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RE: The elephant in the room. - xise - 05-30-2013 (i) “You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.” Ra, 1.6, http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?c=Law+Of+One Suppositions: (1) Every thing is either partially or fully compromised of love (2) However, even for things partially compromised of love, the love portion is infinite and not fixed (3) Any thing, any emotion, any event, any situation contains infinity, and specifically infinite love. However similar to mathematics, not all infinites are of the same size (http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/9269/description/Small_Infinity_Big_Infinity) )(as an aside I think countable and noncountable infinities also is involved in all of this but I’m not sure how yet and I’ll leave it to another day) (4) Those that have chosen the service to others path have chosen to explore the larger love infinites, and the smaller fear infinites (love/fear are interrelated) (5) Those that have chosen the service to self have chosen to explore the larger fear infinities, and the smaller love infinites The way I put this into a more thinkable framework is try to think all the reasons you love something easily lovable and then try to think of all the reasons you can find love in something hard to love, let’s say for the purposes of this mental exercise: (1) Easily lovable: Let’s say your spirit guide (2) Hard to love: Let’s say Adolf Hitler Obviously, we're not using actions, we're using people, but baby steps as I explain these infinities (since ultimately it was the discussion about loving "actions" - not people- that brought up much of the discussion between myself and Adonai - because for some reason I myself found it much easier to love other selves in their entirety than purely actions such as murder). I propose that the list of reasons to love each is infinite. However, it is harder and takes longer to find each reason with respect to Hitler as opposed to your spirit guide – that is another way I conceptualize that the infinites are of different sizes. Another way also to think of it is that the reasons to love both are infinite, but the reasons to love your spirit guide are more varied, whereas the reasons to love Hitler are more nuanced – I believe this also corresponds somewhat to mathematical exploration of infinites of different sizes. To put this into more practice in the same "action-only" examples I used earlier in this thread, recall that I could find reasons to love murder, in three basic categories (1) aid in balancing the unbalanced individual (2) aid in service to self polarization (3) aid in learning about love/forgiveness for the victim. I could come up with an infinite number of permutations of those three basic lessons – I could imagine and infinite amount of unique scenarios where those three things after a murder could come into play. Thus, in that actual sense, there is an infinite amount of love, even in that moment. Perhaps the infinite is smaller than the love involved in say the birth of a child (where one could easily come up with more than three broad categories of why to love it, and then infinitely subdivide each category with specific examples as well), but it is infinite nonetheless. I got started thinking about this theory when I started examining my own theories about how timelines are always infinite, but there are portions which may be more or less fixed. For example, many of us have things so unchangeable in our life with the current technology that the only way for our reality to change is to have some sort of improbable event – for example – I truly believe that our consciousness in other realities are exploring different paths, and in one reality I am a dictator, another a saint. However, let’s consider the reality of me becoming a dictator. It is possible for me to enter a timeline where I become a dictator, but I’m 32, so that timeline would have involved me becoming a dictator at 32 or later (barring an improbably technology like timetravel). There are still an infinite amount of ways or timelines that I could become a dictator at the age of 32 or older, but that infinity set is smaller than the infinite possibilities of me becoming a dictator from age 1. Thus in conclusion, I can say in a sense, I love every situation, in its entirety, because every thing contains infinite love, but I can still rationally decide or prefer the situations that involves the larger infinity of love. At least, that makes sense to my rather recently awakened and ever immature 3d mind. Perhaps this creates a hierarchy of infinities, which smacks of some service to self ranking, I don’t know. But theoretically and practically speaking, you can always find endless reasons to love, but sometimes finding those reasons are of a more narrow (yet infinite) scope in some situations, rather than others. Perhaps once you join with unity, all of the seemingly different sizes of infinities will resolve themselves, I do not know. Did I mention that I can’t wait for the end of 5d?? Mad kudos to whomever had the patience to read through these random musings! okokokok time to move back to the heart already!!! RE: The elephant in the room. - AnthroHeart - 05-30-2013 (05-30-2013, 06:18 AM)Not Sure Wrote: I think you may not like 6th as much as you think Gemini, but you WILL like 5th(based on my experience) once you get the hang of how it works. SOOOoooOOoooOOOooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much. That is all. Is it because 5th is a free density where you have more freedom, and 6th density is a lot of work in the balancing of love/light? RE: The elephant in the room. - ChickenInSpace - 05-30-2013 Xise: I believe hard/easy to love is just a perspective. My initial reaction was that I love Adolf so much for providing such intense catalyst for learning. More than so many others before him. While hijacked, he was an important step to changing the world to what we have today. I can find my higher self to be harder to love because my higher self is excruciatingly obstinate and laughs exactly all the time. To live close to the higher self is to invite the idea that everything is subject to change and that is fine. In the physical incarnation this can cause troubles when the higher self takes over and spills a few words, leaving yourself empty of retort. In the end I still love both equally for what they give me. People who chainsaw other people to death will recieve my love as well. Although I'm greatly saddened the lessons turn out the way they do (but glad of the sadness, it's wonderful to experience). RE: The elephant in the room. - xise - 05-30-2013 Thank you for your reply Chicken. I should have made it clearer that the proof, though general, was focused around the concept of loving actions in their entirety. If you could list some examples of loving actions in their entirety, as opposed to people/entities, in your own personal experience, it would greatly help my understanding I believe. But in any case, thank you for your thoughts!! RE: The elephant in the room. - Infinite Unity - 03-05-2019 You have never loved any other identity Then The Creator. It is all that exists. Once one sees "giving equal to receiving" as Ra puts it. You are more and more Being The Creator, Living and choosing more and more as The Creator. That actually Love flows like a river, and judgments, hierarchies, and in general tick-for-tack thinking causes a damning of those waters of Love. That the wind driving your sails are crafted from your own intentions, desires, choices/interactions. That your ship is on Infinite waters, and the sun is always shining. RE: The elephant in the room. - flofrog - 03-05-2019 (05-30-2013, 08:34 PM)xise Wrote: Thank you for your reply Chicken. I should have made it clearer that the proof, though general, was focused around the concept of loving actions in their entirety. If you could list some examples of loving actions in their entirety, as opposed to people/entities, in your own personal experience, it would greatly help my understanding I believe. Xise, I really loved your suppositions 1 to 5, and once having read them, and thought a little about them, [ as a frog I refrain thinking too long about anything ] I found that is is really close to how I see or feel this to be. Particularly the conclusion of 4 and 5. Because I am a bit daft, I am not sure what you refer as the concept of loving actions in their entirety, but I shall try for an exemple. About more than thirty years ago, I was working in NY and had a friend there, a lovely woman, who was the wife of a colleague. We used to have dinner together, as a four with my boyfriend, then she parted from her spouse, got divorced, moved to Chicago. She used to call me on the phone, sometimes not very articulate, as she loved white wine. I was myself drinking a glass or two every evening, but had started to be cautious about it as I hated getting drunk, and could get drunk real easily. So we got on the phone once, and she was adamant she wanted to stop drinking, but was scared to go to an AA meeting. I had read recently that one of the urges of the body for wine was attraction to sugar, so I said to her perhaps she might try before each meal to reach for some grapes, and see if that amount of sugar would let her off the urge to drink wine. We called each other regularly [ email didn't exist yet ] and in the end strangely enough, it worked. We lost track of each other about two years later. I am not sure if this is what you would call a loving action in its entirety. The sure thing is that in the end, it definitely was efficient for me too, as I was happy that, what was really a bit of a lark, had seemed to work, so I was enormously happy for her, so that made me happy, and then I, in fact much later on, used it on myself as one day I stopped drinking on a regular basis, and it helped me too, so it ended by being of service to me ! Gosh this is a long post, mostly about my little person, and I don't even know if it addresses what you are looking for Xise... I would be interested though to understand what you are looking for, and read other exemples.... lol RE: The elephant in the room. - xise - 03-07-2019 So I wrote the earlier posts about 6 years ago. I would daresay that my current thoughts would be somewhat/fairly different than what I originated posted. In short, I would say I think you love it all. I can't really describe the reasoning other than once your infinite consciousness starts to recognize itself as the infinity everywhere, all distinctions become meaningless. There is love everywhere, in everything, every emotion, situation, and time. It will be interesting to see how differently I feel about this 6 more years from now. |