(10-12-2017, 04:08 AM)Aion Wrote: Well first off, you seem to be referring to all of this in reference to New Age and E/T styled channelers, but the concept of angels and demons is much older than all that.

Quote:Second, I can buy what you are saying about a particular group or entity, but what you seem to imply is this is ALL there is, and I just don't think that is the case. For example, what about other deities such as in other pantheons and religions? What about all the forms of spirituality which have nothing to do with extra-terrestrials?

Quote:Third, I know I've already said it, but I'm not really concerned with blame either way, I just want to alleviate suffering whenever possible. However I do get the sense that this has been a particular point of grievance for you since it is one you continue to respond strongly to. I assure you my advice is not intended as any sort of blame game but is only according to my understanding of how to work upon such foreign installations. I have seen and experienced fantastical things, the universe is a strange place. Do not mistake my belief that you might be able to do something about it for blaming you for your condition. I know you were just illustrating a point, but to be clear.

Quote:Like I said before, I believe there is a group of imposters, a gestalt intelligence as you call it, that mimics and steals the identities of other entities for its own use. I can tell you it is very frustrating to be so highly misrepresented. Note, I'm not saying "positive" and "negative" or "good and evil", my description here of imposters is that of deception. Consider that in light of what you have said.

Quote:Anyways, I guess you're just f***** then, eh? I can understand how you'd be exasperated.

I could always take a whack at it and see if I can do anything for your situation, but I'm not sure there'd be any point without some confidence in the attempt.

Quote:As an example, your quote from 'Michael' there. Maybe it's an entity using the name of Michael and masquerading as such in order to lead the individuals in to a false sense of security with such absolute messages? Just because an entity gives a name, doesn't mean it is the entity you think or expect it to be. Even 'Ra' says if you want to have power over an entity you use its name.

(10-12-2017, 10:34 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-12-2017, 04:08 AM)Aion Wrote: Well first off, you seem to be referring to all of this in reference to New Age and E/T styled channelers, but the concept of angels and demons is much older than all that.

The composition of angels is the same whether in ancient times or now. Remember, they're interdimensional so the same being(s) interacting with you or I in 2017 can traverse the time spectrum and interact with someone in Egypt 4,500 BC, Babylonia 2,000 BC or Greece 1,500 AD.

Quote:Second, I can buy what you are saying about a particular group or entity, but what you seem to imply is this is ALL there is, and I just don't think that is the case. For example, what about other deities such as in other pantheons and religions? What about all the forms of spirituality which have nothing to do with extra-terrestrials?

Who said they had nothing to do with extraterrestrials? On the contrary. From what I understand humanity was seeded by the Sirians. Somewhere along the way their experiment was hijacked by fallen angelics, led by the Anunnaki. ANU, ENKI and ENLIL symbolically represent a triad of gods analogous of the Universal Mind Matrix as it has manifested in various cultures and religions over millenia.

For example, the sacred Hindu triad formed by Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva is identical to Sumerian Anunnaki triad ANU, ENKI and ENLIL. Wes Penre does a great job in tracing many ancient gods to the Anunnaki triad. The Anunnaki story forms the basis of the biblical "fall of man" which led to the Luciferian rebellion and the so called "war in heaven". Their Nephalim hybrids would go on to become the ruling elite and the Illuminati. I personally believe that the Illuminati along with the Orion group and other fallen angelics are behind many spiritual attacks.

Quote:Third, I know I've already said it, but I'm not really concerned with blame either way, I just want to alleviate suffering whenever possible. However I do get the sense that this has been a particular point of grievance for you since it is one you continue to respond strongly to. I assure you my advice is not intended as any sort of blame game but is only according to my understanding of how to work upon such foreign installations. I have seen and experienced fantastical things, the universe is a strange place. Do not mistake my belief that you might be able to do something about it for blaming you for your condition. I know you were just illustrating a point, but to be clear.

Oh no, I got that really. I was just saying what exactly can you do when you've done just about everything you can do. Maybe this is something Source beings wanted me to go through. I notice that the more I push back, increase my knowledge, and post and share this information that the darker energies slowly begin to recede and lighter energies and frequencies are slowly beginning to emerge (they still have limited control of my body, however).  

Quote:Like I said before, I believe there is a group of imposters, a gestalt intelligence as you call it, that mimics and steals the identities of other entities for its own use. I can tell you it is very frustrating to be so highly misrepresented. Note, I'm not saying "positive" and "negative" or "good and evil", my description here of imposters is that of deception. Consider that in light of what you have said.

I'm in agreement with you about our reality being hijacked by certain entities. But the point I'm making is that higher dimensional beings such as Sirians, Archangels, Ascended Masters, and even the Ra Confederacy have allowed this to happen. All for the purpose of steering us along a desired path, to solidify external systems of power and control. Duality also allows us the opportunity of appreciate light because we are in darkness. This system of duality is just a game to them but to us it's very real.

Quote:Anyways, I guess you're just f***** then, eh? I can understand how you'd be exasperated.

I could always take a whack at it and see if I can do anything for your situation, but I'm not sure there'd be any point without some confidence in the attempt.

How does that work if I may ask? Also, I'm just curious, how would you know if this isn't something being directed from the higher self or oversoul level? Have you ever run into that before?

Quote:As an example, your quote from 'Michael' there. Maybe it's an entity using the name of Michael and masquerading as such in order to lead the individuals in to a false sense of security with such absolute messages? Just because an entity gives a name, doesn't mean it is the entity you think or expect it to be. Even 'Ra' says if you want to have power over an entity you use its name.

That's true, but the same can be said about the people that gave us ALL of our scriptures. After all they were just channeling certain beings in the same manner as Carla Rueckert. Which means you can say the same thing about the Ra. Anyway, let's say you're right and it's not the gestalt entity known as Archangel Michael, that still shouldn't negate the "real" Michael and all other higher celestial beings from intervening, especially when you do everything you can to call on them. Wouldn't you agree?  

(10-12-2017, 12:36 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 10:12 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 09:57 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 06:46 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 04:49 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I think Sprout's point was you live by a fear based version of your own spirituality belief system,  and here we don't really subscribe to fear based philosophies since we feel like we should know better by now than to indulge the sensations of fear to control our behavior.

Even if the Ra Material provides more than enough fearful information...

Sorry that you take it that way man. But I'm not trying to frighten anyone. I'm just stating the facts about what has happened or is happening to me and looking at it from the perspective of the Ra material. Now, if you interpret that as fear based. That's unfortunate, because that is far from what I'm doing.

I see it as having an intellectual discussion about some very deep experiences just as many others on this forum have shared about their own experiences and I don't see it as fear based peddling. You've already made it clear that you don't believe that demon possession is real and that it's all in the mind so I can see why you feel this way.

We have talked to you, you have basically called us all ignorant. I don't think there's anything more to discuss.

Your words, not mine. Again, sorry you feel that way. Not my intentions.

-clears throat-
Forgive me for what I'm about to do.  Moderators, forgive me.  I'm turning off Sweet and turning on Sour.

I believe 'ignorant' is your word.  Such as said to SMC and Aion.  I could quote you and highlight every post in this thread by you nullifying discussions with you paraphrased as "You don't understand what I'm saying."

What's up with your attitude?  I'm supposed to be the irrational hypocrite around here, mister!

You know what I think?  I think you don't want to hear what we have to say because deep down inside you know you've lost your grip on reality.  I think you're in so far over your head in your mind that you can only rationalize it with spirituality phenomena without any substantial shred of evidence beyond 'evil demon God control me make me do bad things' but I think that's your rationalization.

I think YOU don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else and YOU just want our confirmation of your biases to rationalize them further.

What's next?  Your bed spontaneously combusts?  Your head turns 720 degrees?  You're possessed?  A possessed person has a modicum of desperation which includes accepting things they normally don't accept.  You have denied EVERYTHING except when people speak of your issues as being anything but true, and even then you deny their aid and help.

I think you know precisely what you're doing and no 'you're talking about yourself' mirror syndrome excuse will suffice at this point.  I've been kind, I've been open, you've taken and not given anything except your spit and spite of total irrational denial.

You're lazy, you're not STO, you're illogical, irrational, and fishing for attention, and I'd precisely know how to spot it because I see myself in you.

Well HELLO ME, HERE'S THE TRUTH

You belong in a mental institution for [obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help] of PURELY a psychological nature because NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR SPIRIT, but your mind.

Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions, and utmost mania in belief of God's and Goblins using pseudoscientific hogwash labels to make a narrative of unreal realities overlapping your actual reality.

That you are sick in the mind from trauma, and you've fled into pure maniacal fantasy and rewritten your own history in your mind to compensate.

I feel no entities from you, I've damned and dared demons to no retaliation.  You speak of things you know nothing about except that you read them somewhere.  Whether or not it's true is moot, I don't believe your's is a legitimate case otherwise you wouldn't play it out so casually and commonly like 'oh just another part of my life, SOMEBODY HELP ME!'

You are lonely, crying wolf, and the only way it's ever going to get better is if you stop running away from life into fantasies of why you can't handle it, and accept that EVERYTHING YOU BLAME ON YOUR POSSESSION IS ACTUALLY YOUR OWN DOING.

Until you aren't scared to be real, you'll always have some kind of 'problem'.  I'd know as a perfect example.  So whatever your issue is, and I know this post is just to feed you energy because deep down YOU'RE the possessor taking from everyone around you and giving back spite, I hope you as a soul see through your patterns and lessons that you've now ensnared yourself into and come to live a full happy incarnation free of your present narration of LIES and self deceit.

No, for real, you don't need a exorcism, you need God.  You're the demon, you're not the victim the way you promote yourself to be.

And if you are, do, something, about it, go live life, get diagnosed schizophrenic, be nice to everyone when you're not being a monster, live on disability, take a walk, freak out at monsters that are you just unable to accept being a part of yourself.

And stop calling yourself possessed.  The only thing possessed here is everyone buying into your fanciful story of monsters.

God save you from yourself.  Amen, and peace.  I'm being mean because you deserve some blunt honesty if you're going to be a snide jerk.  Sorry too but I do believe you've disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs, even calling yourself possessed.

I've said my piece and given my energy.  Show us how STO you are towards me right now, otherwise, good day sir.  I hope it's bright and sunny with God's love because all the darkness in the world can't block that out.

Quote:There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy. - Ra

I did not need to be harsh - (and took Aion's advice to heart) - but I've always (unrealistically) wanted B4th to be a sanctuary - as I live with a lot of challenging offline stuff - I get full-on here bcoz IRL I don't allow negative behaviour to be around me.
Self care - Self respect - Self preservation.

So I know I can be a 'firebrand' - direct - intense - but I'll remind members I made several comments clearly offering respect to the OP - so in light of that, the continual rude, dismissive replies are even more unfair - especially for example -the sexism of making sure to identify me by gender and age "Lady give me a break" compared to the less dismissive/aggressive responses to any male (replies) who (also) haven't agreed with him.
Give you 'a break'? I'm giving time to care enough to expend energy to try to help you! 

So, given this basic rudeness/character flaw - why/how should we accept his insistence he's believable - right minded? Stable enough to ascertain that he's possessed ?

I also 'smell a rat' that there's no openness to our ideas/advice/feedback - yet complete faith in many other ideas - experts etc.

All the fantasy artwork etc. new-age ideologies and links; yet no thorough sharing of his history as to who he is/how this all unfolded 14 years ago - and instead deflecting, or saying he already answered that - when asked yet again to answer that (!) is also suspiciously evasive - and as I said (right before I was so rudely replied to) - if you review all his posts - their content/intent and closed minded views since arrival to this forum - how else should/could I assess his objective as anything but as he, himself, has stated - to discuss/warn of "the perils and pitfalls"?

To be so arrogantly replied to when I point out this FACT (of the content of all his posts) to him - and instead, deny the ACTUAL WORDS he wrote (that can still be seen!) - is plain dodgy.

More I could say - but sun is shining - going outside to relax now.

(10-12-2017, 12:36 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 10:12 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 09:57 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 06:46 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 04:49 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I think Sprout's point was you live by a fear based version of your own spirituality belief system,  and here we don't really subscribe to fear based philosophies since we feel like we should know better by now than to indulge the sensations of fear to control our behavior.

Even if the Ra Material provides more than enough fearful information...

Sorry that you take it that way man. But I'm not trying to frighten anyone. I'm just stating the facts about what has happened or is happening to me and looking at it from the perspective of the Ra material. Now, if you interpret that as fear based. That's unfortunate, because that is far from what I'm doing.

I see it as having an intellectual discussion about some very deep experiences just as many others on this forum have shared about their own experiences and I don't see it as fear based peddling. You've already made it clear that you don't believe that demon possession is real and that it's all in the mind so I can see why you feel this way.

We have talked to you, you have basically called us all ignorant. I don't think there's anything more to discuss.

Your words, not mine. Again, sorry you feel that way. Not my intentions.

-clears throat-
Forgive me for what I'm about to do.  Moderators, forgive me.  I'm turning off Sweet and turning on Sour.

I believe 'ignorant' is your word.  Such as said to SMC and Aion.  I could quote you and highlight every post in this thread by you nullifying discussions with you paraphrased as "You don't understand what I'm saying."

What's up with your attitude?  I'm supposed to be the irrational hypocrite around here, mister!

You know what I think?  I think you don't want to hear what we have to say because deep down inside you know you've lost your grip on reality.  I think you're in so far over your head in your mind that you can only rationalize it with spirituality phenomena without any substantial shred of evidence beyond 'evil demon God control me make me do bad things' but I think that's your rationalization.

I think YOU don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else and YOU just want our confirmation of your biases to rationalize them further.

What's next?  Your bed spontaneously combusts?  Your head turns 720 degrees?  You're possessed?  A possessed person has a modicum of desperation which includes accepting things they normally don't accept.  You have denied EVERYTHING except when people speak of your issues as being anything but true, and even then you deny their aid and help.

I think you know precisely what you're doing and no 'you're talking about yourself' mirror syndrome excuse will suffice at this point.  I've been kind, I've been open, you've taken and not given anything except your spit and spite of total irrational denial.

You're lazy, you're not STO, you're illogical, irrational, and fishing for attention, and I'd precisely know how to spot it because I see myself in you.

Well HELLO ME, HERE'S THE TRUTH

You belong in a mental institution for obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help of PURELY a psychological nature because NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR SPIRIT, but your mind.

Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions, and utmost mania in belief of God's and Goblins using pseudoscientific hogwash labels to make a narrative of unreal realities overlapping your actual reality.

That you are sick in the mind from trauma, and you've fled into pure maniacal fantasy and rewritten your own history in your mind to compensate.

I feel no entities from you, I've damned and dared demons to no retaliation.  You speak of things you know nothing about except that you read them somewhere.  Whether or not it's true is moot, I don't believe your's is a legitimate case otherwise you wouldn't play it out so casually and commonly like 'oh just another part of my life, SOMEBODY HELP ME!'

You are lonely, crying wolf, and the only way it's ever going to get better is if you stop running away from life into fantasies of why you can't handle it, and accept that EVERYTHING YOU BLAME ON YOUR POSSESSION IS ACTUALLY YOUR OWN DOING.

Until you aren't scared to be real, you'll always have some kind of 'problem'.  I'd know as a perfect example.  So whatever your issue is, and I know this post is just to feed you energy because deep down YOU'RE the possessor taking from everyone around you and giving back spite, I hope you as a soul see through your patterns and lessons that you've now ensnared yourself into and come to live a full happy incarnation free of your present narration of LIES and self deceit.

No, for real, you don't need a exorcism, you need God.  You're the demon, you're not the victim the way you promote yourself to be.

And if you are, do, something, about it, go live life, get diagnosed schizophrenic, be nice to everyone when you're not being a monster, live on disability, take a walk, freak out at monsters that are you just unable to accept being a part of yourself.

And stop calling yourself possessed.  The only thing possessed here is everyone buying into your fanciful story of monsters.

God save you from yourself.  Amen, and peace.  I'm being mean because you deserve some blunt honesty if you're going to be a snide jerk.  Sorry too but I do believe you've disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs, even calling yourself possessed.

I've said my piece and given my energy.  Show us how STO you are towards me right now, otherwise, good day sir.  I hope it's bright and sunny with God's love because all the darkness in the world can't block that out.

(10-13-2017, 02:56 AM)smc Wrote:

(10-12-2017, 12:36 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 10:12 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 09:57 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote:

(10-09-2017, 06:46 PM)Dante776 Wrote: Sorry that you take it that way man. But I'm not trying to frighten anyone. I'm just stating the facts about what has happened or is happening to me and looking at it from the perspective of the Ra material. Now, if you interpret that as fear based. That's unfortunate, because that is far from what I'm doing.

I see it as having an intellectual discussion about some very deep experiences just as many others on this forum have shared about their own experiences and I don't see it as fear based peddling. You've already made it clear that you don't believe that demon possession is real and that it's all in the mind so I can see why you feel this way.

We have talked to you, you have basically called us all ignorant. I don't think there's anything more to discuss.

Your words, not mine. Again, sorry you feel that way. Not my intentions.

-clears throat-
Forgive me for what I'm about to do.  Moderators, forgive me.  I'm turning off Sweet and turning on Sour.

I believe 'ignorant' is your word.  Such as said to SMC and Aion.  I could quote you and highlight every post in this thread by you nullifying discussions with you paraphrased as "You don't understand what I'm saying."

What's up with your attitude?  I'm supposed to be the irrational hypocrite around here, mister!

You know what I think?  I think you don't want to hear what we have to say because deep down inside you know you've lost your grip on reality.  I think you're in so far over your head in your mind that you can only rationalize it with spirituality phenomena without any substantial shred of evidence beyond 'evil demon God control me make me do bad things' but I think that's your rationalization.

I think YOU don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else and YOU just want our confirmation of your biases to rationalize them further.

What's next?  Your bed spontaneously combusts?  Your head turns 720 degrees?  You're possessed?  A possessed person has a modicum of desperation which includes accepting things they normally don't accept.  You have denied EVERYTHING except when people speak of your issues as being anything but true, and even then you deny their aid and help.

I think you know precisely what you're doing and no 'you're talking about yourself' mirror syndrome excuse will suffice at this point.  I've been kind, I've been open, you've taken and not given anything except your spit and spite of total irrational denial.

You're lazy, you're not STO, you're illogical, irrational, and fishing for attention, and I'd precisely know how to spot it because I see myself in you.

Well HELLO ME, HERE'S THE TRUTH

You belong in a mental institution for [obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help] of PURELY a psychological nature because NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR SPIRIT, but your mind.

Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions, and utmost mania in belief of God's and Goblins using pseudoscientific hogwash labels to make a narrative of unreal realities overlapping your actual reality.

That you are sick in the mind from trauma, and you've fled into pure maniacal fantasy and rewritten your own history in your mind to compensate.

I feel no entities from you, I've damned and dared demons to no retaliation.  You speak of things you know nothing about except that you read them somewhere.  Whether or not it's true is moot, I don't believe your's is a legitimate case otherwise you wouldn't play it out so casually and commonly like 'oh just another part of my life, SOMEBODY HELP ME!'

You are lonely, crying wolf, and the only way it's ever going to get better is if you stop running away from life into fantasies of why you can't handle it, and accept that EVERYTHING YOU BLAME ON YOUR POSSESSION IS ACTUALLY YOUR OWN DOING.

Until you aren't scared to be real, you'll always have some kind of 'problem'.  I'd know as a perfect example.  So whatever your issue is, and I know this post is just to feed you energy because deep down YOU'RE the possessor taking from everyone around you and giving back spite, I hope you as a soul see through your patterns and lessons that you've now ensnared yourself into and come to live a full happy incarnation free of your present narration of LIES and self deceit.

No, for real, you don't need a exorcism, you need God.  You're the demon, you're not the victim the way you promote yourself to be.

And if you are, do, something, about it, go live life, get diagnosed schizophrenic, be nice to everyone when you're not being a monster, live on disability, take a walk, freak out at monsters that are you just unable to accept being a part of yourself.

And stop calling yourself possessed.  The only thing possessed here is everyone buying into your fanciful story of monsters.

God save you from yourself.  Amen, and peace.  I'm being mean because you deserve some blunt honesty if you're going to be a snide jerk.  Sorry too but I do believe you've disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs, even calling yourself possessed.

I've said my piece and given my energy.  Show us how STO you are towards me right now, otherwise, good day sir.  I hope it's bright and sunny with God's love because all the darkness in the world can't block that out.

I don't agree with all of C_A's words but have highlighted the ones I do resonate with. Even the parts that I don't; I see as valid expression and response to a person who is being very difficult to interact with - yet insists it is we that are the problem.

This is why I said I sense a 'vampiric' function to Dante776's posting - the arrogance and snideness doesn't sit with a disempowered supposedly desperate victim.
I also don't sense any current external entities causing the condition - but that the 'demon' is self created/self perpetuated (though perhaps from an original infringement) - I won't go further to view/fact-find - unsafe/tiring/waste of time anyway - I do sense that negatives are nearby 'in attendance'... I sense a thought-form is the supposed 'hand on the neck' - this is a fear creation - created by Dante776 (imo).

I understand frustration could make the OP be rude or exasperated - but there is so much aggression and disdain - verging on malice in his replies that I feel it was either the personality precursor to the phenomena; or personality development since original infringement; or that the OP is actually being used by entities (neg) to attempt to bring fear and disharmony to this forum.  I have considered that we may even be interacting with a negative - (and the overall tone does nothing to remove that possibility) - but I won't energetically interact (to determine that) as it's not my 'area of interest/exploration'.

To sow the seeds of doubt/fear and in particular belabour the repeated theme that 'NOTHING WORKS'... is (effectively) a direct "greeting".

Yes, this forum is equal to meeting the "greeting" with Love/Light.

Quote:There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy. - Ra

I did not need to be harsh - (and took Aion's advice to heart) - but I've always (unrealistically) wanted B4th to be a sanctuary - as I live with a lot of challenging offline stuff - I get full-on here bcoz IRL I don't allow negative behaviour to be around me.
Self care - Self respect - Self preservation.

So I know I can be a 'firebrand' - direct - intense - but I'll remind members I made several comments clearly offering respect to the OP - so in light of that, the continual rude, dismissive replies are even more unfair - especially for example -the sexism of making sure to identify me by gender and age "Lady give me a break" compared to the less dismissive/aggressive responses to any male (replies) who (also) haven't agreed with him.
Give you 'a break'? I'm giving time to care enough to expend energy to try to help you! 

So, given this basic rudeness/character flaw - why/how should we accept his insistence he's believable - right minded? Stable enough to ascertain that he's possessed ?

I also 'smell a rat' that there's no openness to our ideas/advice/feedback - yet complete faith in many other ideas - experts etc.

All the fantasy artwork etc. new-age ideologies and links; yet no thorough sharing of his history as to who he is/how this all unfolded 14 years ago - and instead deflecting, or saying he already answered that - when asked yet again to answer that (!) is also suspiciously evasive - and as I said (right before I was so rudely replied to) - if you review all his posts - their content/intent and closed minded views since arrival to this forum - how else should/could I assess his objective as anything but as he, himself, has stated - to discuss/warn of "the perils and pitfalls"?

To be so arrogantly replied to when I point out this FACT (of the content of all his posts) to him - and instead, deny the ACTUAL WORDS he wrote (that can still be seen!) - is plain dodgy.

More I could say - but sun is shining - going outside to relax now.

(10-12-2017, 11:12 PM)Aion Wrote:

(10-12-2017, 10:34 PM)Dante776 Wrote: [quote='Aion' pid='234241' dateline='1507795707']
Well first off, you seem to be referring to all of this in reference to New Age and E/T styled channelers, but the concept of angels and demons is much older than all that.

The composition of angels is the same whether in ancient times or now. Remember, they're interdimensional so the same being(s) interacting with you or I in 2017 can traverse the time spectrum and interact with someone in Egypt 4,500 BC, Babylonia 2,000 BC or Greece 1,500 AD.

Quote:Second, I can buy what you are saying about a particular group or entity, but what you seem to imply is this is ALL there is, and I just don't think that is the case. For example, what about other deities such as in other pantheons and religions? What about all the forms of spirituality which have nothing to do with extra-terrestrials?

Who said they had nothing to do with extraterrestrials? On the contrary. From what I understand humanity was seeded by the Sirians. Somewhere along the way their experiment was hijacked by fallen angelics, led by the Anunnaki. ANU, ENKI and ENLIL symbolically represent a triad of gods analogous of the Universal Mind Matrix as it has manifested in various cultures and religions over millenia.

For example, the sacred Hindu triad formed by Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva is identical to Sumerian Anunnaki triad ANU, ENKI and ENLIL. Wes Penre does a great job in tracing many ancient gods to the Anunnaki triad. The Anunnaki story forms the basis of the biblical "fall of man" which led to the Luciferian rebellion and the so called "war in heaven". Their Nephalim hybrids would go on to become the ruling elite and the Illuminati. I personally believe that the Illuminati along with the Orion group and other fallen angelics are behind many spiritual attacks.

Quote:Third, I know I've already said it, but I'm not really concerned with blame either way, I just want to alleviate suffering whenever possible. However I do get the sense that this has been a particular point of grievance for you since it is one you continue to respond strongly to. I assure you my advice is not intended as any sort of blame game but is only according to my understanding of how to work upon such foreign installations. I have seen and experienced fantastical things, the universe is a strange place. Do not mistake my belief that you might be able to do something about it for blaming you for your condition. I know you were just illustrating a point, but to be clear.

Oh no, I got that really. I was just saying what exactly can you do when you've done just about everything you can do. Maybe this is something Source beings wanted me to go through. I notice that the more I push back, increase my knowledge, and post and share this information that the darker energies slowly begin to recede and lighter energies and frequencies are slowly beginning to emerge (they still have limited control of my body, however).  

Quote:Like I said before, I believe there is a group of imposters, a gestalt intelligence as you call it, that mimics and steals the identities of other entities for its own use. I can tell you it is very frustrating to be so highly misrepresented. Note, I'm not saying "positive" and "negative" or "good and evil", my description here of imposters is that of deception. Consider that in light of what you have said.

I'm in agreement with you about our reality being hijacked by certain entities. But the point I'm making is that higher dimensional beings such as Sirians, Archangels, Ascended Masters, and even the Ra Confederacy have allowed this to happen. All for the purpose of steering us along a desired path, to solidify external systems of power and control. Duality also allows us the opportunity of appreciate light because we are in darkness. This system of duality is just a game to them but to us it's very real.

Quote:Anyways, I guess you're just f***** then, eh? I can understand how you'd be exasperated.

I could always take a whack at it and see if I can do anything for your situation, but I'm not sure there'd be any point without some confidence in the attempt.

How does that work if I may ask? Also, I'm just curious, how would you know if this isn't something being directed from the higher self or oversoul level? Have you ever run into that before?

Quote:As an example, your quote from 'Michael' there. Maybe it's an entity using the name of Michael and masquerading as such in order to lead the individuals in to a false sense of security with such absolute messages? Just because an entity gives a name, doesn't mean it is the entity you think or expect it to be. Even 'Ra' says if you want to have power over an entity you use its name.

That's true, but the same can be said about the people that gave us ALL of our scriptures. After all they were just channeling certain beings in the same manner as Carla Rueckert. Which means you can say the same thing about the Ra. Anyway, let's say you're right and it's not the gestalt entity known as Archangel Michael, that still shouldn't negate the "real" Michael and all other higher celestial beings from intervening, especially when you do everything you can to call on them. Wouldn't you agree?  

Quote:Honestly I think the point where I disagree is the notion of the power dynamic between dark and light in this regard. That is to say, I actually don't think the 'higher beings' are actually as able to reign in the free will of other entities as you seem to suggest. I think that this particular point of 'comforting' has been used by those attempting to control as a ruse to lull people in to a false sense of security. I believe that Light always illuminates darkness but I think the technicalities of that are a little more complex than just a raw notion of 'power'. Notice how those channelings always measure it in terms of 'power'.

Quote:I'm going to throw a maybe crazy sounding idea out there, but what if those positive beings aren't still 'up there'? I have a belief that in an attempt to quell the spreading darkness certain entities chose to start incarnating which otherwise would not have. Maybe you have been heard, but you're not looking in the right place for the response?

You have found your way to me, afterall, and that is never a coincidence. My life is synchronistic, not coincidential.

Quote:As for how that works, there is power in formulating a consensus reality even if just among two individuals, through this mechanism you have a much better chance of countering their reality controls. Thus, with no trust, there is no working together and thus no benefit likely to be gained. Through the combination perhaps something more could be done.

Quote:Perhaps the whole experience has been something 'arranged' for you to learn something, that's not an unknown notion to me. However, that is not the sense that I get off of you. Rather it seems to me there is some significance in the fact that you have found your way here and seem to be trying to 'break free' from that reality.

Quote:I can only offer my intuitive notion that it seems that whatever is there over you doesn't 'need' to be there. I have a pretty developed intuition and I have met people where they were having issues and I was unable to do any work because of the response of their higher self. I just don't get that response from your field.

(10-13-2017, 11:02 PM)Aion Wrote: Ehhh, I'm iffy on your heavy Christian source there. I am not a Christian so I will admit I do not often agree with their descriptions and conclusions. I won't say any more to that matter. Everyone can believe what they wish.

Quote:It is true that there have been many cases of positive beings intervening, but you would also notice that a lot of the time the help comes through 'mundane' occurrences which are arranged in synchronicity. There are certain stories of people calling positive entities, however as I'm sure you're aware since you have been reading possession literature that there are cases where this only agitates the situation. The matter is pretty mixed.

Quote:The source is that big old demon standing at your back that leers over your shoulder. Your companion is good old Belphegor. He is a demon who 'helps' people 'discover things', sound familiar such as an individual seeking truth? Of course, you can't judge a demon by what is on Wikipedia, but I happen to recognize this particular fellow. He has a certain smell.

With your permission, I can hopefully detach this entity and expel it from your field. He will do everything he can to sow doubt that it is possible. Anything to disable your path, to hinder your faith in the light. No, he will insist you need him in order to be able to find the truth. You couldn't possibly find it on your own, in his point of view.

(10-14-2017, 03:47 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-13-2017, 11:02 PM)Aion Wrote: Ehhh, I'm iffy on your heavy Christian source there. I am not a Christian so I will admit I do not often agree with their descriptions and conclusions. I won't say any more to that matter. Everyone can believe what they wish.

I hear you on the Christian thing. I, like many people these days, consider myself spiritual. Although the author Dr. John Weldon is Christian, to his credit he has studied world religions at the graduate level and has a Ph.D. in comparative religion and a D.Min. with emphasis in contemporary religious movements. So, despite his personal belief system, his research has some credence.

Quote:It is true that there have been many cases of positive beings intervening, but you would also notice that a lot of the time the help comes through 'mundane' occurrences which are arranged in synchronicity. There are certain stories of people calling positive entities, however as I'm sure you're aware since you have been reading possession literature that there are cases where this only agitates the situation. The matter is pretty mixed.

I agree, which is why I've concluded that 'many' of these beings are one and the same. And that they are multidimensional forms of the Cosmic Mind Matrix or 'Logos.' In them, light and darkness is merged into one single force. As Ra says "unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being." Dr. Karla Turner talks about the methods of deception used by these beings in her book 'Masquerade of Angels' (1994).

Also, consider this excerpt from the website 'Tricked By The Light'. It supports your statement earlier about them wanting 'to use people as batteries' as told in The Matrix.

They use the scare tactics of fear and guilt to scare us into the loving arms of the manipulative "god" of light, the false light. The dark prince, Nergal/Satan, who represents evil scares the souls to go to the false Light, which is said to be good, for salvation. Fear and love, hell and heaven, dark and light. Both sides are necessary for the trick of the duality to work. The fear of judgment and punishment of hell and the devil scare people into running to the light and false god figure who offers light, love and heaven. It is the movement back and forth between the polarities that cause the electricity, the food for the archons. Electricity is caused by electrons flowing from a negative pole to a positive one: Electrons are negatively charged, and so are attracted to the positive end of a battery and repelled by the negative end. So when the battery is hooked up to something that lets the electrons flow through it, they flow from negative to positive. They use both sides of the spectrum -- both light and dark -- it's a big game of duality for them, black and white, light and dark, and we are the pawns.

Quote:The source is that big old demon standing at your back that leers over your shoulder. Your companion is good old Belphegor. He is a demon who 'helps' people 'discover things', sound familiar such as an individual seeking truth? Of course, you can't judge a demon by what is on Wikipedia, but I happen to recognize this particular fellow. He has a certain smell.

With your permission, I can hopefully detach this entity and expel it from your field. He will do everything he can to sow doubt that it is possible. Anything to disable your path, to hinder your faith in the light. No, he will insist you need him in order to be able to find the truth. You couldn't possibly find it on your own, in his point of view.

Interesting! Belphegor is one of the 7 archdemons of hell who are the evil counterparts of the 7 Archangels of heaven. Belphegor is opposite Rapheal, so if you are able to expel Belphegor, Rapheal will have a better chance to come through. So, yes by all means!

Quote:There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed and the great work goes on.

Quote:Thus we see the so-called insanity which may often arise when an entity attempts to polarize more quickly than experience may be integrated.

Dante Wrote:I know that this is beyond most people's believability threshold. But, there is a reason why I posted a black helicopter hovering above a home in the 'Law of One and Targeted Individuals' post. Because that is precisely what has happened in my case. This all started when these choppers would circle my home. This would go on periodically for months. Sometimes the chopper would come so close to my home that it felt like it was landing on my roof. They were doing some kind of 'targeted' programming on me from the chopper. Still happens from time to time. Here's the rub though! I do not think these are humans. Remember, certain beings can take on human form. Perhaps it's the Orion group, the Lizzies, Zetans, who knows for sure? The entities that are attached to me are always claiming them as their own. So, go figure.

Dante Wrote:My belief in omnipotence?! I didn't know omnipotence was a belief. I just thought it was a word. I think you get too caught up in word play/semantics. Focus on what I'm saying. All I am saying is that if there are these 'light beings' that you reference, then I'm sure that they have enough awareness (if that is an acceptable word), to know what is going on here.

Quote:66.12 Questioner: Could you tell me the other ways that the entity could seek healing?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the greatest healer is within the self and may be tapped with continued meditation as we have suggested.

Dante Wrote:So, it's not in the 'mind' or the 'body' other than what is caused by the possession.

Dante Wrote:Thanks, but I can assure you that I have NEVER accepted anything being offered to me.

Dante Wrote:I know your just being helpful but you have to stop looking at this as though it's something that "I am" or "am not" doing. Stop looking to place blame on me and place it where it belongs and that's on the beings that are doing this. I can assure you that they are reading these posts.

(10-14-2017, 05:11 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Now I shall put upon my head my other posting hat, the "I love the Law of One and I love regurgitating my interpretation of the Law of One and sharing it with others" hat. Dante, thank you for your thread. I am very sorry to hear of all of the sufferings that you have endured. As you have probably come to learn from interacting with others here already, we all have infinite tales of woe from our current lifetimes. We are united in our suffering on this plane. So, I reach my hand out to you.

Your situation is not uncommon, actually. In fact I've heard versions of your story many times from others who have come to this forum - of course, not identical, but similar stories of being targeted due to polarity, implanted, and basically disabled for a better word. It's extremely unfortunate how common of an occurrence this is and I am so very sorry.

The Law of One actually does have practical solutions to your problems. Others have tried to share these with you but their frivolity never properly conveyed the difficulty of actually applying the lessons that Ra has offered. I'll do my best to explain it in the context of the Law of One that I can. This is only a distillation of my own personal thoughts and experiences, so I apologize in advance if they are not congruent with yours.

Jade Wrote:What is polarity in the context of the Law of One? It starts in the mind, as all things originate from the mind, including the body and the spirit. Ra offers us the archetype of the Transformation of the Mind - where once must make the conscious decision to let go of the hand of the maiden of the STO path or let go of the hand of the prostitute of the STS path. This is not as easy as it can appear and can be quite daunting in fact. The problem with our third density reality, positive wanderers, and the Transformation of the Mind, is that little imp guy up in the corner:



That little imp guy makes sure that when you make a left-hand transformation, that you feel good about it. This is the great trap. When you make a right hand transformation of the mind, you are more likely to feel pain and despair, because you are moving closer in empathy to the other incarnate entities who are separated by the veil, which is an emotionally difficult place to be. Now, it's very very easy for a naive wanderer to embark down the left-hand path while incarnate and only haven partially pierced the veil, mainly because of that imp, but the problem is that once a positive wanderer begins to embark on that path, after a while the imp of protection starts to wear off because the positive higher self feels torment from the incarnate's choices, which is where a lot of confusion, frustration, and madness come from.

Now, I'm not saying that this is your path, I am just explaining the mechanics of the archetype.

Another way Ra describes this as "random holes in the energy field" that can be tapped by entities who "may or may not wish to serve", speaking of why it is important to open the indigo ray in a more dependable way. Ra also mentions how one can develop "insanity" if they try to polarize more quickly than they can integrate experience. In my opinion the clue here is that (daily) meditation is what helps us integrate our experience.

Quote:There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed and the great work goes on.

Quote:Thus we see the so-called insanity which may often arise when an entity attempts to polarize more quickly than experience may be integrated.

Jade Wrote:You speak of drawing attention because of your polarity. This is very often the case, too. A positive wanderer starts to have enough power to affect changes in their reality. Then, the tricks come - those "feel good" moments that tell you that you are doing the right thing because they "feel right" but haven't properly been examined through the lens of the Transformation of the Mind - which is, is this courting the resources of the deep mind/others or is it plundering?

Let me take an example, and I'm not trying to blame you or point a finger, this is just an example of something I see happen commonly. You mentioned how you didn't care about the polarity of the channeler or the channeled entity, that you trusted your own discernment to get valuable information out of whatever is being channeled. However, when I read Ra, or Q'uo - I feel a distinct intermingling of their energies with my own to be able to manifest their message to me. We access the channeled information from negative entities and think we can use our discernment, but we take for granted that there is a magical, energetic exchange happening when we engage with these entities. To me, this is an act of "plundering" for resources instead of courting - courting involves more internal work, meditation and self-reflection to lead to deeper truths, not outside entities who offer a quick fix.

The problem happens that when we find ourselves on a path - mainly, the path of fear, which you exhibit - every day we wake up and confirm our fears, every day we wake up and address our implants and manipulations, we are doubling that. This is shown by the triangle separating at the feet of the Conscious Mind in the tarot card. Every day you wake up and say, 'the gestalt is out to get me', you reinforce that reality. Of course, they are happy to hold your hand and guide you down that path - this is certainly not only the work of yourself. You are veiled and weakened by it and they exploit that to the fullest. But the fact is that reality is an illusion, and infinite realities can be manifested - it's those that we choose to focus on and invest our energies in that therefore manifest.

Dante Wrote:I know that this is beyond most people's believability threshold. But, there is a reason why I posted a black helicopter hovering above a home in the 'Law of One and Targeted Individuals' post. Because that is precisely what has happened in my case. This all started when these choppers would circle my home. This would go on periodically for months. Sometimes the chopper would come so close to my home that it felt like it was landing on my roof. They were doing some kind of 'targeted' programming on me from the chopper. Still happens from time to time. Here's the rub though! I do not think these are humans. Remember, certain beings can take on human form. Perhaps it's the Orion group, the Lizzies, Zetans, who knows for sure? The entities that are attached to me are always claiming them as their own. So, go figure.

Jade Wrote:I live in a highly militarized area and would not be exaggerating if I said I had helicopters fly directly over my house almost every single day. I could certainly get hysterical about them if I wanted - what are they doing? Listening? Scanning? Implanting? I can obsess about it or move on with my life. Fear generates these experiences, and fear can amplify them. One day that was a "Big Day" for me I had a man dressed in all black and sunglasses (on a snowy winter day) chase his dog into my yard and reclaim it right near my front door. I once had half a dozen uniformed military entities show up at my door with a bucket of unboxed  "smoke detectors" that they were going to install "as a gesture of safety" in multiple places in my house. I can think whatever I want about these occurrences and the discarnate entities around me will also react according to my free will chosen thoughts and distortions, and amplify them.

Dante Wrote:My belief in omnipotence?! I didn't know omnipotence was a belief. I just thought it was a word. I think you get too caught up in word play/semantics. Focus on what I'm saying. All I am saying is that if there are these 'light beings' that you reference, then I'm sure that they have enough awareness (if that is an acceptable word), to know what is going on here.

Jade Wrote:You are so very right. The lightbeings are very aware of what is happening. And they are weeping in sorrow for you. The difference between the light and the dark, is that those who are of the path of control will take every advantage and opportunity they can to influence you. Those of a positive orientation, your friends and guides, will not break your free will that way - you must invoke them, request them, ask of them - and have the will and faith to do so.

The only effective "cure" I can offer you is to wake up every morning, meditate, and reach out to your higher self/your true guides and friends, and sincerely and faithfully call to them for help. And no, it's not that easy, because basically you have to do this just as many times as you have chosen in highly influenced free will to feed into a fear based reality. And the other entities will fight, you betcha. But this is why faith is important. And daily meditation. Daily meditation is THE most important protection and healing.

Quote:

With the AFFA Affair, you have Office of Naval Intelligence, FBI, CIA, and USAF intelligence officers investigating a woman who claimed to be in psychic contact with entities that identified themselves as aliens based on Jupiter [1957]. The following is an excerpt from an article on the website OpenMinds.tv entitled Air Force Colonel’s inside look at Project Blue Book.

AH: Right, another case that intrigues me, I think that Bob Emenegger wrote about it, you know, the one about the, they called it the Affa affair, the one with the Navy Intelligence.
RF: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
AH: Can you tell me a little bit about it? You were involved in it?
RF: Yeah, yeah, what happened there was that, here is a case where one of the other agencies did indeed investigate something, OK, it was reported that a lady in Maine had been having mental contacts with foreign, or not foreign but alien elements that were at that particular time patrolling our universe, they were patrolling it because they were representatives from Uranus and Venus…
AC: A Confederation like Star Trek.
AH: Yeah, but this is before Star Trek.
RF: That’s correct, so that she had gone into trance and had she had started to write information, you know, it was supposed to being passed to her from these beings, now, this information during the investigation they said that she really and truly was putting down things that were far beyond her educational level, right, and especially in the area of technology and astronomy, so during the investigation it surfaced that she was really and truly just a communication level, and what they were willing to do was to exercise the same communication link with someone else, so one of these [Naval] officers, he said OK, and he sat there, went into a trance and lo and behold he was being exercised as a communication link, so he came back to Washington and repeated it before several people in the intelligence community and they asked some specific questions, the way, as a communications link the way it works is that the person would go into a trance and then someone else would ask a question, and he would pass these questions on and then he would get the answer, which he would write it out, OK, so they during one of these episodes asked that they be given a sign that would convince them all that this was really happening, and they were told to go to the window, they all went to the window, they looked out, whoosh, a spacecraft of some kind goes by.

Quote:66.12 Questioner: Could you tell me the other ways that the entity could seek healing?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the greatest healer is within the self and may be tapped with continued meditation as we have suggested.

Dante Wrote:So, it's not in the 'mind' or the 'body' other than what is caused by the possession.

Jade Wrote:This is one area where I think you may be confused. The interactions between the mind and the body are how we evolve the spirit - your spiritual torment in third density is not independent of the actions and balance or lack thereof of the mind and the body. In fact, Ra says most adepts are still stuck in the phase where they are initiating the mind and have not yet initiated the body. You have taken offense when others have offered the speculation that there is more that you can do to help yourself as far as the mind complex goes - this is true for all of us. We are all essentially psychotic and crazy by manufacture of planet Earth. We have taken the plundering of resources to an extreme, so initiating the mind for service is a long process.

Dante Wrote:Thanks, but I can assure you that I have NEVER accepted anything being offered to me.

Jade Wrote:So my question here is, how absolute are you with this statement? You have NEVER accepted ANYTHING offered to you? Because the positive path is the path of acceptance - acceptance of all of the crazy catalyst we have chosen to endure in this lifetime. Whether it's preventative, or a timeline that we were manipulated into - these are the experiences that we are having for the Creator, so that the Creator can know itself through the infinite myriad of experiences that are possible. Accept that, and you no longer can the neggies target the distortion of resistance/nonacceptance.

(10-09-2017, 12:51 AM)smc Wrote: REFUSE to accept what is being offered. (Close your 'hand'. The offering falls.)

Dante Wrote:Thanks, but I can assure you that I have NEVER accepted anything being offered to me. I have been trying to rid this from the time that if first started moving my foot to communicate with me.

Dante Wrote:I know your just being helpful but you have to stop looking at this as though it's something that "I am" or "am not" doing. Stop looking to place blame on me and place it where it belongs and that's on the beings that are doing this. I can assure you that they are reading these posts.

Jade Wrote:The only reason anyone has put any perceived blame upon you is YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE. I'm sorry. There's no one else to put the blame upon. I am you, you are me, the entities who are watching are also you and me. This is why everyone has attempted to assure you that you are in more control than you think - not to blame, but to try to inspire you to reach past the unworthiness that blocks your indigo ray and makes you doubt the power of your own manifestations. It's the negative greetings that make you feel helpless, that make you scoff and lash out when others tell you that you have the power to help yourself and shut them down. We aren't saying this out of speculation or attempts at minimizing what you are going through, most of us speak of these things because of direct experience with overcoming heavy oppositional forces on a regular basis.

Quote: I think you and others may be in over your heads on this one. We have to stop thinking that the Law of One applies to 'every' situation. When it comes to battling Satan, we may require greater tools for spiritual warfare!

(10-17-2017, 05:53 PM)Dante776 Wrote: I'm sorry man, but you are totally missing the point. And anyone endorsing this misses the point as well. First of all I never said anything about 'not caring about the polarity of the channeler or the channeled entity, and trusting my own discernment to get valuable information out of whatever is being channeled.' You're getting me confused for someone else.

Dante Wrote:I don't think Ashayana Deane is a fraud. I think it boils down to the knowledge, education, and comprehension level of the reader. Do I agree with every single thing she writes about. NO! However, I am able to read through the material and take what resonates with me and dismiss the rest without having to call her a fraud. If anything, some of the entities that she and people in her channeling group are channeling is what's at question. Not the channeler! Often times these entities will couch their information in the form of a space drama involving good and evil players as part of their duality based programming. That's the nature of multi-dimensional consciousness. It is not all love and light as you guys have been lead to believe and until you realize this, you will never be truly enlightened.

(10-18-2017, 01:40 AM)Zach Wrote: Dante776 , I hope you know, that there are people here that see your True intent.

Quote:This is a forum that seeks the Positive Polarity- if it is not for you.

(10-17-2017, 08:29 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: If you don't believe meditation can help you, and you don't believe polarity can help you, then I'm not sure that the Law of One can help you. Aion is very skilled so I hope he is able to help you with the forcible removal of the entities. You deserve peace and I'm sorry you haven't found it in 14 years. I will definitely continue to pray for you.

Quote:Ordinary activity. This is "temptation", which is the most common activity of the demons, and it is directed against all men. When Jesus allowed Satan to tempt him, he accepted our human condition. I will not talk about this common diabolical endeavor, because the purpose of this book is to highlight Satan's "extraordinary activity", which can take place only if God so allows.

This second category can take six different forms:

1. External physical pain caused by Satan. We know of this from many lives of the saints. We know that Saint Paul of the Cross, the Curé of Ars, Padre Pio, and many others were beaten, flogged, and pummeled by demons. This external form of persecution does riot affect the soul; therefore with this type there has never been the need for an exorcism, only for prayers. Here I will dwell only on the other types of actions that directly affect exorcists.

2. Demonic possession. This occurs when Satan takes full possession of the body (not the soul); he speaks and acts without the knowledge or consent of the victim, who therefore is morally blameless. It is the gravest and most spectacular form of demonic afflictions, and it attracts the attention of producers of movies such as The Exorcist. According to the Ritual for exorcisms, some of the signs of possession include: speaking in tongues, extraordinary strength, and revealing the unknown. The man of Gerasa is a clear Gospel example of possession. To fix a set "model" for demonic possession would be a serious mistake; the affliction runs the gamut of symptoms and severity. For instance, I have exercised two totally possessed persons who remained perfectly still and silent during the exorcism. I could cite many other examples and as many different symptoms.

3. Diabolical oppression. Symptoms vary from a very serious to a mild illness. There is no possession, loss of consciousness, or involuntary action and word. The Bible gives us many examples of oppression; one of them is job, He was not possessed, but he lost his children, his goods, and his health. The bent woman and the deaf and dumb man who were cured by Jesus were not subject to total possession, but there was a demonic presence that caused physical discomfort. Saint Paul was most certainly not possessed by a demon, but he had a demonic oppression that caused an evil affliction: "And to keep me from being too elated by the abundance of revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, to harass me" (2 Cor 12:7). There is no doubting the evil origin of the affliction.

While possessions are still relatively rare today, we exorcists run into a great number of people who have been struck by the devil in their health, jobs, or relationships. We must make it clear that to diagnose and heal an oppression-related illness is not any easier than to diagnose and cure a person afflicted by full possession. The degree of gravity may be different, but the difficulty of the diagnosis and the amount of time involved in healing are the same.

4. Diabolic obsession. Symptoms include sudden attacks, at times ongoing, of obsessive thoughts, sometimes even rationally absurd, but of such nature that the victim is unable to free himself Therefore the obsessed person lives in a perpetual state of prostration, desperation, and attempts at suicide. Almost always obsession influences dreams. Some people will say that this is evidence of mental illness, requiring the services of a psychiatrist or a psychologist. The same could be said of all other forms of demonic phenomena. Some symptoms, however, are so inconsistent with known illnesses that they point with certainty to their evil origins. Only an expert and well-trained eye can identify the crucial differences.

5. Diabolic infestation. Infestations affect houses, things, or animals. This book will only mention the topic. I merely want to state that I will never use this term when I refer to persons. I will always talk about possession, oppression, and obsession.

6. Diabolical subjugation, or dependence. People fall into this form of evil when they voluntarily submit to Satan. The two most common forms of dependence are the blood pact with the devil and the consecration to Satan.

How can we defend ourselves from all these evils? A strict interpretation of the Ritual confines the use of exorcisms only to instances of true possession. However, as I stated before, the current Ritual fails to address many occasions in which an exorcist diagnoses an evil influence. In all cases when there is no possession, the usual means to obtain grace should be sufficient. These means are prayer; the sacraments; almsgiving; leading a Christian life; pardoning offenses; and soliciting the aid of our Lord, Mary, the saints, and the angels. I will now say a few words about the angels. I gladly end this chapter on the devil, Christ's adversary, by speaking about the angels. They are our great allies. We owe them a great debt, and it is a mistake to mention them as rarely as we do. Every one of us has a guardian angel, most faithful of friends twenty-four hours a day, from conception to death. He unceasingly protects us, body and soul, while we, for the most part, never think about him. We also know that each nation has its particular guardian angel and, probably, every community and family, although we are not certain on the two last points. We know, however, that the angels are a multitude, and their desire to help us is much greater than Satan's desire to destroy us.

(10-21-2017, 02:55 PM)loostudent Wrote: Dante, this is an excerpt from a book An Exorcist Tells His Story by G. Amarth, who was a chief exorcist of Catholic Church. Maybe you can find some useful points.

Ordinary activity. This is "temptation", which is the most common activity of the demons, and it is directed against all men. When Jesus allowed Satan to tempt him, he accepted our human condition. I will not talk about this common diabolical endeavor, because the purpose of this book is to highlight Satan's "extraordinary activity", which can take place only if God so allows...

Quote:Enactation being less in most Human Beings serving the Light, Divine Heart, all Reptilian Hard Mantles but a minority receiving Divine Heart mid-2012 and being transformed into Human Beings towards the end of 2012, the expression of each Human Being on Planet Earth enriched by his/her respective twelve shamanics in order to facilitate his/her respective mission is still such that Divinity and True Truth within understood context has prevailed throughout time, Hatred’s, Envy’s and natural Overbearingness’ worst, best, efforts notwithstanding...

The members of the Light in this struggle until the end of 2012 were also Enactated by the Reptilians of Old but over-ride of their actions was constantly provided either by their connection to their parents (Suns, Heavens and Other Members of the Higher Realms, remember “Our Father Who art in Heaven”, it is meant literally) providing them with relative privilege or through their connection with Divine Providence via their respective Akhashik records, unless serious sabotage and subversion were deployed which usually required prior surgical intervention...

In the meantime, back here in the Heart of the Crown Jewel all who possibly can HEAVE DISPRESPECT upon this Reality from whichever corner of another Universe are doing so, usually through the Higher Realms Beings which find themselves interlaced throughout all of Reality in a way that makes their connection network practically seamless, “boundlessness” courtesy of Hyperboling from Reality to Reality, sometimes, albeit rarely, having themselves transformed between Forms of Beings in order to escape detection, on readily available Intricates usually unaware of serving as spring-boards also being an issue, on their “own” terms – hardly for they are nearly ALL themselves SUBVERTED in one way or another - so as to either partake in the “Gifts from Heaven” without any need for criteria for Self, Self be seriously wont, or to control ALL.

From 'Gaia, the Blue Planet, Planet Earth, The Crown Jewel of Realities' http://humansarefree.com/2014/06/gaia-blue-planet-planet-earth-crown.html

(10-24-2017, 10:10 PM)Dante776 Wrote: The tentacles of the Orion group reach far and wide.

Quote:In light of new information that has come to us in recent years regarding STS DNA harvesting beings, we have to look at the 'demonic' possession phenomenon differently than we have in the past.

Quote:When we view this phenomenon through the prism of the Ra Material (STS/STO), we get a better understanding of why certain individuals are targeted by 'dark' forces, some more so than others. This not to frighten anyone, but to help us to be better informed about the forces that we are up against in our Reality.

Quote:By this time, it may seem to you that psychic greetings were really occupying our time. You would be right. As Jim and Ra both say, it is easier to be noticed when you’re standing in a spotlight. Metaphysically, the contact with those of Ra was a blinding cynosure. Although we continued to be obscure and completely anonymous in any earthly sense, we had become very noticeable to “the loyal opposition.” (Carla)

Quote:101.8 Questioner: Thank you. Could Ra give information on any way that we could give information to Greta Woodrew as to how to alleviate her present condition of swelling?

Ra: I am Ra. We may only suggest that the honor of propinquity to light carries with it the Law of Responsibility. The duty to refrain from contumely, discord, and all things which, when unresolved within, make way for workings lies before the instrument of which you speak.

(10-17-2017, 09:09 PM)Aion Wrote: Dante, I am going to push and purge, but it is you who must be ready for reality to change, for miracles to happen and magic to take place. It can only be done through the connection to that self that creates realities itself. The change will happen in your own field and in your own body.

(10-11-2017, 12:20 PM)777 Wrote: My apologies, I brought up Cassiopeians because your comments on the 4D+ dark aliens are quite similar to what Laura and her material say. She and the channeled entities also refer to reptilians as "Lizzies," which I didn't think was widely used outside of that context.

(11-09-2017, 06:53 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-11-2017, 12:20 PM)777 Wrote: My apologies, I brought up Cassiopeians because your comments on the 4D+ dark aliens are quite similar to what Laura and her material say. She and the channeled entities also refer to reptilians as "Lizzies," which I didn't think was widely used outside of that context.

The term 'Lizzies' was actually coined by the Pleiadians. In their Book 'Bringers of the Dawn' they state, "We call them the Lizzies because we like to make things a little less emotional and a little humorous so that you don't take them so seriously and get so upset."

(10-13-2017, 09:11 PM)Dante776 Wrote: Do We Really Understand Demon Possession?

The following excerpt is from article entitled "Meditation – The Possibility of Spirit Possession" by Dr. John Weldon.

Because of modern reluctance to deal forthrightly and responsibly with the category of the demonic, meditation is one of the common methods available for becoming possessed by spirits who are really demons. Endless numbers of gurus, psychics, mediums, other occultists, and even scholarly authorities testify to this. For example, Dr. Weldon’s Ph.D. dissertation researched over 30 different Hindu and Buddhist gurus, and every one had been spirit-influenced or possessed, apparently during their meditative practices.

Furthermore, the spirits themselves endorse New Age meditation. The books the spirits dictate through their human mediums enthusiastically recommend meditative practices as a means to contact them. For example, Ruth Montgomery, a former hard-nosed, skeptical news­paper reporter who eventually became a medium, has single-handedly interested millions of people in the spirit world through more than a dozen books inspired or dictated by her spirit guides.

Sai Baba (1926-2011) was one of the most popular of contemporary Indian spiritual teachers (gurus). When Sai Baba was either 13 or 14 years of age, for two months his family thought he became possessed by a demon and tried to get it exorcised from him!

On September 5, 2001, on the fourth anniversary of her death, the Archbishop of Calcutta, Henry D'Souza, revealed that Mother Teresa had an exorcism performed on her while she was hospitalized in 1997. Because the Roman Catholic Church performs exorcisms only when someone is believed to be possessed by the devil, the world was shocked by such a disclosure.

"When the person is being attacked by the devil and there is some evidence of that, it's further indication that the person has a very special holiness and therefore, a very special object of attack by Satan," he said. "So it will not hurt her process at all." As to the exorcism, D'Souza says it indicates Mother Teresa was a supremely holy figure, even in the devil's eyes.

Jim Morrison, the frontman of America’s most successful band in the 60’s, admitted that he had to drink “to silence the constant voices of the demons” (James Riordin, “Break on Through: The Life and Death of Jim Morrison,” p. 23). The Door’s photographer, Frank Lisciandro, stated that,“Jim drank to quiet the ceaseless clamor of the demons, ghosts and spirits. He drank because there were demons and voices and spirits shouting inside of his head and he found that one of the ways to quell them was with alcohol”

“Brian Wilson hears voices. They talk to him. They frighten him, distract him, confuse him…the voices are calling. His eyes roll toward the ceiling; they’ve gone blank. His brow is furrowed with thick worry lines. He is silent. Gone. He looks up, jerks his head back and forth for a few seconds, as if physically shaking away the voices” Former Warner Brother Records President, Larry Waronker, claims to have met at least five different entities possessing Brian Wilson’s body (Rolling Stone, August, 1988, p. 51-52).

Carlos Santana has his own personal demon-god named, “Metatron.” Here is another disturbing excerpt from Rolling Stone magazine...“Metatron is an angel. Santana has been in regular contact with him since 1994. Carlos will sit here facing the wall, the candles lit. He has a yellow legal pad at one side, ready for the communications that will come. 'It's kind of like a fax machine,' he says” (Cover Story: The Epic Life of Carlos Santana: Santana: Rolling Stone (March 16, 2000).

Ozzy Osborne admitted, “I’ve got many, many demons that affect me on many, many levels” (Harry Shaw, “Ozzy Talking,” p. 126). Ozzie further admitted, “I remember sitting through the Exorcist a dozen times, saying to myself, ‘Yeah, I can relate to that” (Hit Parader, Nov. 1984, p. 49).

Jimi Hendrix was demon possessed...literally. He even admitted it to a number of individuals and begged his girlfriend for help (her mother was adept in voodoo exorcism). See the excellent video, They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll for more documentation. One of Jimi's girlfreinds had this to say:

"He used to always talk about some devil, or something that was in him, and he didn't have any control over it. He didn't know what made him act the way he acted and what made him say the things he said and the songs and different things that just came out of him. He'd say "I don't know what has come over me. I can't understand it". You know he used to just grab his hair or something or pull his hair or stand in the mirror or cry or something. Oh lord, it was so sad when he would cry. He was maybe the first man, or maybe the only man that I've ever seen cry, you know but it just killed me when he cried. It seems like to me that he was tormented and just torn apart and like he was obsessed with something really evil. And he said, "You know like you're from Georgia," you know he said, "I should know how, you know, people drive demons out". He  actually thought about, you know, if we ever go, because I used to talk about my grandmother and all her weird stuff, you know, and he used to talk about us going down there and having some root lady or somebody see if she could drive this demon out of him."

Truth is Love. Love is Truth. Truth unites. Lies divide. Embrace Truth. Care for Truth.

(11-10-2017, 05:10 PM)Glow Wrote: This is the saddest thing I have read in a while. I'm not sure if you saw the thread I started called "what causes a hole in the aura..." but just before that thread started I had my first negative greeting since awakening that I am conscious of. It clearly entered my body for a brief time, less than a minute but it was distinct. I'm going to guess a lot of my youth was spent tormented by things of such nature but I just thought it was a result of my childhood breaking me so never would have thought entity/energy. I had a raging case of ocd with lots of horrible thoughts... suicidal wishes, self harm, and just unbridled terror, its interesting in retrospect to see I was unaware I was perhaps being effected by outside forces.

Anyways I just wanted to post to thank you for sharing. I never would have believed it if I hadn't felt it, and I even today only 2 weeks later needed a reminder. I really need to do more for those affected.

I will continue reading, I wish you well and dominion free and clear of your own energy/body/spirit. Be well.