(09-24-2018, 10:19 PM)Glow Wrote: You write in a very similar manner as CA, must be a good match as friends or otherwise.

(09-26-2018, 04:52 AM)Aion Wrote: I'm pretty sure he only had the three accounts as far as I know, I don't think he had any others. 

(09-26-2018, 01:26 PM)One of Love Wrote: I told him I'm only here to dig up the cause of his dark game, after that I'd like to help him finish his books and hopefully get published.

(10-16-2018, 10:49 PM)Cyanatta Wrote:

(09-24-2018, 10:19 PM)Glow Wrote: You write in a very similar manner as CA, must be a good match as friends or otherwise.

Hmm.

(09-26-2018, 04:52 AM)Aion Wrote: I'm pretty sure he only had the three accounts as far as I know, I don't think he had any others. 

Hmmmm.

(09-26-2018, 01:26 PM)One of Love Wrote: I told him I'm only here to dig up the cause of his dark game, after that I'd like to help him finish his books and hopefully get published.

Hmmmmmm...




:idea: :exclamation:
 

(10-16-2018, 11:09 PM)Glow Wrote:

(10-16-2018, 10:49 PM)Cyanatta Wrote:

(09-24-2018, 10:19 PM)Glow Wrote: You write in a very similar manner as CA, must be a good match as friends or otherwise.

Hmm.

(09-26-2018, 04:52 AM)Aion Wrote: I'm pretty sure he only had the three accounts as far as I know, I don't think he had any others. 

Hmmmm.

(09-26-2018, 01:26 PM)One of Love Wrote: I told him I'm only here to dig up the cause of his dark game, after that I'd like to help him finish his books and hopefully get published.

Hmmmmmm...




:idea: :exclamation:
 

Yeah I got there too.

(10-17-2018, 01:20 AM)blossom Wrote: Hmm?

(10-17-2018, 07:41 AM)Cyanatta Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 01:20 AM)blossom Wrote: Hmm?

Big ol' catfish

(10-17-2018, 11:30 AM)blossom Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 07:41 AM)Cyanatta Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 01:20 AM)blossom Wrote: Hmm?

Big ol' catfish

Or not..

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(10-17-2018, 12:19 PM)Cyanatta Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 11:30 AM)blossom Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 07:41 AM)Cyanatta Wrote:

(10-17-2018, 01:20 AM)blossom Wrote: Hmm?

Big ol' catfish

Or not..

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Catfish:
noun
2 : a person who sets up a false personal profile on a social networking site for fraudulent or deceptive purposes

(10-17-2018, 12:52 PM)blossom Wrote: I realize, I meant that we can't know for sure, so we shouldn't call people out like that.

(10-17-2018, 08:42 PM)Relaxo Wrote: it's also sad - because love and support was so clearly offered to all of the 'identities' - and still is
but apparently this is a 'cult' (lol!)
I mean how on earth can that be the case when there's so MUCH disagreement here??  

(10-18-2018, 11:13 AM)Agua Wrote: I am not completely sure about it, but i also strongly suspect it was CA!

But even if it wasnt fake, then it clearly displayed all the qualities that the forum members have been blamed for!
I strongly believe everybody here is doing his/her best to help to the best of one's ability!
There is nothing more that can be done!

I dont think anybody here should have guilty conscience about maybe not having done done enough or not good enough!

In my opinion, CA's basic problem was the complete unwillingness to take responsibility for his life, and the same goes for One of Love!
All help is completely useless, if somebody doesnt take responsibility and makes the decisions necessary.

Its everybody's free will to not take advice, to not take responsibility, to go on with self-destruction, and there is nothing that can be done unless the person in question decides for a better path!

(10-03-2018, 12:50 PM)Agua Wrote: "This place should be a loving place"
Well, it would be cool, if it was a loving place, where everybody can receive deep healing.
But thats just not what it is.

It is a loose community of seekers, thats it.
You have to realize, many people here are very young, many people are at the beginning of their conscious spiritual journey and even more are just about to begin their healing journey.
Sure, there are also some people who are maybe already further on their spiritual and healing path, but thats a minority.

That means, that many people here are sometimes heavily struggling, have considerable emotional and mental issues and, quite logically, not the most refined spiritual understanding.

And the community is made up of all these individuals.

To expect them to be loving and compassionate is just unrealistic.
To expect a clear and deep rooted understanding of spiritual material is also unrealistic, how could you expect this from somebody just starting the journey?

Its more of a place where people share their problems, their difficulties and sometimes their success experiences and insights. And everybody hopes someone else might have the missing puzzle peace.

What you expect is a therapeutic setting, and that is something completely different!
I believe thats a crucial thing to understand!

In a therapeutic setting, the roles a very clear:
The therapist is completely in service for the client.
Even if the therapist is facing issues of his own, he/she is zrying to keep them out of the way and focus completely on the client.
In a therapy, the client is (hopefully) able to build trust and establish a reliable relationship that makes healing possible!

Another difference is, a good therapist has already healed his/her own trauma. because of that he/she has a real understanding of the clients situation, how it was created in the first place and how to heal it.
You simply cannot expect this from a random forum member!
Finding and healing one's trauma is a a very long process which usually takes at least one or two decades.
Its simply unrealistic to expect from someone just starting healing work to give really helpful advice!

It is in my opinion really important to understand this!
Because therapy is what many people would need!!!
As long as people believe getting advice in a forum is all that is needed, the will never take the step and start a therapy!
And the means to help and heal on an internet forum are definetely extremely limited!

Another important thing is experience.
You might notice that we can only type words here.
That is not the medium to really convey an experience.
So you have a maybe poorly worded advice and then somebody who may understand it completely wrong.
In a therapy, you can work with experience.
And you can work with touch, you can hold someone!

THAT is what is needed!

That doesnt mean we shouldnt try! Many people here, including myself, spend massive amounts of time to really try and help, support, comfort, to the best of their ability.
But one should be aware of the limitations and the fact that I CANNOT REPLACE THERAPY!

You might further notice, many people come here with severe problems. Quite a few obviously have critical mental conditions and/or emotional problems.
Sometimes its clearly visible, sometimes it takes some time until it shows, and there are quite a few where its healthy to assume, although not (yet) visible.

I guess it accounts to your lack of experience in this field, but its just not the way such "disorders" arise!
You dont just go to a forum, and even if some s*** would happen there, become autistic, schizophrenic, psychotic or whatever.

All those conditions have in common that they are an attempt to defend against unbearable emotions that are already IN the person in question.
Sometimes the conditions visibly manifest at a certain age, when a certain level of outer safety would permit those emotions to arise.
Sometimes a relationship breakup brings those emotions to the surface.
For many people its weed consumption, which has a huge potential to open door to the subconscious and awaken emotions people are not ready for.
Whatever the trigger is, its just the trigger, it is not the cause!

I am not saying this to defend anybody, i am saying this because you want to help.
And if you want to help. you should find out what the origin is.
I guess you know what i mean.

Mental conditions such as the ones mentioned, severe emotional problems have very deep roots.
The roots always and with almost no exceptions trace back to a very very early age and very often to the beginning of the incarnation.
You might not believe this.
I suggest you find out yourself.
If you do enough spiritual and healing work, i guarantee 100% you will come to the exact same conclusion!
There is not one single person on this planet who is spiritually evolved and doesnt share this view, not to my awareness!

But as i said, dont take my word for it, find out yourself!,

(11-08-2018, 03:04 PM)Kaaron Wrote: There is just as much dark as there is light in the Law of One.
Its alot like the bible. Its inspired by positive and negative entities.
I look at it as Carla being pure...Jim being of loving intent and don is the negative balance.
I feel like the 5th density negative entity is a fractal of Don's soul playing a role it can't fully understand due to the veil.
So there are parts that are definitely corrupted or tainted by Don's behavior and own agenda.
I try to look at it, not as an infallible testament of truth from the 6th dimensional being called Ra...but a well intentioned, subjective perusal of what's possible within the dimensions

(11-08-2018, 03:53 PM)blossom Wrote:

(11-08-2018, 03:04 PM)Kaaron Wrote: There is just as much dark as there is light in the Law of One.
Its alot like the bible. Its inspired by positive and negative entities.
I look at it as Carla being pure...Jim being of loving intent and don is the negative balance.
I feel like the 5th density negative entity is a fractal of Don's soul playing a role it can't fully understand due to the veil.
So there are parts that are definitely corrupted or tainted by Don's behavior and own agenda.
I try to look at it, not as an infallible testament of truth from the 6th dimensional being called Ra...but a well intentioned, subjective perusal of what's possible within the dimensions

smh.. you couldn't possibly know anything about said person. without them nothing of this were possible, it was said by Ra that all 3 have worked and work together on a planned pre-incarnate nature. and also Carla have said numerous times that she considers don as her guide. so please, show some respect.
a 5th density negative would not be working with such group in harmony to bring the Law of One to light. needless to said it wouldn't even incarnate on the earth plane..
it is quite simple to understand as to why don was influenced so much more than the rest of the group, I am just not going to touch that topic due to honoring that which is of no importance at this moment any longer.

(11-08-2018, 03:53 PM)blossom Wrote: a 5th density negative would not be working with such group in harmony to bring the Law of One to light. needless to said it wouldn't even incarnate on the earth plane..

(12-03-2018, 02:53 PM)Kaaron Wrote: I'm allowed an opinion.
Don killed himself after he became delusional.
He was possessive, controlling n predominantly self serving.
All these things point to negative Orion influence.
Whenever there is light...the dark is given equal opportunity to offer the opposite.
I was inferring that don was being offered certain lines of questioning, due to his own agenda alot of the time eg. Gandolf dying.
Just because Carla calls don her guide...doesn't mean hes exempt from higher density negative influence.
I dont feel like sharing my views on this is disrespectful...I feel like don is the one I can relate to the most n always felt compassion n gratitude for his sacrifice, which ultimately led to his passing.

(12-03-2018, 02:53 PM)Kaaron Wrote:

(11-08-2018, 03:53 PM)blossom Wrote:

(11-08-2018, 03:04 PM)Kaaron Wrote: There is just as much dark as there is light in the Law of One.
Its alot like the bible. Its inspired by positive and negative entities.
I look at it as Carla being pure...Jim being of loving intent and don is the negative balance.
I feel like the 5th density negative entity is a fractal of Don's soul playing a role it can't fully understand due to the veil.
So there are parts that are definitely corrupted or tainted by Don's behavior and own agenda.
I try to look at it, not as an infallible testament of truth from the 6th dimensional being called Ra...but a well intentioned, subjective perusal of what's possible within the dimensions

smh.. you couldn't possibly know anything about said person. without them nothing of this were possible, it was said by Ra that all 3 have worked and work together on a planned pre-incarnate nature. and also Carla have said numerous times that she considers don as her guide. so please, show some respect.
a 5th density negative would not be working with such group in harmony to bring the Law of One to light. needless to said it wouldn't even incarnate on the earth plane..
it is quite simple to understand as to why don was influenced so much more than the rest of the group, I am just not going to touch that topic due to honoring that which is of no importance at this moment any longer.

I'm allowed an opinion.
Don killed himself after he became delusional.
He was possessive, controlling n predominantly self serving.
All these things point to negative Orion influence.
Whenever there is light...the dark is given equal opportunity to offer the opposite.
I was inferring that don was being offered certain lines of questioning, due to his own agenda alot of the time eg. Gandolf dying.
Just because Carla calls don her guide...doesn't mean hes exempt from higher density negative influence.
I dont feel like sharing my views on this is disrespectful...I feel like don is the one I can relate to the most n always felt compassion n gratitude for his sacrifice, which ultimately led to his passing.

(12-03-2018, 08:59 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:

(12-03-2018, 02:53 PM)Kaaron Wrote: I'm allowed an opinion.
Don killed himself after he became delusional.
He was possessive, controlling n predominantly self serving.
All these things point to negative Orion influence.
Whenever there is light...the dark is given equal opportunity to offer the opposite.
I was inferring that don was being offered certain lines of questioning, due to his own agenda alot of the time eg. Gandolf dying.
Just because Carla calls don her guide...doesn't mean hes exempt from higher density negative influence.
I dont feel like sharing my views on this is disrespectful...I feel like don is the one I can relate to the most n always felt compassion n gratitude for his sacrifice, which ultimately led to his passing.

I dunno man, this is the guy who allowed the love of his life to take "lovers" on the side because he himself wasn't comfortable with sexuality. If he was really controlling and possessive as you say, he would have forced Carla to engage in celibacy and judged her for having "impure thoughts". I think of him more as a kind of noble, buddhist type. Politely disconnected, with a great sense of ethics and righteousness.

(12-03-2018, 09:07 PM)blossom Wrote: https://www.bring4th.org/archive.php?uid=214&catid=1&m=11&d=7&y=2018

(09-24-2018, 02:03 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Look up Himmler. He was highly STO. Because STS and STO are relative to the society that you live in. If you live in an ill or corrupt society, then being pure, true, and loving would cause you to be STS as you would be raining on the societal parade. You'll note that Don Elkins managed to get to 100% STO as he killed himself instead of channeling more information that would cause a negative outcome relative to the society in which he lived. This is because Ra is pure truth relative to your level of seeking.

This is why this material has people committing suicide. Because everyone wants to believe that it is perfect in every-way. Turns out, it becomes perfect only after you balance duality in it's entirety.

Quote:Questioner: The fifteenth archetype is the Matrix of the Spirit and has been
called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so?
Ra: I am Ra. We do not wish to be facile in such a central query, but we
may note that the nature of the spirit is so infinitely subtle that the
fructifying influence of light upon the great darkness of the spirit is very
often not as apparent as the darkness itself. The progress chosen by many
adepts becomes a confused path as each adept attempts to use the Catalyst
of the Spirit. Few there are which are successful in grasping the light of the
sun. By far, the majority of adepts remain groping in the moonlight and, as
we have said, this light can deceive as well as uncover hidden mystery.
Therefore, the melody, shall we say, of this matrix often seems to be of a
negative and evil, as you would call it, nature.
It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and
more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of otherselves. Whether this is done for service to others or service to self, it is a
necessary part of the awakening of the adept. This freedom is seen by those
not free as what you would call evil or black. The magic is recognized; the
nature is often not.