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RE: Islam and Ra - Patrick - 04-27-2021

(04-26-2021, 11:04 PM)meadow-foreigner Wrote: Amusing.

Your bozo aims to please! Wink


RE: Islam and Ra - Patrick - 04-27-2021

@Jafar

Jon was not poor to begin with. He should have listened to his heart. He learned to do just that now. Good for him.


RE: Islam and Ra - jafar - 04-27-2021

(04-27-2021, 06:34 AM)Patrick Wrote: @Jafar

Jon was not poor to begin with. He should have listened to his heart. He learned to do just that now. Good for him.

Yes as we all need to experience the contrast.
Need to experience darkness in order to recognize the light.

Poverty <-> Wealthy is not the issue.
Happy <-> Unhappy is the issue.
Some choose the path of 'less needs' some others choose the path of 'more needs to be fulfilled' in order to pursue happiness.


RE: Islam and Ra - Dtris - 04-28-2021

(04-26-2021, 08:11 PM)Patrick Wrote:
(04-26-2021, 04:13 PM)Dtris Wrote: Why do you think that poverty is something that needs to be solved?...

Because they are crying for help. Poverty is not a lack of wealth. It is an imbalance in red-ray. It is a perceived lack as well as a real lack.

If you cannot sleep because you are too cold. You need a blanket. It would be very surprising that you would manage to change your perception enough to be ok with that situation. It's not impossible, but it is unlikely. It is more likely that you will want a blanket until you get one.

There is a big perception component to poverty. But I think we can work on both aspects: the perception of lack AND the proper distribution of resources too.


(04-26-2021, 04:13 PM)Dtris Wrote: ...And what makes you so arrogant to think that it would be solved if people "just listened"...

When a politician comes along and proposes real solutions for this, they are not elected and are barely taken seriously. Yet voting for these people would change our world for the better. In order for this to happen, people just needs to listen to their heart. The answers are there. It's not arrogance from my point of view, it's just compassionate-wisdom.


(04-26-2021, 04:13 PM)Dtris Wrote: ...
"It is easier for a camel to walk thru the eye of the needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven."
...

This talks of greed which is not the same type of imbalance. Greed is not red-ray imbalance. It's a blockage in orange and yellow.


(04-26-2021, 04:13 PM)Dtris Wrote: ...
Many children in first world countries would gladly trade all their wealth and toys for the family to still be intact.

While wealth can free you from struggling to survive, that doesn't help people who have incarnated to learn lessons about survival. We choose the manner and environment and major life events before incarnation, if this experience was no longer desired on earth, it would already be solved.

You seem to be forgetting that people like me are answering the call from those entities whom are ready to move past those type of lessons.

Or are you proposing that it would be solved magically in an instant as soon as it's no longer needed?

If so then I wouldn't be here talking about it and instead we would be discussing stuff like what is the best way to organize the future internal memory structure of our nascent social memory complex. But we can't skip any steps and we need to address stuff like how to properly distribute resources first.

People program their own experience. No matter what you or anyone else does, poverty will be experienced by those who desire it. This is why war in the middle east has never ceased. The people of that region perpetuate the wars and the hatred and the conditions that lead to war.

No matter how much external power tried to bring peace to the middle east it has not worked. Only the people in that situation can change it. Same goes for poverty, or wealth, or anything else. YOU do not get to decide how other people live there lives, even if it breaks your heart to see how they live. Service that is not asked for is not service. Provide what people ask for. When they are ready, they will solve their own problems.


RE: Islam and Ra - Patrick - 04-28-2021

(04-28-2021, 10:00 AM)Dtris Wrote: People program their own experience. No matter what you or anyone else does, poverty will be experienced by those who desire it. This is why war in the middle east has never ceased. The people of that region perpetuate the wars and the hatred and the conditions that lead to war.

No matter how much external power tried to bring peace to the middle east it has not worked. Only the people in that situation can change it. Same goes for poverty, or wealth, or anything else. YOU do not get to decide how other people live there lives, even if it breaks your heart to see how they live. Service that is not asked for is not service. Provide what people ask for. When they are ready, they will solve their own problems.

I am not here to fix it. Those wishing to experience lack of essentials will do so.

My service is providing inspiration for those seeking such inspiration. I am talking about how we could evolve to a moneyless society. I am not out there putting it in place where people wants to continue suffering by choice.

So there are people ready now in some places. While they are solving their problems themselves, they search for ideas and inspiration. I am not attached to the final form that the solution will take for those wishing it.

All I am doing is giving examples of what that might look like. Then politicians and economists might be inspired by such and present those ideas in their platforms, when enough people are ready to move past the lessons of suffering, they'll vote for those ideas.

Yes it does break my heart to see all the suffering, particularly from those whom are ready to move past it while not knowing how to even begin.

Jesus did not come here to force people to love each others, he came because he was called. People were calling for that service. That is all wanderers can do.


RE: Islam and Ra - jafar - 05-14-2021

(04-01-2021, 09:54 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: There's something seriously wrong with the black cube thing at Mecca or Medina.

Found an interesting documentary where the author, based on archeological evidence, believe that the city of Mohammad was originally in Petra. It also provide a possible explanation why it was later changed to Mecca.



Having said that, Petra, a city carved on a rocky mountain is a magnificent place by itself.