandings.
"Sequoyah" - looked up that meaning! And today I learned something new!
(11-14-2017, 01:34 AM)sequoyah Wrote: It was this message from hidden hand that led many to the Ra material
if not for this, I may not have ever made my best discovery
I believe it to be geniune
RE: The Orion Material - Highrculling - 11-20-2017
Quote/The idea that a worldwide conspiracy exists that is both diabolical and invincible is an idea that only self-servers would cook up and only service-to-self planets have ever managed to manifest. This is one of their favorite ploys. They have used it on other planets throughout their history, and now they are using it on you. Fortunately, it rarely works because self-servers lack the organization—not to mention the numbers—to imprison races with these ideas. This plot has only been successful on service-to-self planets, not on ones that have as many servers as yours. For as difficult and ugly as life gets on your planet, Earth is a heaven compared to the hell of a service-to-self planet. /Unquote
The option to choose and to make decisions is available to everyone, this much I know. And this is more then enough.
RE: The Orion Material - Dante776 - 11-20-2017
(09-11-2015, 01:58 PM)Matt1 Wrote: Had a quick look over it, looks like someone who read the Law of One then wrote up this...
Yeah, Ra. Come on wake up people!