(02-23-2021, 12:37 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote:

(02-23-2021, 12:27 AM)MrWho Wrote: The 5% is better understood as teach/learn.

Can you elaborate?

(02-23-2021, 04:39 AM)MrWho Wrote: Late 5th density negatives rarely cooperate with any beings.

Only in an attempt to increase love of self by self. They see almost no virtue/value in other-self.

Quote:Questioner: Thank you. That cleared it up very well. A very important point. Can you tell me how positive and negative polarizations in fourth and fifth density are used to cause work in consciousness?

Ra: I am Ra. There is very little work in consciousness in fourth and in fifth densities compared to the work done in third density. The work that is accomplished in positive fourth is that work whereby the positive social memory complex, having, through slow stages, harmoniously integrated itself, goes forth to aid those of less positive orientation which seek their aid. Thus their service is their work and through this dynamic between the societal self and the other-self which is the object of love, greater and greater intensities of understanding or compassion are attained. This intensity continues until the appropriate intensity of the light may be welcomed. This is fourth-density harvest.

Within fourth-density positive there are minor amounts of catalyst of a spiritual and mental complex distortion. This occurs during the process of harmonizing to the extent of forming the social memory complex. This causes some small catalyst and work to occur, but the great work of fourth density lies in the contact betwixt the societal self and less polarized other-self.

In fourth-density negative much work is accomplished during the fighting for position which precedes the period of the social memory complex. There are opportunities to polarize negatively by control of other-selves. During the social memory complex period of fourth-density negative the situation is the same. The work takes place through the societal reaching out to less polarized other-self in order to aid in negative polarization.

In fifth-density positive and negative the concept of work done through a potential difference is not particularly helpful as fifth-density entities are, again, intensifying rather than potentiating.

In positive, the fifth-density complex uses sixth-density teach/learners to study the more illuminated understandings of unity thus becoming more and more wise. Fifth-density positive social memory complexes often will choose to divide their service to others in two ways: first, the beaming of light to creation; second, the sending of groups to be of aid as instruments of light such as those whom you’re familiar with through channels.

In fifth-density negative, service to self has become extremely intense and the self has shrunk or compacted so that the dialogues with the teach/learners are used exclusively in order to intensify wisdom. There are very, very few fifth-density negative Wanderers for they fear the forgetting. There are very, very few fifth-density Orion members for they do not any longer perceive any virtue in other-selves.

(02-23-2021, 09:32 AM)Minyatur Wrote:

(02-23-2021, 04:39 AM)MrWho Wrote: Late 5th density negatives rarely cooperate with any beings.

Only in an attempt to increase love of self by self. They see almost no virtue/value in other-self.

The material says that even positive entities can decide to harvest the 5th density solo, so I think it is the density that does not necessarily require collaboration with other-selves to advance.

Quote:Questioner: Is there anyone in our history that is commonly known who went to a fourth-density self-service or negative type planet or who will go there?

Ra: I am Ra. The number of entities thus harvested is small. However, a few have penetrated the eighth level which is only available from the opening up of the seventh through the sixth. Penetration into the eighth or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle.

Quote:Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

(02-23-2021, 09:32 AM)Minyatur Wrote:

(02-23-2021, 04:39 AM)MrWho Wrote: Late 5th density negatives rarely cooperate with any beings.

Only in an attempt to increase love of self by self. They see almost no virtue/value in other-self.

The material says that even positive entities can decide to harvest the 5th density solo, so I think it is the density that does not necessarily require collaboration with other-selves to advance.

(02-23-2021, 10:42 PM)jafar Wrote:

(02-23-2021, 09:32 AM)Minyatur Wrote:

(02-23-2021, 04:39 AM)MrWho Wrote: Late 5th density negatives rarely cooperate with any beings.

Only in an attempt to increase love of self by self. They see almost no virtue/value in other-self.

The material says that even positive entities can decide to harvest the 5th density solo, so I think it is the density that does not necessarily require collaboration with other-selves to advance.

Well isn't even on 4th density the 'entity' has formed a 'social memory complex'?

Quote:43.14 Questioner: Then the big difference in harvestability between third and fourth density is that at the end of the third density the individual is harvested as a function of individual violet ray, but in fourth density, is it the equivalent of violet-ray then for the entire social memory complex that must be of a harvestable nature to go to fifth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct although in fifth density entities may choose to learn as a social memory complex or as mind/body/spirit complexes and may graduate to sixth density under these conditions, for the wisdom density is an extremely free density whereas the lessons of compassion leading to wisdom necessarily have to do with other-selves.

43.15 Questioner: Then is sixth-density harvest strictly of social memory complex because again we have compassion blended back using wisdom?

Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.

(10-29-2018, 02:04 PM)SkyGodWarrior Wrote: Does anyone have any experience dealing with negative polarized beings? I have a lot of experience with it and have been successful with removing them from my life and from my body but some persist... and they continuously re appear later after a while.... Im referring to the section where Ra talks about biding these beings farewell...

Ive seen some scary stuff but I am not afraid... because I know the truth... the sadness that exist and how they ignored the light from within... I am teaching and showing them love.

It doesnt help that I live next to a cemetery and that my room mate is constantly bringing those depressive energies in....

Thanks

(04-01-2021, 05:56 PM)mb3 Wrote: You do realize the negative being is you - right?

(04-01-2021, 07:20 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 05:56 PM)mb3 Wrote: You do realize the negative being is you - right?

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=11930

(04-01-2021, 09:17 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 07:20 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 05:56 PM)mb3 Wrote: You do realize the negative being is you - right?

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=11930

I think this user was not being nasty as I believe they were saying it is the person's subconsciousness.

(04-01-2021, 09:17 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 07:20 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 05:56 PM)mb3 Wrote: You do realize the negative being is you - right?

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=11930

I think this user was not being nasty as I believe they were saying it is the person's subconsciousness.

(04-01-2021, 11:27 PM)Minyatur Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 09:17 PM)Ohr Ein Sof Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 07:20 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote:

(04-01-2021, 05:56 PM)mb3 Wrote: You do realize the negative being is you - right?

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=11930

I think this user was not being nasty as I believe they were saying it is the person's subconsciousness.

Or of the inherent oneness between other-self and self. That's how I've read it.