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Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-17-2014 I am a mystic. A bodhisattva. A white magician. I provide you with this information as a humble messenger. I consider myself proficient in the realms of Mysticism, Esotericism, Occultism, and a plethora of ancient philosophies. I resonate deeply with the Law of One and with our Creator. The Law of One is the Perennial Philosophy, however I do not abandon the ancient wisdom and the inner meaning of mainstream and long forgotten mystery religions. There is truth in them, one must simply find it. Outside of the Law of One, I find the philosophy of Plotinus and his transcendent "One" to be most in alignment with the true nature of being to those open to it. I pose this revelation to you... Ra speaks of the third density harvest in two ways... He speaks of a potential transitory period of between 100-700 years to fourth density understanding, as he cannot discern this time period with any degree of certainty. However, he also states that we are already within fourth density vibration, and speaks of an "inconvenience" that will continue for a period of approximately 30 years (from the early 1980's). 6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to progression of the cycle at this time? Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience. 6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years? Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty [30], of your years. 6.18 Questioner: After this thirty-year period I am assuming we will be a fourth-dimension or fourth-density planet. Is this correct? Ra: I am Ra. This is so. Ra also states ... "The lessons of third density are predestined by the very nature of the vibratory rates experienced during this particular density and by the nature of the quantum jump to the vibratory experiences of fourth density." In my humble opinion, in actuality Ra is saying there will be a quantum leap within our physical reality and this is the purported "end times" spoken about in many religions. My higher self is telling me this quantum jump is directly related to the spiritual "Photon Belt" orbiting the Pleiades. If you're not familiar with astrology, Orion is infamous for pursuing the Pleiades through the night sky. Does Orion sound familiar? The 100-700 year transition period is the period following the quantum jump into fourth density. It is the adjustment period into our new way of life, but this new way of life will occur instantaneously following a period of Great Tribulation which will test humanity. "The striking of the clock upon the hour". This will happen in the upcoming years and I truly do not like to place dates on anything, but we will be fourth density entities by the end of 2020. This is based on divine intellect and astrology that I cannot easily explain, however, there is a Great conjunction of Saturn, Jupiter, the Moon and the planets that will occur in late December 2020. One can go to www.theplanetstoday.com to view planetary arrangements. Use Geocentric. The true end date of the Mayan Calendar was 12/16/13, or 13/13/13, there is much information on this. I never believed any of that "nonsense" and have never been anything even close to religious. The night prior, I was certain the world was going to end and information was SHOOTING through my consciousness. I woke up and found the Law of One. As much as I am trying to establish credibility among you, this is not about me. It is about us. Truly I tell you, the kingdom of God is within you. This date was the start of the prophesied seven year tribulation period. The "End Times". The first half of which is known as the "Beginning of Sorrows", the second half being "The Great Tribulation". This was the striking of the clock upon the hour. The end of a cycle. The start of a countdown. The final seven years. The final sub-octave, whereby after seven notes on the musical scale, the eighth note begins a new octave. Have faith. This video conveys some of the astronomical occurrences that took place on this day ... 13-13-13 Golden Gate - Initiation Into The Mysteries Of Life - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkfF_5fFf8 What is the one thing that will a cause a systematic collapse of civilization no matter where you live? A global financial crisis. When this happens, know the time is nigh and humanity has approximately three and a half years to repent, change, forgive, and polarize their consciousness in the vibration of love until the shift. There is an elite group of people with the money and the power to cause depressions. They will crash the economy and times will be very difficult as the elite will rule in an attempt to set up their long awaited "World Government" and "New World Order" during this time. This will be the time for "lightworkers" to spread fourth density love and understanding, as the common people will not be going to work every day since money will be worthless, and will finally have the time to listen and seek the Law of One. Imagine 7+ billion people in hunger with no system of purchasing food. Utter chaos will ensue and love will be the solution, sharing selflessly and helping one another. Light will form the darkness. Ra explains this... Ra: I am Ra. You will find a sharp increase in the number of people, as you call mind/body/spirit complexes, whose vibrational potentials include the potential for fourth-vibrational distortions. There will also be a sharp increase in the short run of negatively oriented or polarized mind/body/spirit complexes and social complexes, due to the polarizing conditions of the sharp delineation between fourth-density characteristics and third-density self-service orientation. This will cause your planetary sphere to have some ruptures in its outer garment while making itself appropriately magnetized for fourth density. This is the planetary adjustment. I feel the instantaneous shift and the 100-700 year post adjustment period is further supported as Ra states: Ra: You must see the Earth, as you call it, as being seven Earths. There is red, orange, yellow, and there will soon be a completed green color vibratory locus for fourth-density entities which they will call Earth. During the fourth-density experience, due to the lack of development of fourth-density entities, the third-density planetary sphere is not useful for habitation since the early fourth-density entity will not know precisely how to maintain the illusion that fourth density cannot be seen or determined from any instrumentation available to any third density. Thus in fourth density the red, orange, and green energy nexi of your planet will be activated while the yellow is in potentiation along with the blue and the indigo. The Pleiades, "The Seven Sisters", are the most emphasized star constellation throughout ancient civilization and human history. Orion is known for pursuing "The Seven Sisters" through the night sky. I highlight this again, does Orion sound familiar? If anyone is familiar with the Book of Revelation, Jesus Christ walks among seven lampstands (the seven chakras) and he holds seven stars (The Pleiades). The only one worthy of opening the Seven Seals (the seven chakras) is the Lamb. I implore you to look up the words I am saying. There is much wisdom to be gained. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_in_folklore_and_literature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John's_vision_of_the_Son_of_Man http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades_(Greek_mythology) All public information thou receiveth is manipulated by those in power. Understand that all the major media and news you hear is under the control of a central source. There are those controlling the information you get to hear, keeping the masses in state of fear, confusion, greed, and unworthiness. The politicians you see on television are not those in power. They are only puppeteers for those behind the scenes. The media alters your perception. It does not lie to you, but it directs your thought in the direction it wants you to go. The world is very much in under the influence of an adept black magician. The Wicked Priest. The Man of the Lie. The Ipsissimus. Ra: I am Ra. The ipsissimus is one who has mastered the Tree of Life and has used this mastery for negative polarization. There is a reason astrology is so actively suppressed in our civilization. Science condemns it for lack of "scientific evidence", foolishly ignoring the previous 10,000 years of our ancestors devotion to it. They have been led astray. They are ignorant of the power of philosophy, trapping themselves in a left minded and earthly mechanical way of thought. Why do you think there are no longer any astronomical clocks in existence? A small group of people figured out the cycles of the stars a long time ago, and does not want anyone else to know about it. The dark ones do not want you to contemplate the stars. They would much prefer you be an obedient worker and question nothing. If you wish to know the mindset of the oppressors, you may click below. I do not share this to spread fear or hate, but simply in hopes that you will understand the service-to-self mentality and why things are the way they are. This is nothing against Judaism or the Jewish people. There is much truth in Judaism and in Kabbalah, but some choose to use that power for negative polarization. This is not representative of the Jewish people, but an inner circle of very controlling, narcissistic, sophisticated service-to-self entities. Essentially, they are fake Jews manipulating the whole world. Do not hate them. Pity them. Love them. http://iamthewitness.com/Protocols-of-Zion.htm "I know about your suffering and your poverty - but you are rich! I know the blasphemy of those opposing you. Those that say they are Jews, but they are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." - Book of Revelation "I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars - I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you." - Book of Revelation "Satan deceiveth the whole world" Questioner: In our culture there is a great saying that he (Jesus) will return. Can you tell me if this is planned? Ra: I am Ra. I will attempt to sort out this question. It is difficult. This entity became aware that it was not an entity of itself but operated as a messenger of the One Creator whom this entity saw as love. This entity was aware that this cycle was in its last portion and spoke to the effect that those of its consciousness would return at the harvest. The Book of Revelation is a short, simply amazing book written in esoteric and hidden metaphors thousands of years ago in anticipation of the events that are about to take place in the world. It is a book meant to guide the prophets and the workers of light in these end times. It can only be understood by the archetypal mind, the mind which has penetrated intelligent infinity, the mind in alignment with Christ Consciousness and completely at One with our Creator. The Harvest is Now. Love and Light! In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet, we shall be changed. Note: Attached a file for any lovers of wisdom Also... I do not encourage drug use, but there is a substance endogenous to your body known as DMT, dimethyltryptamine, that allows you to go to the higher (in actuality, the inner) planes of existence. It is the most powerful and actively suppressed substance in the world. Again - It is naturally found in all life. It is the substance that is released from your body when you are born, during REM sleep, and also just prior to death. Joe Rogan sums it up very well for those interested in hearing more about this mystical experience. It lasts about 10 minutes, and allows direct contact with the inner planes. It is a naturally occurring human neurotransmitter that allows one to directly experience, Intelligent Infinity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6RBOIgtzEE RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Unbound - 11-17-2014 Ah-yup. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - AnthroHeart - 11-17-2014 DMT gave me schizophrenia. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - isis - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 03:45 AM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote: Also... I do not encourage drug use, but there is a substance endogenous to your body known as DMT, dimethyltryptamine, that allows you to go to the higher (in actuality, the inner) planes of existence. It is the most powerful and actively suppressed substance in the world. Again - It is naturally found in all life. It is the substance that is released from your body when you are born, during REM sleep, and also just prior to death. Joe Rogan sums it up very well for those interested in hearing more about this mystical experience. It lasts about 10 minutes, and allows direct contact with the higher densities. It is a naturally occurring human neurotransmitter that allows one to directly experience, Intelligent Infinity. have u done it? are u graham hancock? RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - michael430 - 11-17-2014 [deleted] RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Unbound - 11-17-2014 "Direct contact with higher densities" Lol, what a load of bull, maybe if you manage the breakthrough but as far as I understand that is quite rare. Otherwise, it's just another distorted reality. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 05:08 PM)isis Wrote:(11-17-2014, 03:45 AM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote: Also... I do not encourage drug use, but there is a substance endogenous to your body known as DMT, dimethyltryptamine, that allows you to go to the higher (in actuality, the inner) planes of existence. It is the most powerful and actively suppressed substance in the world. Again - It is naturally found in all life. It is the substance that is released from your body when you are born, during REM sleep, and also just prior to death. Joe Rogan sums it up very well for those interested in hearing more about this mystical experience. It lasts about 10 minutes, and allows direct contact with the higher densities. It is a naturally occurring human neurotransmitter that allows one to directly experience, Intelligent Infinity. Indeed. It is an immensely powerful and culture shattering experience. It is a doorway to the soul providing the answers to the divine mysteries of existence. One acquries a thousands years experience in about 5 minutes. "Under every sleeping eyelid and through all of existence there flows an incredible active intelligence of awe inspiring wonder, sacredness and affection for humanity and all sentient beings." (11-17-2014, 05:22 PM)Unbound Wrote: "Direct contact with higher densities" Lol, what a load of bull, maybe if you manage the breakthrough but as far as I understand that is quite rare. Otherwise, it's just another distorted reality. The only way to know something is to experience it yourself. It's indescribable. (11-17-2014, 05:17 PM)michael430 Wrote: Man I want some dmt. Looks so complicated to make - I would probably blow up my house. It looks complicated, but I assure you it's extremely simple. No more complicated than a third grade science project. However, one must be careful in using the correct products in extraction. I admit though, it could be intimidating at first approach. https://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa_chemistry1.shtml RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Unbound - 11-17-2014 Then perhaps you are one of the few who has made the breakthrough. I have tried DMT, and I have many friends who have tried it and some who are very passionate about it but I wouldn't in any regard say it is by definition a "doorway to the soul" but rather some people are with the affinity for it that it works in harmony in that way. For others, it is nothing of the sort. It is all well and good to tout the benefits of your own experience, but it makes little sense to me to then assume that that is going to be a consistent experience for all others. I am very, very wary of any "short-cuts" to experience, having taken quite a few myself and finding I have not actually gotten all that much farther ahead. Also, making a key point here that any sort of ingested/smoked DMT is NOT the same as the actual release of the chemical in the brain, completely different phenomenon. I have just seen friends who have completely deranged and confused their minds in the pursuit of "knowledge" and wisdom from psychedelic substances and so any time I see anyone willy-nilly suggesting that they are awesome for everyone, I have to say my thoughts on the matter. The biggest lesson I ever learned on psychedelics is that they are completely and utterly unnecessary. I am happy for you that you have found benefit in your experiences as well, of course. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 05:34 PM)Unbound Wrote: Then perhaps you are one of the few who has made the breakthrough. I have tried DMT, and I have many friends who have tried it and some who are very passionate about it but I wouldn't in any regard say it is by definition a "doorway to the soul" but rather some people are with the affinity for it that it works in harmony in that way. For others, it is nothing of the sort. I agree with you. I do not believe it is a shortcut to enlightenment. I do believe, however, that it purges one of negative energy. It allows one to know that everything is going to be alright, which you do not need psychedelics for. In my opinion, people that take it constantly and become reliant on it are missing the point and attempting to escape this reality, rather than using the experience to enhance their life and the life of others. When those entities are selflessly providing you with wisdom and knowledge, one should utilize that experience and metaphorically, "Bring Heaven down to Earth". Being of service to others, rather than living their life in another reality. I agree with basically everything you said. It is not necessary, nothing is necessary. But it damn sure is cleansing and purifies the system, especially for those down on life or overly grounded in the material world. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Unbound - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 05:50 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote:(11-17-2014, 05:34 PM)Unbound Wrote: Then perhaps you are one of the few who has made the breakthrough. I have tried DMT, and I have many friends who have tried it and some who are very passionate about it but I wouldn't in any regard say it is by definition a "doorway to the soul" but rather some people are with the affinity for it that it works in harmony in that way. For others, it is nothing of the sort. Aha I think it is clear then that you have made the breakthrough and understand the chemical, or rather have an affinity for the intelligence behind it. For me, I get what you mean by the "cleanse" but something in my consciousness rejected it as artificial, so it didn't really quite "stick" to me. Not my cup of tea, but that doesn't mean I don't have my own tea preferences aha RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 05:53 PM)Unbound Wrote:(11-17-2014, 05:50 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote:(11-17-2014, 05:34 PM)Unbound Wrote: Then perhaps you are one of the few who has made the breakthrough. I have tried DMT, and I have many friends who have tried it and some who are very passionate about it but I wouldn't in any regard say it is by definition a "doorway to the soul" but rather some people are with the affinity for it that it works in harmony in that way. For others, it is nothing of the sort. I appreciate the feedback! I do not advocate drugs. The reason it resonates with me so deeply is because I do not see it as artificial. I see it as the one and only thing that is pure. In my opinion, everything else we consume is tainted with chemicals that are not found naturally within our body. Even our water is fluoridated. For me it represents purity. I personally do not agree with vaccinations or anything that pharmaceutical companies advocate. I do not trust them and I do not believe anything they do is truly for the benefit of others. I believe the owners of those large pharmaceutical companies do not have your best interest in mind, but their own interest. I see them as extremely negatively oriented companies under the disguise as positivity. It's a shame because nurses and doctors actually want to help others, but I see them as being somewhat deceived. I see this with our armed forces as well. The people joining have good intentions, but they know not what they do. I truly believe the things Ra says about cancer as well and the mental imbalances that cause it. I know it sounds crazy but I believe DMT can actually cure or at minimum effectively treat cancer. There is much information about Ayahuasca (of which DMT is the active ingredient) being used for effective cancer treatment. For me, DMT is truth. Conqueror of deception and alleviator of falsehood. Purity in an impure world. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - AnthroHeart - 11-17-2014 I think Ayahuasca would be more natural than smoking DMT. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 07:11 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I think Ayahuasca would be more natural than smoking DMT. I agree. Smoking DMT literally blasts you into another realm and things happen so fast that it's difficult to absorb meaning from the experience. Ayahuasca is a much more gradual build up, lasts substantially longer, and one can take away more from the experience. It is, however, very dangerous to make yourself due to the use of MAOIs. If one is not experienced in the process, one may be better off traveling to South America to a retreat for such an experience. Ibogaine is also very self-introspective and purifying but extremely rare. If one has the ability to take such a trip, it would be well worth it! RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Quan - 11-17-2014 With your comments on Harvest, in particular the quotes.. There was much discusion on these particular in 2011, (i was new to forum but not a member a mystery reader so to speak and enjoyed many of these talks) gradual vs instant. 2012 they climaxed. However it still is interesting to hear on thoughts views on what lies now and beyond thank you for sharing..Im interested to have a read particular Planets Today link.. Duality is in everything, as Ra put it in both those seeming opposing quotes but speaking on the beyond\cause itself\innself\with form , without form all omnipresent or one infinite one creator which is ... how can words describe or the little dots i used (11-17-2014, 07:34 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote:(11-17-2014, 07:11 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I think Ayahuasca would be more natural than smoking DMT. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Billy - 11-17-2014 If only this were true. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 08:46 PM)Folk-love Wrote: If only this were true. Faith. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - isis - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 08:51 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote:hope(11-17-2014, 08:46 PM)Folk-love Wrote: If only this were true. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-17-2014 (11-17-2014, 08:45 PM).T. Wrote: With your comments on Harvest, in particular the quotes.. There was much discusion on these particular in 2011, (i was new to forum but not a member a mystery reader so to speak and enjoyed many of these talks) gradual vs instant. 2012 they climaxed. However it still is interesting to hear on thoughts views on what lies now and beyond thank you for sharing..Im interested to have a read particular Planets Today link.. Duality is in everything, as Ra put it in both those seeming opposing quotes but speaking on the beyond\cause itself\innself\with form , without form all omnipresent or one infinite one creator which is ... how can words describe or the little dots i used I've added this to my original post as well, but I feel the instantaneous shift and the 100-700 year post adjustment period is further supported as Ra states: Ra: You must see the Earth, as you call it, as being seven Earths. There is red, orange, yellow, and there will soon be a completed green color vibratory locus for fourth-density entities which they will call Earth. During the fourth-density experience, due to the lack of development of fourth-density entities, the third-density planetary sphere is not useful for habitation since the early fourth-density entity will not know precisely how to maintain the illusion that fourth density cannot be seen or determined from any instrumentation available to any third density. Thus in fourth density the red, orange, and green energy nexi of your planet will be activated while the yellow is in potentiation along with the blue and the indigo. And while duality is in all things, polarity is an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. The universe itself is mental. Our mind is part of larger mind, which is part of a larger mind, which is part of a larger mind and so it goes for eternity. "The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour." Have Faith. Love and Light! RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Quan - 11-17-2014 Thank you also for all the work you put into the attachment document too. I was just looking through it. I like the synchronicity for me, the Albert Einstein quotes in their and thread i posted on him today http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10081 (11-17-2014, 09:45 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote:(11-17-2014, 08:45 PM).T. Wrote: With your comments on Harvest, in particular the quotes.. There was much discusion on these particular in 2011, (i was new to forum but not a member a mystery reader so to speak and enjoyed many of these talks) gradual vs instant. 2012 they climaxed. However it still is interesting to hear on thoughts views on what lies now and beyond thank you for sharing..Im interested to have a read particular Planets Today link.. Duality is in everything, as Ra put it in both those seeming opposing quotes but speaking on the beyond\cause itself\innself\with form , without form all omnipresent or one infinite one creator which is ... how can words describe or the little dots i used RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Guardian - 11-18-2014 Doing dmt leaves you susceptible to psychic attack unless you are in the presence of a white magician or shaman. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Billy - 11-18-2014 (11-17-2014, 08:51 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote:I don't know if its particularly wise to have faith in dates. I wish it were true that 4th density earth were as near as you say but I'm not convinced. We shall see I guess.(11-17-2014, 08:46 PM)Folk-love Wrote: If only this were true. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-18-2014 (11-18-2014, 12:57 AM)Folk-love Wrote:(11-17-2014, 08:51 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote:I don't know if its particularly wise to have faith in dates. I wish it were true that 4th density earth were as near as you say but I'm not convinced. We shall see I guess.(11-17-2014, 08:46 PM)Folk-love Wrote: If only this were true. I agree. I feel once someone places dates on things, they have less meaning, especially because the dates I speak of are based on personal experience. I would love others to "feel the pull of the magnet", but I understand the skepticism. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Unbound - 11-18-2014 (11-17-2014, 07:06 PM)Mystical Wisdom Wrote: I appreciate the feedback! I do not advocate drugs. The reason it resonates with me so deeply is because I do not see it as artificial. I see it as the one and only thing that is pure. In my opinion, everything else we consume is tainted with chemicals that are not found naturally within our body. Even our water is fluoridated. For me it represents purity. Everyone finds their own truth somewhere! Aha RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Mystical Wisdom - 11-19-2014 (11-17-2014, 11:01 PM).T. Wrote: Thank you also for all the work you put into the attachment document too. I was just looking through it. Your gratitude is greatly appreciated. Thank you! RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Blimp - 12-06-2014 He is right on most points. The Illuminati themselves are the reason I found this website as they suggested it in an interview. (They are required to dispense information on certain times by The Creator). However, in ancient times, humanity's soul group or "YahWeh" kept humanity prisoner. It was a perfect paradise yes, but it did not have free will. So it goes in the story of the serpent enticing humanity with the knowledge of good and evil. (Lucifer, the people controlling you now). Humanity's god became jealous, as parts of him chose free will instead of his paradise. He trapped all in the planes of this reality, also, trapping Lucifer. (The fallen angel ). Trapping them in the cycle till the next harvest, which was now. This created the karma for humanity to be controlled. Lucifer, to retain the balance thus had to restore karma in a negative fashion. The negative polarity requires 95% of negativity and selfishness, allowing them to go to the negative polarity of 4th Density. They believe or "know" EXCACTLY the same details Ra is saying, you are thinking in polarized ways. Without the catalyst, would humans be as conscious as they are becoming now? Without being forced out of your comfort zone, if everything was already perfect, would you be able to "know thyself"? Would you be able to know what love actually is? You do not realize the sacrifice they made and are making for you. Doing something that severely hurts the spirit in order to be a catalyst for you. You can not die, who cares about that? In the big scheme, to the creator, to Lucifer, to the federation that agreed to this, the price is worth it tenfold. "Satan" is actually now once again the bright star that soul group once was. Calm down, what good is it focusing on all the negative when you already know they are not you? Do not waste time that could be spent expressing who YOU are. Do not listen to Ra if you feel it is wrong, do not listen to ME if you feel it is not right. That's the whole point of it, it's designed to make you think. Because who can you trust? Who can you rely on? Where is the supreme intelligence with eternal wisdom that has our true interest at heart? Well... get up, go to your bathroom, look in the mirror, and start with a simple "hello". RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Billy - 12-06-2014 I often question the effectivess of catalyst on earth. If only a small portion of the population are going to graduate, isn't it logical to assume that the catalyst offered hasn't been an effective way of polarising? It almost seems as though all this suffering that humanity has endured has been for nothing in a sense. I thought that the whole point of a dense illusion was for the sake of quick and efficient polarisation, but it seems the exact opposite has happened. The harvest was much greater on Ra's Venus where the illusion was less dense and more harmonious. Our illusion seems unnecessarily harsh with the above taken into consideration. Anyone have a different and perhaps more hopeful perspective then the one above? RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Blimp - 12-06-2014 Dualistic thinking, there is no black and white. The ones that don't graduate will simply continue learning, the negatives will work off karma, the positives will learn higher vibration. So when you don't "graduate" all that is learned is in vain? The people who suffered have soften. Go into the world and look around you! The person you buy groceries from, your neighbor, look around! Was it all for nothing? Do you not see the compassion that is there, out in the REAL world? Not the angry conspiracy theorists purely focusing on the negative. All experience has merit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMPXlyliLYM Maybe this will enlighten you further. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - anagogy - 12-06-2014 (12-06-2014, 04:52 AM)Folk-love Wrote: I often question the effectivess of catalyst on earth. If only a small portion of the population are going to graduate, isn't it logical to assume that the catalyst offered hasn't been an effective way of polarising? It almost seems as though all this suffering that humanity has endured has been for nothing in a sense. I thought that the whole point of a dense illusion was for the sake of quick and efficient polarisation, but it seems the exact opposite has happened. The harvest was much greater on Ra's Venus where the illusion was less dense and more harmonious. Our illusion seems unnecessarily harsh with the above taken into consideration. Anyone have a different and perhaps more hopeful perspective then the one above? Well, I can't say I entirely disagree with you. As this is the last major cycle of 3rd density upon this planet (for at least a good many millennia), the catalyst hasn't exactly culminated in the complete harvest of this planet. The massive infusion of wanderers has increased the amount that will be harvested significantly (like giving the 3rd density consciousness a blood transfusion), but many will repeat the illusion. If we look at this from more of an eternal perspective, we have all of eternity to learn these lessons. And those that fail 3rd grade this time around, will go repeat 3rd grade somewhere else, and perhaps it will be a more harmonious class room. And I tend to look at suffering from a karmic perspective, and every pain will eventually be balanced and healed so there is no lasting damage to any soul. Its just eternal lessons for the universal consciousness. The Earth school may not be as easy as the Venus school was, but I imagine there are subtle karmic advantages to graduating from a hard school with more challenging lessons. Consider the difference between a Harvard degree and a community college degree. That's not exactly the right comparison, but perhaps you can see my point. Everything has its advantages and disadvantages. Everything is a karmic balancing equation. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Billy - 12-06-2014 (12-06-2014, 06:09 AM)Blimp Wrote: Dualistic thinking, there is no black and white. The ones that don't graduate will simply continue learning, the negatives will work off karma, the positives will learn higher vibration. So when you don't "graduate" all that is learned is in vain? The people who suffered have soften. Go into the world and look around you! The person you buy groceries from, your neighbor, look around! Was it all for nothing? Do you not see the compassion that is there, out in the REAL world? Not the angry conspiracy theorists purely focusing on the negative. All experience has merit.I agree that people have softened as a result of their suffering and that there is compassion but I can't help but feel that things didn't have to be this hard and dense. Wouldn't a less dense illusion have resulted in greater progress and more compassion and love? I suppose what I am asking is, whats the benefit of a dense illusion like our own over a less dense one like say Ra's? I appreciate your reply. RE: Harvest - Truth - Answers - Blimp - 12-06-2014 Because otherwise you wouldn't have learned that it doesn't need to be this hard and dense! You basically gave your own answer! You see the true value of love by seeing what it can be like without it! |