(06-09-2015, 04:34 AM)Indigo Light Wrote: I am in a wanderer-wanderer relationship=)

(06-07-2015, 03:32 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: Besides, I love how Ra answers the followup:

Quote:89.40 Questioner: What was the attitude of these two entities after they graduated into fourth-density negative and, the veil being removed, they realized that they had switched polarities?

Ra: I am Ra. They were disconcerted.

Sometimes I suspect Ra has a very dry\deadpan sense of humor.  Either way, I feel like the Wanderers in question must have made a deliberate decision to remain negative since, having recalled what they used to be, they must have been in a position to decide which "path" to head down in their future work.

(06-16-2015, 08:18 PM)Indigo Light Wrote: Yes the sto path is the path of sacrifice. To sacrifice to flow into Infinity.

(06-12-2015, 02:13 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Penetrating the veil to me was openning myself to suffering which I was scared of, my veil was lifted (mostly) when I found beauty in feeling another's pain. 

Then I saw the world for the first time in such a long time, this world is beautiful, this world is light and love, this Universe is light and love. We all are marvelous beautiful souls, each of us and everything around us.

Not one day in this human life had I truly seen how great this world is, nor remembered how great this whole beautiful Octave is.

Sincerely love you all, the STO path is hard and very very troublesome but god it is beautiful.

(08-10-2011, 12:05 PM)godwide_void Wrote: As is well known to all of us there exists in place the necessary veil which - causing us to forget that we are all individuated aspects of one grand Creator - allows the mechanisms of Free Will to function by giving us a purity of experience for our life experiences so that we may ultimately learn and polarize on the path towards penultimate unity. Were there no veil in place the game would be far too easy for everyone, and there would ultimately be no propensity for mistakes (learning opportunities) and our own choosings.

Now, when one speaks of "piercing the veil" what does it truly mean? I mean, if you consider simply knowing that we are all Creator and various other facets of the LOO and existence then one could say that every single person who frequents this forum and reads through the Law of One has pierced the veil just from reading this information source beingness! But this is not the case, as I'm sure that there are many (including myself) who, while being keenly aware of the Law of One, can sometimes stray. So if just knowing it isn't piercing the veil fully, then what is?

I think I might have pierced the veil personally; I say this because somehow I am able to know exactly WHY every experience I have from now on occurs, and I can gather the exact lesson I am trying to be shown, and I also am 95% certain that I know full well WHY I incarnated here and my mission (which day by day I am doing what I can to work towards). I also feel I am very in tune with the Universe... for example, by simply willing or desiring a small breeze on a particularly hot day I am given the breeze in that instant, I never have to wait for the traffic lights to change anymore when I cross the street, trains and buses will come the instant I get there, etc. Just small things that are little signs that are telling me "you indeed do exert influence over your own dream of life".

Day by day it feels like more and more data and understanding is downloaded into my head as I am coming more to terms with what is meant by truly seeing yourself and all other selves as "Creator". I don't know, what are all of your opinions?

Namaste

(08-16-2011, 06:39 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:

(08-15-2011, 10:40 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(08-15-2011, 10:19 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: What I mean by "same place" is the place where we exist without the veil. If there is such a place, why would anyone choose to enter into a place with the veil under the guise that the veil somehow facilitates our journey to the place where there is no veil? It doesn't seem like a conscious decision anyone would make without being forced to do it.

It seems that you are reducing conditions of being to 'places', and further those places to some kind of duality - that place that has a veil and that place that doesn't. However, evolution is like an upward spiral conducted by an infinitely unique consciousness - it's not 'there' and 'here' because neither of those things exist other than as logical abstraction. Although this existence does tend to reinforce that notion and many other concepts that have to do with limitation of thought and being. (I am thankful for that) Non-veiled existence is just another way to learn about self with a different set of tools for utilizing spirit.

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This is where you can get to know yourself up close and personal, in a very real manner. It's here that we also lay the groundwork for what we have offered and have to enjoy 'without the veil'.

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Also, "The lack of awareness of the body’s need for liquid is unlikely without the veil", so don't forget to hydrate.

Yes, I am reducing. I am reducing for the clarity of this discussion. We cannot transcend the veil when discussing the veil. The veil isn't some magical godsend for helping us. It's a condition.

"This is where you can get to know yourself up close and personal, in a very real manner. It's here that we also lay the groundwork for what we have offered and have to enjoy 'without the veil'." <-- This is logical abstraction as well. It is formulated in the mind. It is a creation to help oneself cope with oneself.

After noticing how many times the mind is repeating, it looks more like beliefs are all abstractions of reality. Illusion*?