(12-22-2011, 01:44 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: The Winter Solstice of 2011 has just passed 14 minutes ago, either we've all been harvested or we've got another year to go.

(12-22-2011, 02:13 AM)godwide_void Wrote:

(12-22-2011, 01:44 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: The Winter Solstice of 2011 has just passed 14 minutes ago, either we've all been harvested or we've got another year to go.

Quick, someone try making a thread telepathically and send it to every Bring4th member, let's see if a random topic box pops up in our minds. Let's test if 4D has sufficiently creeped its way in already.

(12-22-2011, 02:37 AM)turtledude23 Wrote:

(12-22-2011, 02:13 AM)godwide_void Wrote:

(12-22-2011, 01:44 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: The Winter Solstice of 2011 has just passed 14 minutes ago, either we've all been harvested or we've got another year to go.

Quick, someone try making a thread telepathically and send it to every Bring4th member, let's see if a random topic box pops up in our minds. Let's test if 4D has sufficiently creeped its way in already.

It probably takes at least several hundred years for a social memory complex to form, we're going to have to stick to smoke signals for now.

(12-21-2011, 12:02 PM)Tyler Durden Maybe Wrote: Sure there are: From NYC head Due North, directly over the North Pole, then South on the other side of the Earth over the Asian Continent and over the South Pole, then head North over South America and Central America until you hit LA. That's like 50% North the entire trip.

(12-16-2011, 08:27 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: All I -ever- said to this particular point was that I see a possibility that it might be possible for a wanderer to live a simultaneous existence in 3D and 4D, and be able to pass their consciousness between worlds much as one does when passing from the waking to the dream state.

(12-11-2011, 12:35 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: The author seems to be dubious about this Pleiadian woman's claims despite the fact that he actually was able to confirm many of them on his own.

Quote:Questioner: Have you had much contact with Pleiadian entities?

Carla: I have worked with people who have been channeling the Pleiades. I have not accepted that contact.

Questioner: Have you turned it away?

Carla: Yes.

Questioner: Why? Is that a personal question?

Carla: No. It is a question having to do with my judgment that the contact is mixed.

Questioner: Yes. That fits with what we’ve heard about the Pleiades. There are different purposes at work coming from that system.

Questioner: Could someone speak to what they are? I’ve never heard of it.

Questioner: The Pleiadians are a star formation, aren’t they?

Questioner: Yes! And it’s one of the oldest civilizations in the galaxy. Aaron gave some talks about how a lot of our culture was seeded from the Pleiades and that a lot of us came from the Pleiades.

Carla: It’s very strong energy, but it’s also capable of a good bit of delusion.

Questioner: Can you pick and choose?

Carla: I don’t think you can as well, once you accept contact. You’re going to get what you get.

Barbara: Last spring Aaron talked about the Pleiades, but I have not yet seen the transcripts from that. Does anybody know what he said? Does anybody remember? Can you share a little bit with us?

Questioner: As I best recall, the Pleiadians were a very ancient civilization that was made up, not of one race, but of many different kinds of beings who came together—physical beings and non-physical beings like water beings, air beings, more ethereal beings. And they had a governing council made up of beings who were incarnate and discarnate. That council and those beings were aware of the distortions that were happening on Earth due to extraterrestrial contact with the Earth—negatively polarized contact. And there was a debate about whether or not to intervene.

So, some of the beings from the council (it is not a governing council but a voluntary council, like a service group) came to Earth. They came, not as incarnate beings, but as shape changers, which is a way of simulating incarnation here in the physical but being able to leave at will and not be subject to the karma here. So, they were hoping that by simulating the negatively polarized extraterrestrials, they could give a different message of love instead of a negative one of fear. But what they didn’t realize was that by taking the form of these negative beings, they had to copy them so precisely that they had the capability to even emulate the emotional body to such an extent they could not separate from the negative polarity as well.

Thus, they fell into negativity because they also, despite their very good intentions, had a very small amount of mixed motivations or negativity within them. They were very loving beings with very good intentions, but they overestimated their own ability and their own need to learn from the negative half to understand negativity within them. So eventually many of them took incarnation. And as the years and incarnations went by, many of the lessons from their civilization became seed-points of our own great civilization. They were bringers of culture and light.

So, they came to teach, but also ended up coming to learn, and many are still here working out their karma. There is still contact going on from the Pleiades, as Aaron has told us, but there is still a debate about this contact and whether beings from other planets should actively intervene.

This was an echo of previous history in which the makers of Earth had seen the negative contact with their creations—the people of Earth—and they tried to protect them somehow, not trusting people’s ability to learn from this negative contact. And this protectiveness by these beings who founded Earth became itself a negative catalyst; and further … yes! … it was the birth of fear on Earth!

This was long before the Pleiadians saw the contact of extraterrestrials, which was far more negative by then. So, now I think some of the contact that Carla is talking about is some of these beings come to do good, but not to intervene. There is a law or agreement not to come to Earth unless it is by incarnation. But what about those beings who do not follow the law? Do you enforce control or allow those beings to go ahead with breaking this law?

Barbara: Aaron says two things. He says, “Thank you!” to you. (I’m paraphrasing here.) He’s saying that there is a force field of sorts around the Earth. They cannot use fear. They use love as the energy of this force field to prevent encroachment by negative energy. There’s a force field of love which prevents highly negative energy from encroaching, because they’re repelled by this force field. But energies such as the Pleiadians are not negatively polarized, simply, in Aaron’s viewpoint, have misunderstanding that the end justifies the means, and thus have intervened rather than trusting and having faith in those on Earth to work it out on their own; but they are not repelled by the force field because they are positively polarized beings. That is all.

(01-13-2012, 01:36 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: "Ships" will land and long before the end of 2012. None will be negative of nature, for two reasons. Firstly, as per the reason mentioned, since our great Mother is activating fourth density positive, those of negative vibration are no longer able to withstand the high vibration. It was only during the lower third density vibration that they were able, and Earth fully resides in fourth density light at this time. Secondly, the quarantine was strengthened/enforced in the late 1990's and continues unbroken.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The number is approximate due to an heavy influx of those birthed at this time due to an intensive need to lighten the planetary vibration and thus aid in harvest. The number approaches sixty-five million.

(01-13-2012, 02:34 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: Once the indigo is open and the mind/body/spirit is in consort with higher self, Creation is manifest. With enough positive entities manifesting the same outcome, it is so guaranteed.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The number is approximate due to an heavy influx of those birthed at this time due to an intensive need to lighten the planetary vibration and thus aid in harvest. The number approaches sixty-five million.

That was the number thirty years ago. The number is considerably greater now due to the ongoing harvest.

(01-13-2012, 06:26 PM)hogey11 Wrote: I meant to choose my words more carefully. I totally understand that we are always 'on the clock' and are never truly shielded from karma. I was recalling either a Q'uo reading or a 3rd party channel that I resonated with that claimed most of the souls born past the 'harmonic convergence' date were more-or-less 'great souls' who had been waiting in non-incarnational space waiting for harvest and allowing those still in the quagmire to continue to attempt to make a choice. In short, those born past 1987 have largely incarnated in order to be present for the harvest. I would argue there would be some protections in place by the higher self to ensure this conclusion, but I also understand that polarity shifts can happen to the best of them. I just don't want to abandon the thought due to the exception existing, i guess...

(01-13-2012, 06:26 PM)hogey11 Wrote: The other thing that i'm thinking of in relation to this is how Ra was quite unsure about the planets positive harvest while Q'uo has reassured us Ra was off-mark on their predictions. I don't think Ra could necessarily know the amount of 'great souls' that might come over the next 30 years, and judging from the population growth curve, we're in the midst of a spike of all spikes.

(01-13-2012, 06:26 PM)hogey11 Wrote: I don't mean to downplay the importance of making the decisions that you are required to make in our lives. I think we will each have to make the decision to ascend at some point. I am more speaking to the idea of people being 'ready' or not; I think so many of us are trapped in the illusion, but the first ray of light the pierces the veil is going to wake a LOT of people up. These people are what I think constitute the 'great souls' (obviously with those who are already involved already with the changing of the world). This is just my own little crackpot theory tho