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RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - AnthroHeart - 06-06-2012
StarDust, what you say about knowing when to offer assistance, and when to restrain spoke well to me.
I had gotten a little nervous in the past when there are times where I don't feel like being of service to others.
This caused me to practically become a slave to others.
But since then, I aim to serve when I genuinely feel it.
Before, I had wanted to go to 4D when I graduate, though I feel more resonant with 6D, and would much rather go there. I think I'd be a little too sensitive for 4D.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Patrick - 06-06-2012
(06-06-2012, 02:01 PM)Parsons Wrote: I was thinking, aren't all wanderers going home to their density rather than going with the rest into 4D with 3D graduates? I think I may have seen something specific about that from Ra or Q'uo but not where exactly.
Yep. Unless they managed to switch their polarity while being incarnate here.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - BrownEye - 06-06-2012
I am a Wanderer from the 1st density. I identify myself with life that takes shape from mineral.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Parsons - 06-06-2012
(06-06-2012, 02:39 PM)Patrick Wrote:(06-06-2012, 02:01 PM)Parsons Wrote: I was thinking, aren't all wanderers going home to their density rather than going with the rest into 4D with 3D graduates? I think I may have seen something specific about that from Ra or Q'uo but not where exactly.
Yep. Unless they managed to switch their polarity while being incarnate here.
Hmm, so unless One is just a 3D graduate, they won't be staying with Terra unless they choose to incarnate as a 4D wanderer(if there is such a thing with no Veil) or if they switched teams...
I wonder if there will be any 5D and beyond incarnate in their normal vehicles in full 4D Terra or if it's only 4Ders.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - AnthroHeart - 06-06-2012
(06-06-2012, 02:39 PM)Patrick Wrote:(06-06-2012, 02:01 PM)Parsons Wrote: I was thinking, aren't all wanderers going home to their density rather than going with the rest into 4D with 3D graduates? I think I may have seen something specific about that from Ra or Q'uo but not where exactly.
Yep. Unless they managed to switch their polarity while being incarnate here.
I shot someone dead in a dream last night because they wore a freaky costume. I wonder what that says about my polarity.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Patrick - 06-06-2012
We are working a lot in dreams. But that does not translate directly to our polarity. Ra suggested we make use of catalysts, that would be somewhat negative, in mental configurations. That's what you are doing in dreams.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - godwide_void - 06-06-2012
(06-06-2012, 02:01 PM)Parsons Wrote: I was thinking, aren't all wanderers going home to their density rather than going with the rest into 4D with 3D graduates? I think I may have seen something specific about that from Ra or Q'uo but not where exactly.
If I remember correctly, those whom are natives of higher densities, under the assumption that the individual has met the necessary requirements for graduation, are offered the options of either returning to their density of origin or continuing onward with this planet's inhabitants into the next density. Even if this hasn't been stated, it seems to be a very likely scenario in the event that one would wish to oversee/observe the manner in which this planet's populace adjust to such a drastic change of environment and being, which will likely be a very intriguing thing to bear witness to.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Unbound - 06-06-2012
I think you may choose from the spectrum of your awareness.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - darklight - 06-06-2012
Not sure if i'm an Wanderer, but I had an strange experience a couple of months ago. I emailed to L/L Research, but they where unable to give an precise answer to my question (many possibilities).
This was my question:
"I had recently a strange experience. I read The Law of One material nearly for an year now, in both Dutch and English language ( its partially translated in Dutch).
This is my experience:
I saw recently an some kind of dark tunnel when I was lying on my bed. I couldn't sleep and when I closed my eyes, it has began almost immedialtly. The "tunnel" was not in an straight line, but in curves and my speed was rapidly. Violet colored vortexes at the end, I believe I passed two of that tunnels with two vortexes. At the end I stopped traveling and I saw violet colored clouds or flames, difficult to say what it was exactly. And finaly at the end, a some kind of bright white light between these violet flames. After that, the visualisation was over. (I'm not drinking alcohol and don't use any kind of drugs :-) ).
I did research on the internet and I found the term "visualisations" in The Law of One material. Has this anything to do with "the gateway to intelligent infinity" ?"
Is it realy possible this is the gateway? And if yes, how do I know what I am? I mean STS or STO?
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Parsons - 06-06-2012
My friend, determining if you have general STO intentions or STS intentions is actually pretty simple IMO. I was actually rather confused if I was STO or STS at first reading the Ra material, but it has become crystal clear to me after further study.
Just ask yourself(in your private thoughts): Do I have overall intentions of either using as many people as I am capable for my own personal gain at their expense, or do I wish to help as many people as possible(or even save the world, for some) with very little regard for my own needs?
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - AnthroHeart - 06-06-2012
darklight, I don't think anyone can really tell you whether you are STS or STO.
I gauge it by how accepting you are of others.
If you're more accepting of others, that's a sign of STO.
If you try to control others most of the time, that's an STS sign.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - godwide_void - 06-06-2012
(06-06-2012, 09:02 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: darklight, I don't think anyone can really tell you whether you are STS or STO.
I gauge it by how accepting you are of others.
If you're more accepting of others, that's a sign of STO.
If you try to control others most of the time, that's an STS sign.
You may clarify further and expand upon that by adding that if one often asks another "would you like/do you need any help", are considerate, generous, kind and compassionate to another, that is a staple of being STO. Manipulation, greed at the expense of others, megalomaniacal tendencies, and generally malicious intent are a sign of STS.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - darklight - 06-07-2012
Thank you all for your replies.
I know STS is control and power over others, but sometimes I believe thats just one of the aspects of an STS being. In my life, I spend the most time on my own. But that doesnt mean I dislike people or try to control and manipulate them, its just the way I am. Maybe this is another STS aspect.
But on the other hand, if people ask me to help them, in anything, I like to help. In other words, I do not contact people, but they contacted me. So I never interfere, only if they asking. This is an STO aspect I believe.
STS is hard to understand what it is. For example, Rasputin was STS but he helped people because they asked him for help. Still many people believe that Rasputin manipulated the royal Romanov family, but the only thing what happened is that the family were very impressed in his healing powers.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Patrick - 06-07-2012
I said it before and I'll say it again.
Working on yourself by yourself and liking solitude is not STS.
If you are applying the live and let live, you are very much STO. Do you do your things and let other people do theirs? That's extremely STO! STS would manipulate and control others around them if they thought it would benefit them.
(06-07-2012, 06:03 AM)darklight Wrote: ...
STS is hard to understand what it is. For example, Rasputin was STS but he helped people because they asked him for help. Still many people believe that Rasputin manipulated the royal Romanov family, but the only thing what happened is that the family were very impressed in his healing powers.
I don't know much about Rasputin, but it seems to me that you've attached yourself to an embellished version of his story. The art of manipulation can be very subtle if you are very good at it. Subtle enough to result in people believing what you posted above.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - darklight - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 08:42 AM)Patrick Wrote: Working on yourself by yourself and liking solitude is not STS.
If you are applying the live and let live, you are very much STO. Do you do your things and let other people do theirs? That's extremely STO
Thanks for your reply, Patrick. Yes, thats very true what you said.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - darklight - 06-07-2012
I see frequently the indigo color and sometimes violet when I close my eyes (mostly at night in bed). The indigo color is associated with the 6th chakra. Does this realy mean something?
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Patrick - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 03:32 PM)darklight Wrote: I see frequently the indigo color and sometimes violet when I close my eyes (mostly at night in bed). The indigo color is associated with the 6th chakra. Does this realy mean something?
Do you feel pressure on your forehead ?
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - darklight - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 03:53 PM)Patrick Wrote:(06-07-2012, 03:32 PM)darklight Wrote: I see frequently the indigo color and sometimes violet when I close my eyes (mostly at night in bed). The indigo color is associated with the 6th chakra. Does this realy mean something?
Do you feel pressure on your forehead ?
No, never.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Parsons - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 06:03 AM)darklight Wrote: Thank you all for your replies.My thinking was exactly the same as you when I thought being an introvert might be STS. It's not.
I know STS is control and power over others, but sometimes I believe thats just one of the aspects of an STS being. In my life, I spend the most time on my own. But that doesnt mean I dislike people or try to control and manipulate them, its just the way I am. Maybe this is another STS aspect.
But on the other hand, if people ask me to help them, in anything, I like to help. In other words, I do not contact people, but they contacted me. So I never interfere, only if they asking. This is an STO aspect I believe.
There is a whole thread devoted to something called a MBTI personality test in which you can see how many other introvert STO on this forums. At work, can provide link later if needed.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Richard - 06-07-2012
(01-17-2012, 04:43 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: You didn't give an option for "I don't know."
I really have no idea. Not even a clue. It doesn't really matter to me though.
Yep...me too
Richard
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - darklight - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 04:30 PM)Parsons Wrote: My thinking was exactly the same as you when I thought being an introvert might be STS. It's not.
(06-07-2012, 04:30 PM)Parsons Wrote: There is a whole thread devoted to something called a MBTI personality test in which you can see how many other introvert STO on this forums. At work, can provide link later if needed.
Thank you. Good to know that STS is an very difficult pathway and that requires other 'things'.
A link would be nice.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Parsons - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 05:15 PM)darklight Wrote: Thank you. Good to know that STS is an very difficult pathway and that requires other 'things'.
A link would be nice.
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=3990
Everyone who voted for something starting with an "I" is an introvert.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Patrick - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 04:02 PM)darklight Wrote:(06-07-2012, 03:53 PM)Patrick Wrote:(06-07-2012, 03:32 PM)darklight Wrote: I see frequently the indigo color and sometimes violet when I close my eyes (mostly at night in bed). The indigo color is associated with the 6th chakra. Does this realy mean something?
Do you feel pressure on your forehead ?
No, never.
Well then, when/if you do start feeling it, you'll know it's normal. I thought I was getting the mark of the beast when I first sensed it.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - AnthroHeart - 06-07-2012
(06-07-2012, 08:33 PM)Patrick Wrote: Well then, when/if you do start feeling it, you'll know it's normal. I thought I was getting the mark of the beast when I first sensed it.
Interesting how each of us perceives our experiences differently. When I felt the pressure in my 3rd eye, it felt like a singularity it was so strong. It seems we all have our own share of fears too.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Seed - 06-07-2012
This thread has been a very informative read, thanks to all of you before me!
As for me, I voted for the "I unno, lol" category. :p I seem to have a couple strong signs of being a wanderer from 6th since I'm rather balanced with my love/wisdom. I also sound exactly like the Pleidian description, especially with the near zero self esteem issues I'm working with. However I feel as if I'm new, so I more strongly resonate towards being a native 3d adept, however distant I may be from being actually adept at anything! Partly the reason I chose the name "Seed," actually. A brand new little thing filled with potential. ^ -^!
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - darklight - 06-08-2012
Thanks for the link, Parsons.
I voted for INFP.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Ankh - 06-09-2012
(06-07-2012, 08:42 AM)Patrick Wrote: I said it before and I'll say it again.
Working on yourself by yourself and liking solitude is not STS.
Q'uo has said in one session I believe that wanderers, upon their awakening or at some other stages, want to draw themselves back sometimes, and live in solitude. Heck, Jim McCarty did that! Before he joined Carla and Don. Does that make him STS? :p
Ra also said:
17:18 Wrote:Know then, first, the mind and the body. Then as the spirit is integrated and synthesized, those are harmonized into a mind/body/spirit complex which can move among the dimensions and which can open the gateway to intelligent infinity, thus healing self by light and sharing that light with others.
True healing is simply the radiance of the self causing an environment in which a catalyst may occur which initiates the recognition of self, by self, of the self-healing properties of the self.
It is said here that you heal yourself first, then share the light with others.
I believe that all people can be of service and aid to others, even when their hearts are closed or they are in pain. But the more work is done in the self, in my humble understanding, the more we become able to aid others, by sharing more and more of that light which then travels in more and more undistorted ways through us as we work ourselves through our issues.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Parsons - 06-11-2012
(06-06-2012, 02:01 PM)Parsons Wrote: I was thinking, aren't all wanderers going home to their density rather than going with the rest into 4D with 3D graduates? I think I may have seen something specific about that from Ra or Q'uo but not where exactly.
Nevermind, just as my intuition already hinted at, I AM HOME already.
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2000/2000_0416.aspx Q'uo Wrote:The reason that this applies to the graduation context is that in that question that was brought by the one known as J the entities involved felt that, as wanderers from the fifth density, upon graduating from Earth’s third density they would automatically move back into their home vibration. This is emphatically not true, and we felt that this is a very germane point, for all wanderers become Earth natives when they incarnate. The taking of a physical body is the taking of the blood, and bone, and the sinew of the entire human experience. There is no such thing as a tourist in the body on planet Earth. All of you have become natives, whatever your planet or origin or your densities of previous experience.
This means that there is a very simple dynamic involved and it involves service to others, for the graduational criterion for positive polarity is that the seeker think more about serving others than about serving the self. The minimum grade for graduation from planet Earth is 51percent service to others. Now, for those who are attempting to polarize service to self, the maximum grade is 5percent service to others. To say that another way, the service-to-self entity must fight a graduation requirement in its purity of intention to serve the self. We may say that it is about as difficult to make the grade of 51percent service to others or of 95 percent service to self. We are extremely pleased that each of you have chosen service to others, for that is the polarity that we also have chosen, and we would truly be out of our depth in attempting to be of service to those who were attempting to polarize along the other option.
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - Patrick - 06-11-2012
Wow, being a wanderer here is quite something then!
RE: if you self identify as a Wanderer, what density do you think you come from? - AnthroHeart - 06-11-2012
So we've all got several million years again to make sixth density, for those from sixth?
Assuming I am a wanderer, I wonder why I'd have chosen to do it all over again.
Oh well, 4D ain't gonna be so bad.
I wonder what Ra was referring to then saying that wanderers would return to home density.
I did read another quote that says we can never go home. I wonder if this is what that is referring to.
Our love must have been something incredible to give it all up, and not have a chance at going back home.
We are brave indeed. But it saddens me too, more than I realize.
I feel like this guy here, feeling like he cannot go home.
I certainly don't feel at home here.
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