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RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Turtle - 11-11-2017 (11-10-2017, 06:59 PM)Cainite Wrote:(11-10-2017, 05:10 PM)Glow Wrote: This is the saddest thing I have read in a while. I'm not sure if you saw the thread I started called "what causes a hole in the aura..." but just before that thread started I had my first negative greeting since awakening that I am conscious of. It clearly entered my body for a brief time, less than a minute but it was distinct. I'm going to guess a lot of my youth was spent tormented by things of such nature but I just thought it was a result of my childhood breaking me so never would have thought entity/energy. I had a raging case of ocd with lots of horrible thoughts... suicidal wishes, self harm, and just unbridled terror, its interesting in retrospect to see I was unaware I was perhaps being effected by outside forces. Yeah, only one way you're going to reverse all that if you truly wish to...with a lot of focus and effort over time. However, if your desire is strong, the going can be less of an ordeal. If your desire is absolute, the going will be lighter than you can currently imagine. Doesn't mean it would be easy, just that you would relish in the difficulty that comes. ![]() Quick edit: First post of page 7. Aw yeah. ![]() RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Philalethist - 11-11-2017 Hi Dante. I hope your situation is improving! I'm sure that means a whole lot coming from some random idiot like me though...moving on! I'm going to provide some of my personal observations about you! Why would I do this? Well, against my better judgement, sometimes I do things for other people that I wish they would do for me if I were in their shoes. Best intentions right? Don't those always go to s***. If I were as evolved as mister Aion I'd probably realize the wisdom of treating people the way they want to be treated instead of the way I'd like them to treat me. I've still got quite a bit of stupid to work through though. Without further ado! In my extremely fallible opinion, in what may or may not be completely unrelated to your possession, it seems to me that you remain within the grips of a powerful blockage which is called pride. Now understand, my own spiritual seeking is more along the lines of slowly shoveling away my personal pile of spiritual dung, and undoubtedly the vast majority of spiritual seekers here are far beyond my level of development, quite probably you included. If there is one thing I believe though, first and foremost I believe in the VERY REAL possibility that, everything I do believe, may be entirely inaccurate. Without a foundation of humility such as this, enlightenment will be forever out of reach. You display very obvious signs of extreme pride. Hypersensitivity to any perceived criticism, a belief in one's own superiority/specialness, an unwillingness to honestly consider that one might be wrong, etc. I'm sorry to say, that however arrogant it might be of me to say, it's not really up for debate whether or not this is something you have yet to move beyond; because it is glaringly obvious. Really the only toss up is whether or not you will be able to see this within yourself at this time, or if you will reject it only to eventually find your humility someday in the future. Understand that for one stuck at the level of pride, there is a fundamental belief in one's own vulnerability. That is why the prideful are so defensive. There is an image to protect. Whether the image is held up to the world or held up only to oneself, it is just the same; and in truth this image is vulnerable, which is why it requires defending. Now the natural reaction of the prideful to being told about their pride is, of course, immediate denial; because pride is a "flaw" and one who is prideful will not see it. It is not a conscious decision to ignore it, which is why pride is a colossal obstacle for most spiritual seekers, pride is blinding. It requires a very deliberate effort to see it and transcend it and keep watch for it. I will now paraphrase some of your statements to illustrate. (some statements may be exaggerated to make a point and for comical purposes. You can take a joke... right?) "All of you weak minded little pussies probably would have O.D.ed just to escape the torture I've had the strength and courage to endure for the last 15 years! Stop BLAMING me! I have done everything right! I have done more than you're feeble little mind can possibly imagine, certainly more than you could/would have even been able to do, to try to rid myself of this menace! There is nothing I did, no mistake I made, no part I played in creating this experience for myself other than the fact that I'm such a bright beacon of light and super advanced spiritual being that the God-like forces of darkness took notice and attacked without mercy or purpose. Either that or I'm at the center of a new way of harvesting entities and am a groundbreaking test subject in the dna/rna alteration project for the benefit of all humanity!" I took some creative liberties, but it was with the hopes of increasing the likelihood that you might notice your own pride, which is usually unlikely; but stranger things have happened. Regarding your possession, I suspect that your pride is also the main reason why you more or less dismissed Aion's primary advice for shedding your attacker/s. If you recall, he relayed that the only way he overcame his ordeal was by surrendering all beliefs and merging with the silence, to let go of all attachments and dwell in the sheer joy of pure existence as the field of consciousness. (I may have added a few embellishments there.) The key to what he said, and a suggestion that he repeatedly gave, is that you must let go of everything you believe. Let go of your conviction that 2+2=4, that water is liquid, that gravity holds you down. Maybe you don't see with your eyes, maybe you don't hear with your ears or taste with your tongue. To start, all you have to do, is say, "Maybe." Maybe, just maybe, everything that I believe is true, actually is not. Are you willing to consider the possibility that everything you believe, from your smallest assumptions to the grandest conspiracies, might not be true? Obviously everyone believes that what they believe is true, otherwise they wouldn't believe it! And of course, what YOU believe actually IS true. But let's say, hypothetically of course, that some thing or another that you believed, actually wasn't true. If you weren't even willing to SERIOUSLY consider that as a possibility, then there is no way in hell that you would learn the real truth, you'd be trapped. Now with Aion's suggestion, the way to really do it, is to simply not believe anything. You just throw out everything. You just say, "f*** if I know." You don't need to believe things to live your life anyway! Do you have to believe that gravity holds you to the floor to live your life? Nope! If it isn't true, then believing it is only going to block my mind from seeing the truth. So hopefully my post wasn't too full of stupid! Unlikely though. Maybe you even got something out of it, my feeble attempts at being of aid are now exhausted! Good luck with your possession stuff! RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - MangusKhan - 11-11-2017 Hehehe... Nothing like a bit of the old me-so-stupid routine to lower someone's guard. Clever but probably ineffective in this case. Trying to remove specks from other peoples' eyes in such a direct fashion is rarely fruitful and often produces backlash, unless they want to hear it, like you just said you do (thus inviting this here post). Come on, Philalethist. There's humility and then there's the illusion of humility. Your illusory humility matches your illusory stupidity wonderfully. Edit: In the sake of fairness and justice, all entities using the forum now have permission to criticise me in unbridled fashion. RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Turtle - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 08:10 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: Edit: In the sake of fairness and justice, all entities using the forum now have permission to criticise me in unbridled fashion. *Looks at your avatar picture* You got something in your stache man. RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Philalethist - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 08:10 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: Hehehe... Damn, I should probably buy more effective eye speck tweezers... and mirror to use them with! A little self-deprecating humor can be helpful when curbing one's pride (Dante take notes!), it helps not to take oneself too seriously (or anything for that matter), and so teasing oneself is useful! Although this is surely all just an elaborate attempt by my ego to show off how humble I am! It's hard though you know? How is someone as incredibly smart and wise as me supposed to realistically take on the herculean task of realizing that all thoughts of superiority and specialness are illusions? (Sigh) It sure is hard being me. RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - MangusKhan - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 02:04 PM)Philalethist Wrote:(11-11-2017, 08:10 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: Hehehe... Yeah the struggle is real. Sorry for my less than welcoming post before, brother. Welcome to the forums. I didn't mean you any great offence, I was just kind of suspicious about the fact that you chose that as your first post, and so decided to take the liberty to test you a little. Carry on. RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Turtle - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 02:04 PM)Philalethist Wrote:(11-11-2017, 08:10 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: Hehehe... lol. You might be confusing pride for consistency of integrity. Good try though ![]() RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Dante776 - 11-11-2017 Philalethist...Welcome to Bring4th! I actually like your paraphrased statement and thought it was pretty dead on (minus the p word of course...lol). I got quite a chuckle out of it! Here's the thing though. I appreciate what you're trying to say...I just think you latched onto the wrong word to make your point. You place too much emphasis on "pride." I think that everyone on this forum that has an opinion, including you, has some degree of pride. Especially when we feel sure enough to tackle such a complex topic and expect that it be received well by the intended OP. The problem is, when we express our opinion and then get a reply that we weren't expecting, or that shows a better grasp of the issue than the respondent, then it sounds like a 'pride' issue. So, it's actually the 'pride' of the respondent that's at issue more so than the OP. At least I think so in my case. We're all adults here (I think) and if we feel confident enough to give an an opinion, we should be able to hear out the OPs reply without taking offense or labeling them as prideful, arrogant, or lacking integrity. The rest of what you said regarding letting go of certain beliefs, I can agree with to some extent, but not entirely. Once again, we all have our core beliefs and unless something pretty profound comes across our eyes, we're probably going to cling to our beliefs. Like the old saying goes, "those who stand for nothing will fall for anything." So, you're arguing against human nature, because we all have opinions, and we all have questions that must be resolved in our minds. That's why most of us are on this forum. Where I will agree with you is in regards to 'the topic' of this forum, Ra and the Orion group, good vs evil, STO or STS, etc...Yes, I do feel much of it is a game that is played on us by higher density beings and I can suspend belief regarding the 'backstory' of the Ra Material. I address this pretty thoroughly in a discussion with Aion here, 'Is Ra Yaldabaoth, the Chief Archon?' None of this matters though when your in the throes of a "Dark Night", trust me on this!!! Turtle...When you say "consistency of integrity," you're simply speaking to the the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of my statements. In short, you don't believe me! Sounds a lot like Philalethist's position. Hey, more power to you! If you don't believe what I have shared, "I ain't mad at ya'." Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. MangusKhan...your on the money! RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Philalethist - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 03:40 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:(11-11-2017, 02:04 PM)Philalethist Wrote:(11-11-2017, 08:10 AM)MangusKhan Wrote: Hehehe... I thought it was funny! Seriously, no hard feelings whatsoever, I thought your response was great! Backstory on my first post here: I've occasionally glanced at these forums over the last few years, read the Law of One maybe 2013 I think? Good stuff. Sometimes I'll search these forums for one thing or another, yesterday I searched 'free energy' this thread came up probably because I didn't put the words in quotes and this thread has the word 'energy' all over the place, the fact that it's a more recent thread surely brought it to the top as well. So I start reading this thread, which of course has nothing to do with free energy technology, but it was definitely a little interesting to read, so I read it till the end (skimmed over a few of the posts) decided to make a post, made a new user because my last username was a crap username I use for junk registrations nowadays, and made my first post! Whether or not I post much at all beyond this thread is completely up in the air. RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Turtle - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 05:50 PM)Dante776 Wrote: Turtle...When you say "consistency of integrity," you're simply speaking to the the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of my statements. In short, you don't believe me! Sounds a lot like Philalethist's position. Hey, more power to you! If you don't believe what I have shared, "I ain't mad at ya'." Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I was responding to the words of Philalethist, not you Dante776, lol. RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Philalethist - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 05:50 PM)Dante776 Wrote: In short, you don't believe me! Sounds a lot like Philalethist's position. Awww, I'm sorry if you got the impression that I don't believe you. That's not true. I'm simply offering aid in my own special way. I am aware that it is unlikely that my words will immediately bring the machinations of your own prideful ego to your awareness thus allowing you to transcend them and view your situation with ever greater clarity. At the least, it is my hope that simply by increasing your exposure to such information and possibilities that perhaps it may catalyze within you and transcendence may come sooner than would otherwise have been the case. "I got quite a chuckle out of it!" I'm glad you enjoyed it! "I appreciate what you are trying to say...I just think you latched onto the wrong word to make your point." I say this in all sincerity: what would the more accurate word have been to describe what I was attempting to communicate? (Precise communication is usually important to me.) "I think that everyone on this forum that has an opinion, including you, has some degree of pride." Absolutely, but the degrees definitely vary. I, personally, have worked quite a bit to be conscious of my pride, it used to be more of an issue. By studying and noticing the machinations of the ego I come steadily (but very slowly) closer to transcending it (I hope.) "Once again, we all have our core beliefs and unless something pretty profoundly comes across our eyes, we're probably going to cling to our beliefs." Are you suggesting that such clinging is preferable? Even if it is probable, if such beliefs were not true would you not prefer to abandon them? Will you simply wait for something profound to come before your eyes before exploring the possibility that your current perceptions may be inaccurate? I don't think waiting is necessary. We can all start sifting through our illusory perceptions right now, to say you have none is to say that you are fully enlightened. "Like the old saying goes, 'those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.'" Perhaps it would be best to constantly fall than to hold to a pillar of shadows and illusion. Only the proud would be afraid of falling for 'anything' and thus appearing as a fool. The truly courageous would take such a risk as to be fooled over and over and over again and be ridiculed and shamed in the pursuit of the truth. Only those who are afraid cling to their beliefs. Those beliefs become a part of their identity, and so they defend their beliefs as though they were defending themselves. To find the truth we must relinquish our attachment to beliefs. If I say a belief is Mine, then when the belief is threatened, I will feel under attack and must defend it. If I simply say it is A belief, and do not claim ownership of it, then the belief is free to fall away if it is shown to be illusory. Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. "So, you're arguing against human nature, because we all have opinions, and we all have questions that must be resolved in our minds." All spiritual aspirants seek to transcend what is conventionally depicted as "human nature." Of course we all have opinions, questions, etc. I am suggesting that you let all of them go. I understand that you have studied and experienced a great deal of metaphysical phenomena. My studies do not include such things as the 7 archangles, the names of demons or archons or any of those things. I haven't the slightest clue about any of it. What I do study are the machinations of the ego. Now, of course (and this may sound patronizing or something) I am aware that what I believe may be completely unfounded and inaccurate, but it seems extraordinarily apparent to me, from reading all of the posts in this thread, that pride is quite a bit more than a minor blockage for you; and surely if you were aware of such a blockage you would have already addressed it. There is no shame in discovering that one's perceptions and attitudes were not quite as pristine as one believed. This is not to say that any of your beliefs are false! Every single thing you believe may be true, but that would not change the fact of this blockage. (Unless I'm wrong of course.) RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Dante776 - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 09:14 PM)Turtle Wrote:(11-11-2017, 05:50 PM)Dante776 Wrote: Turtle...When you say "consistency of integrity," you're simply speaking to the the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of my statements. In short, you don't believe me! Sounds a lot like Philalethist's position. Hey, more power to you! If you don't believe what I have shared, "I ain't mad at ya'." Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Oops...Sorry about that Turtle, lol. RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Turtle - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 10:23 PM)Dante776 Wrote:(11-11-2017, 09:14 PM)Turtle Wrote:(11-11-2017, 05:50 PM)Dante776 Wrote: Turtle...When you say "consistency of integrity," you're simply speaking to the the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of my statements. In short, you don't believe me! Sounds a lot like Philalethist's position. Hey, more power to you! If you don't believe what I have shared, "I ain't mad at ya'." Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. It's all good playa ![]() RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Dante776 - 11-11-2017 (11-11-2017, 09:17 PM)Philalethist Wrote:(11-11-2017, 05:50 PM)Dante776 Wrote: In short, you don't believe me! Sounds a lot like Philalethist's position. I think you're mistaking confidence with pride... 6 truths about confidence The confident person measures their choices and actions with wisdom. weighs input from others, and moves towards the Truth. doesn’t proceed through selfish ambitions. (Philippians 2:3-4) realizes they can’t do it alone. knows who they are, and who they aren’t. They’re “confident” where God has gifted them. works to build others up. (Ephesians 4:12-13) 5 truths about pride The prideful person never says they’re wrong. doesn’t accept input, but goes at everything alone. They makes decisions in a vacuum. bristles when taking advice/correction. doesn’t take others into account. craves public and/or private recognition for the works they’ve done. I have no problem taking advice from others, but if someone is going to misdiagnose the situation, sort of like what you're doing, and call me prideful, misinformed, schizophrenic, delusional or just outright insults me, then I do have a problem with that and am well within my right to correct them or defend my position. I don't know if you've noticed it from other threads, but that goes on quite a bit on this forum. We're all just sharing our experiences and views on different topics...sometimes it turns into a mild debate. Sometimes it get's a little heated. So, this kind of exchange may not be for everyone. Especially if they can't take it the way they deliver it. This forum is not for the faint of heart that's for sure. Ref: The difference between pride & confidence RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Philalethist - 11-12-2017 I wish you peace and happiness. ![]() RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Dante776 - 11-26-2017 (10-03-2017, 04:14 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: [...] I always took the Archons as a euphemism for the natural laws designed by the Demiurge to further complicate the means of ascension from it's physical cage, most notably the ways of people (See: 7 Deadly Sins) and further that they were personified only to give them a direct analogue for humans to comprehend how they could be 'alive as we are'. ![]() The Archons are the Annunaki. The Anunnaki where created by Fallen Annu-Elohim (the Fallen Lyran hybrid Founder race from the 11th dimension in Density 4). Ra, the humble servant of the Law of One, is a member of the Confederation of Planets, which includes the Annunaki (Nephilim). The Ra Confederation is part of the Guardian Alliance that exists in the 14th dimension and linked into the consciousness family of Seraphim "Avian." There are extensions of the Ra family in the lower dimensions that are infiltrated with Reptoid genetics and have destroyed themselves through "Satanic" Blood Sacrifice and partaking in these horrific behaviors (think Aztecs, demon possession, etc.) How the Archons Destroy Your Life https://thegodabovegod.com/how-the-archons-destroy-your-life-2/ The Rise of the Archons http://howtoexitthematrix.com/2016/06/25/the-rise-of-the-archons/ Archonic Spiritual Enslavement of Our Species — The Matrix Farm http://humansarefree.com/2016/12/archonic-spiritual-enslavement-of-our.html RE: Law of One or Satan's Harvest? - Aaron - 11-26-2017 I just listened to audiobook of Apocryphon of John the other night. In it, Jesus talks about the archons! I couldn't believe it at first when I heard it, but yeah he directly mentions them during the "Sophia" creation mythos according to what seems to be John channeling Jesus (after his death) in a cave in the desert. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dWgOiPj9cE |