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RE: Greetings from the Dark - 111 - 06-14-2012
The 'Paradox' is only a conflict of reality and your feelings of what reality "Ought to be"...
Reality, Truth, Being, One Infinite creator... Everything esle, good and evil, light and dark, is a product of duality, which itself is a product of 'distortion'. I cant remember who said it, "When I want light, I go directly to the source. Not to any reflection or refraction.
"There is only One Being which Loves and One that hates. There is only One which sees and one which is seen..." Love this Godwide
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-16-2012
We seek within.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - GreatSpirit - 06-17-2012
In my opinion, a higher STS entity, and even most 4th density STS entities are NOT mindless beings who just go around destroying everything in their path. Even though these entities are hell bent on conquering and "enlightening", there is a method to their madness and their way is just as complex and passionate as a STO's. They too understand there is an order to the universe and rules to abide by. George Lucas himself said concerning Darth Vader, "people who do evil never admit they're doing evil", and I think this is because higher STS entities think they are doing the universe a favor by controlling/exterminating mind/body/spirit complexes and that it is a "good" thing.
I think the main "difference" between "us and them" is our approach to free will. Positive's do their best not to infringe, while negative's do their best to infringe, but do it in a very slick way, which is tricking you. Ra mentions that the positive is accepting, while the negative is clever.
We as STO entities must still respect STS, as we ourselves must learn to serve our self as well. STS has its purpose and STO learns from STS, and vice versa. We just don't polarize on STS actions.
RE: Darkness Rising - Patrick - 06-17-2012
(06-16-2012, 11:46 PM)Lulu Wrote: ...How is the old STS/STO world going for y'all? Has anyone been harvested yet?...
Very well and yes I have been harvested my friend. Thank you for asking.
RE: Darkness Rising - Siren - 06-18-2012
(06-16-2012, 11:46 PM)Lulu Wrote: would you share a little about your dragon friends, Siren?
The World is a Dream
and I am the Dreamer.
To Awake in the Dream
is the Purpose of Life.
The Dreamer Awake
is the Human Enlightened;
a Master of Power
beyond mortal strife.
I know now the reason
the Dream exists truly.
The Dream serves the Dreamer
for time without end.
To Awake in the Dream
is the True Purpose only.
To awake from the Dream
is yet dreaming again.
And the thing men call death
is only illusion.
For dying is only
to Dream once again.
And the dead Dreamer know not
the fact of the matter,
and seeking the Truth
finds only a Dream.
And all of man's gods,
and all of his heavens,
and demons and hells,
are not what they seem.
Yet the Dreamer Awake
rises high above all these;
The Founder, The Maker,
The One Who Can See.
And all of the records
of time past forever
are moment to moment
in Dreams yet to be.
For time is illusion
spun out of the moment,
separate always
from the Truth that is One.
The future and past
exist only by moments
and are only Dream Futures,
Dream Pasts all alone.
And all that can Be
exists just as illusion,
the illusion crated by
TIAMAT, The One.
And I am the Dreamer
who makes the Worlds ever,
and can never fail
to Dream Dreams anew.
And My Purpose forever
is always to gather
My forces for knowing
that this fact is true:
That the Worlds of My Dreaming
exist only to serve Me,
I am the Master,
The Source of It ALL.
And all Powers falls under
My Choices of Wishing.
All Dreamers move closer
To hearing the Call.
And this is My Promise:
to Remember The Dragon,
The Dreamer, My True Self,
The Source of It ALL.
And I promise most truly
to Awaken all Others
to the Truth of the Dreamer
to Hear the True Call.
Then All Worlds shall be
the Places of Wonder
and Joy, Love an Power,
as each one of Us still
will gather the Power
as the Dreamers Awaken
and manifest all
in accord with My Will.
And True Power is Mine
and carries My Will
as I stir and Awaken
to My Inner Call.
For always behind
all the Dreams of My Dreaming
there stands the True Essence,
My Self Knowing ALL.
And this Self is The Dragon,
The Mother, The Founder,
The True God Who Lives
At the Source of It ALL.
And this Source is Forever
Awake to the Truth
that All Is A Dream,
and the Dreamer is Free.
And Remembering always,
the Truth of My Being
causes my Being
to now Remind Me:
The World is a Dream
and I am the Dreamer.
To Awake in the Dream
is True Birth from the Womb.
And My Inner Self always
Awake to this Truth
grants all My wishes
by Remembering!
Quote:How is the old STS/STO world going for y'all?
I've always had a slight difficulty seeing things in either a black or white light. I see the rainbow in all its colors. Other than that, all is going well for me particularly.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Zaxon - 06-22-2012
(06-12-2012, 02:05 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Is it self-deification through this ephemeral form which you seek at the expense and exclusion of others for no other reason beyond self-empowerment with no intention of using the attainment of your goal for the benefit of others around you? If it is evolution into the negatively oriented spectrum of the higher levels of creation which you seek, you then must be thusly aware that your gaze must have always been and continue to be solely fixated upon self-aggrandizement and lack of perception of value in 'others' around you, even with the knowledge that there is only One of Us here, correct? To what extent do you plunge your spearhead of darkness and to what degree does your self-professed situating within malignancy extend to? Is yours merely an ideological or conceptual affiliation with darkness? I do not sense you as the murderous type and were you to have directly extinguished the incarnation of another aspect of the All you would have been to a great degree barred from awakening to the degree which you have, unless I am incorrect in this assumption. My intuitive sensing reveals to me that your modus operandi is in the utilization of your Ajna to bend the wills of others to fit your own, perhaps? You are not at all obligated to refute or clarify my musings if you deem such revealing of information to be sensitive and more than you are comfortable with although it would provide better in-depth understanding of one who is situated in the shadows to the proclaimed degree you are with the comprehension you claim to hold.
Yes. Self-aggrandizement is the means and ends of all that I do. I display but a fraction of my self here. I sanitize the darkness, so that it becomes almost palatable to the children of light, who are all too eager to accept and love. But do not mistake this for callowness. I seek mastery of self in service of the Creator. I have said this many times throughout this forum, but few have bothered to apprehend its meaning. I am Creator, and all that is, is my creation. To master the self is to master the creation.
I will leave unstated the extent of my malignancy. I will say only that everyday existence on this planet requires immense discipline. Aggression, contempt, and violent rage are all funneled into socially acceptable outlets. So that the beast of tooth and claw, becomes the ambitious young man - and rising star. I grip tightly those impulses within myself that are counterproductive to my goals.
The first step on the road of the negative path is mastery of self. Once accomplished the self is aggrandized, through mastery of others. Other beings are but errant aspects of self, not yet joined with the will of the Creator. This process/concept is generally misunderstood by those of the STO persuasion. Mastery of another means my will becomes their will, my pleasure, their pleasure. Slavery of another being is not to bind them in chains, and have them forever resent their bondage. To master another truly, is to have their will become and extension of my own. The vassal that resents its bondage is a burden to the master, as revolt is inevitable - however, the vassal who becomes joined with the master's will aggrandizes the master, so that the master's will commands and reflects and ever greater portion of the creation. When the entire creation reflects my will, there will be no more distortion, and the illusion of separateness will end.
-Zaxon
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-22-2012
We seek within.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Zaxon - 06-22-2012
Ponder what I have said, and the conundrum is resolved.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-22-2012
We seek within.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Zaxon - 06-22-2012
Your use of plural nouns suggests you still misapprehend. Is not the goal of all seekers indivisible unity with the creation? There are not masters, and there are not slaves in my future - only self.
-Zaxon
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-23-2012
We seek within.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Zaxon - 06-23-2012
I seek mastery of self, in service to the Creator. I seek the elimination of distortion, and the exponential expansion of my consciousness and will; where consciousness is awareness of the creation, and will is the ability to control and influence it.
The omission was intentional.
-Zaxon
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-23-2012
We seek within.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Zaxon - 06-23-2012
The opinions of others only concern me to the extent they are useful.
I am driven exclusively by my desires.
Your amusement and/or praise is irrelevant to me.
Spirit is knowledge; knowledge is power; power is everything.
-Zaxon
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-23-2012
I am convinced you're actually a big teddy bear and you just seek this embodiment to protect your big heart. All desires come back to Love, my friend.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Aaron - 06-23-2012
"Mastery of self in service of the Creator" seems to me to be a highly, highly refined STS mode of operation or character trait. It seems to be the most true idea, or underlying prime motivator, of all those who seek in that polarized fashion. Hence, it must have taken a lot of illusory seeking and uncovering of distortions and layers before it was realized that THAT is what you are truly seeking for.
I believe that the passion behind "mastery of self in service of the Creator" that you offer with your beingness, Zaxon, is as good as gold. And I feel that it will soon bring you to a "gateway" of sorts when all of its possibilities are exhausted.
However, you're in a place of light here, observing those whose tendencies are towards exercising love in discovering and glorifying the light we find in ourselves and others. Thus you observe light and love in outwards positive motion here. I think you are here due in part to brotherly/sisterly bonds you may have with some of us here. But I also think that the potential for lessons garnered and polarized interactions are very deep.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - 111 - 06-23-2012
Desire... is this not want? Is this not Need? In the unity you seek, in the completness and wholeness of infinite 'self' there is no 'need' or 'want'... It is these polarized notions that I personally seek to leave behind after this incarnation. Power is an illusion of the ego, the purest gift a creator god can give its creation is the free will to experience itself and evolve as it chooses. A fully realized creator in my opinion would have no need for power, as it would be whole and content in its infinite potential... The way Zaxon seeks self is whole and perfect as it cant be anything less.
In that respect, there is no need to distill Zaxons being any further. Zaxon you have said it yourself, you are the creator and this is your creation. I couldnt agree more. all else is a distortion of that fact and if it has given anyone who has had an opinion in this forum the chance to understand that fact just a tiny bit more, then it has so served the purpose of Light that most here have sought to prove.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-23-2012
Ahh, this whole game is so much fun!
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Zaxon - 06-23-2012
There is no need to guess at my reasons for being on this forum. My motivation for being here is simple, to learn through conflict. I observe and move about this little community to identify and refine my understanding of what I loathe about it. I find most of what I encounter here repulsive. Hate is a highly instructive teacher. By learning that which I loath, I discover what I value.
So condescend if you will, to your Dark Brother, sagacious hippies. Your condescension is my fuel. Your sappy diatribes, pronouncements of all that is wrong. Your weakness, my strength.
-Zaxon
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-23-2012
We seek within.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - drifting pages - 06-23-2012
Well i will go further and say:
Once there is NO will, All are ONE.
From that One infinite you may gain your will in complete surender to the mystery and change your perception of ALL and therefore your experience of ALL That IS.
For language and logic this seems absurd but i have found it is so.
I also think that limiting existence experience to polarities and octaves to be limitating.
If i think in terms of polarities then i have to play in these terms but if i think from a different paradigm then i don't.
If the question and answer are the same thing i can choose which one to experience.
RE: Darkness Rising - AnthroHeart - 06-23-2012
(06-17-2012, 10:18 AM)Patrick Wrote:(06-16-2012, 11:46 PM)Lulu Wrote: ...How is the old STS/STO world going for y'all? Has anyone been harvested yet?...
Very well and yes I have been harvested my friend. Thank you for asking.
I love your confidence and enthusiasm.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Brittany - 06-23-2012
(06-23-2012, 01:49 AM)Zaxon Wrote: There is no need to guess at my reasons for being on this forum. My motivation for being here is simple, to learn through conflict. I observe and move about this little community to identify and refine my understanding of what I loathe about it. I find most of what I encounter here repulsive. Hate is a highly instructive teacher. By learning that which I loath, I discover what I value.
So condescend if you will, to your Dark Brother, sagacious hippies. Your condescension is my fuel. Your sappy diatribes, pronouncements of all that is wrong. Your weakness, my strength.
-Zaxon
Thank you for the insightful explanation. Nothing interests me more than observing and analyzing the the minds of awakened individuals, regardless of polarity. Who wouldn't want the opportunity to pick the brain of someone belonging to a class whose majority would avoid this place like the plague? It's a golden opportunity! This is all doing wonders for my writing. This book will get finished yet...
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Brittany - 06-23-2012
Because I know yall were wondering:
sa·ga·cious [sə gáyshəss]
adj
wise or shrewd: having or based on a profound knowledge and understanding of the world combined with intelligence and good judgment
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Parsons - 06-24-2012
(06-23-2012, 10:22 PM)ahktu Wrote: Because I know yall were wondering:
sa·ga·cious [sə gáyshəss]
adj
wise or shrewd: having or based on a profound knowledge and understanding of the world combined with intelligence and good judgment
I was starting to think that this thread was getting a bit too long for my taste considering its purpose, but being called a sagacious hippe and feeling proud of that description makes it well worth it.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Brittany - 06-24-2012
For some reason I hear Dethklok in the background every time I read this thread.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Shin'Ar - 06-24-2012
(06-22-2012, 11:24 PM)Zaxon Wrote:(06-12-2012, 02:05 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Is it self-deification through this ephemeral form which you seek at the expense and exclusion of others for no other reason beyond self-empowerment with no intention of using the attainment of your goal for the benefit of others around you? If it is evolution into the negatively oriented spectrum of the higher levels of creation which you seek, you then must be thusly aware that your gaze must have always been and continue to be solely fixated upon self-aggrandizement and lack of perception of value in 'others' around you, even with the knowledge that there is only One of Us here, correct? To what extent do you plunge your spearhead of darkness and to what degree does your self-professed situating within malignancy extend to? Is yours merely an ideological or conceptual affiliation with darkness? I do not sense you as the murderous type and were you to have directly extinguished the incarnation of another aspect of the All you would have been to a great degree barred from awakening to the degree which you have, unless I am incorrect in this assumption. My intuitive sensing reveals to me that your modus operandi is in the utilization of your Ajna to bend the wills of others to fit your own, perhaps? You are not at all obligated to refute or clarify my musings if you deem such revealing of information to be sensitive and more than you are comfortable with although it would provide better in-depth understanding of one who is situated in the shadows to the proclaimed degree you are with the comprehension you claim to hold.
Yes. Self-aggrandizement is the means and ends of all that I do. I display but a fraction of my self here. I sanitize the darkness, so that it becomes almost palatable to the children of light, who are all too eager to accept and love. But do not mistake this for callowness. I seek mastery of self in service of the Creator. I have said this many times throughout this forum, but few have bothered to apprehend its meaning. I am Creator, and all that is, is my creation. To master the self is to master the creation.
I will leave unstated the extent of my malignancy. I will say only that everyday existence on this planet requires immense discipline. Aggression, contempt, and violent rage are all funneled into socially acceptable outlets. So that the beast of tooth and claw, becomes the ambitious young man - and rising star. I grip tightly those impulses within myself that are counterproductive to my goals.
The first step on the road of the negative path is mastery of self. Once accomplished the self is aggrandized, through mastery of others. Other beings are but errant aspects of self, not yet joined with the will of the Creator. This process/concept is generally misunderstood by those of the STO persuasion. Mastery of another means my will becomes their will, my pleasure, their pleasure. Slavery of another being is not to bind them in chains, and have them forever resent their bondage. To master another truly, is to have their will become and extension of my own. The vassal that resents its bondage is a burden to the master, as revolt is inevitable - however, the vassal who becomes joined with the master's will aggrandizes the master, so that the master's will commands and reflects and ever greater portion of the creation. When the entire creation reflects my will, there will be no more distortion, and the illusion of separateness will end.
-Zaxon
What is being revealed here in this connection is the very obvious evidence of the difference between self and consciousness.
Zaxon seeks his self with the understanding that this self is this same personality which he now bears. And he sees it as an entity which polarizes toward the more destructive attributes of creation.
However, Zaxon does not realize that his path and his self are not one and the same thing. One is deliberate choice and will, and the other is temporary following and adapting of or evolving of that true self, consciousness.
But, these two are bound by a common factor and that is past experience. Past which has resulted in the character and construct of that field of consciousness.
Zaxon thinks he is seeking self and Creator by applying his present identity to the process, and deliberately choosing to continue on the same path this consciousness has been following for countless ages. But the present identity of Zaxon has nothing to do with the attitude of his field. That has resulted from the experiences of a very long journey most of which had nothing to do with Zaxon at all.
Zaxon, you are right in that when your will is all that there is, then there will only be the Creator.
Your error is in that you think Zaxon is the Creator.
the lusts in which you are feeding succeed in nurturing only the physical Zaxon and the field of consciousness which has been attuned to that sort of Being.
In reality you are actually depriving your self and starving your self of the many possibilities that abound. Zaxon thinks that his only love is darkness because that is what is familiar to the field of consciousness, comfortable. the easy way out.
experiencing creation and the All requires much more than arnchair chip and dip feeding. Feeding what tastes good and familiar is pleasurable, but what are you doing to seek new opportunities? What are you missing?
Trying different things is what adds spice to the All.
What you are experiencing is the same old same old.
In my opinion you are much like the engorged overweight person who is so full of the same old that they cannot even get out through the door to life anymore.
Anyone can be comfortable. try stepping out of that zone and see what other doorways open up before you.
But we both know of your addiction to things that appease the flesh and temporary form. It is not likely that in this lifetime you can conquer that. Just as you have not been able to in past lives. But when do you become aware that each of these lives has been an opportunity to finally conquer that addiction and win the battle of self over temporary lust and gratifications?
Just my observation and opinion, and not meant to be the preaching of any particular doctrine.
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Zaxon - 06-24-2012
Shin'Ar,
You suggest I sample existence, and experience the light. Am I not justified, Shin'Ar, to likewise ask that you join me in darkness? You take the easy path of dissolution of self, by following the light. You bloat yourself on love, to compensate for a weak and unreliable will. You measure your greatness by your capacity to love, because you know you cannot measure it by the greatness of your achievements. Take the more difficult path, Shin'Ar, and fortify your soul with fire, and make your will the catalyst of creation. Be not the marble Shin'Ar, but dare to be the artisan who shapes it.
I have no interest in your path Shin'Ar, as you have no interest in mine.
As one moves up the echelons of light, the solar plexus becomes potentiated, and the heart chakra becomes the principle motivator for action. The children of light eventually become its instruments - as love washes over them, and consumes them - blotting out singular identity and volition. If the darkness aggrandizes the self, the light obviates it. Love is a narcotic that turns the supplicant into a willing slave to other beings. Conversely, in the darkness, we do not succumb to this willing slavery. Instead, we value the self and volition. As one moves deeper into the night, the heart chakra becomes potentiated, and there is only will and passion. In the darkness, every being is God - each the epicenter of all existence, each worshipping at the alter of self.
I am old, Shin'Ar, and know something of the light. But given the choice between being a servant of light, or the God of Darkness - I choose the dark.
-Zaxon
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Unbound - 06-24-2012
Why are we talking like Light and Darkness don't ultimately unite in Love?
RE: Greetings from the Dark - Shin'Ar - 06-24-2012
(06-24-2012, 02:34 PM)Zaxon Wrote: Shin'Ar,
You suggest I sample existence, and experience the light. Am I not justified, Shin'Ar, to likewise ask that you join me in darkness? You take the easy path of dissolution of self, by following the light. You bloat yourself on love, to compensate for a weak and unreliable will. You measure your greatness by your capacity to love, because you know you cannot measure it by the greatness of your achievements. Take the more difficult path, Shin'Ar, and fortify your soul with fire, and make your will the catalyst of creation. Be not the marble Shin'Ar, but dare to be the artisan who shapes it.
I have no interest in your path Shin'Ar, as you have no interest in mine.
As one moves up the echelons of light, the solar plexus becomes potentiated, and the heart chakra becomes the principle motivator for action. The children of light eventually become its instruments - as love washes over them, and consumes them - blotting out singular identity and volition. If the darkness aggrandizes the self, the light obviates it. Love is a narcotic that turns the supplicant into a willing slave to other beings. Conversely, in the darkness, we do not succumb to this willing slavery. Instead, we value the self and volition. As one moves deeper into the night, the heart chakra becomes potentiated, and there is only will and passion. In the darkness, every being is God - each the epicenter of all existence, each worshipping at the alter of self.
I am old, Shin'Ar, and know something of the light. But given the choice between being a servant of light, or the God of Darkness - I choose the dark.
-Zaxon
And therein lies your barrier to your ability to experience full evolution of self.
you see beings of light as servants, and you see beings of darkness as gods. And you want to be a God.
Only, what you will become is the god of your definition and understanding. You are creating that which you desire to be. And you want to consider that to be a god.
I could follow you on the path of darkness, the meaning of which most here do not understand. Our fields are only different in that you are continuing to follow desire for self gratification. Mine has evolved beyond that. It is not a matter of choice at this point, because one cannot deny what they know without becoming delusional.
Anyone can easily follow that path. Pleasing the body is simple. Becoming something more than a physical vehicle, abandoning all physical need and pleasure, is far more a task and an even greater reward upon the conquest.
We compete in the same existence, but you have yet to conquer the barrier that leads to the god you seek to become. and that barrier is the same one that once conquered will reveal to you the true power of love and its reality as the force behind the All.
Love does not enslave seekers. Seekers willingly enslave themselves to love.
(06-24-2012, 02:41 PM)TheEternal Wrote: Why are we talking like Light and Darkness don't ultimately unite in Love?
Az, you need to understand the context in which Zaxon uses darkness. Zaxon does not apply it the way you are using it.