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RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - BlatzAdict - 11-01-2016 (10-12-2016, 05:26 AM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote:(10-04-2016, 03:03 PM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote:(09-28-2016, 03:43 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: So as I see it, this isn't "stagnation;" it's the fundamental friction being caused by our brave new interconnected world being so alien to many people over the age of 40 or 50 that they simply have a hard time dealing with it. I think this is the main reason we're seeing a rise in so many reactionary, far-right, and often violent groups. They're terrified by the world they see around them, so unlike what they were raised to expect from the world, and are lashing out... except without even clear targets to fight. maybe it's the pessimistic side of me that sees a growing divide between transhumanism and naturalism. i think this is the defining moment where humanity turns either to some grey alien looking species (transhumanist) vs some kind of peleidian species (naturalist). i think human conflict will naturally gravitate towards herd mentality, where you have anti tech vs tech orientated. maybe the amish tradition are the remnants of ideas that survived the last cycle? Has anyone ever read the comic Transmetropolitan? It's a post futurist comic book about a news reporter Spider Jerusalem. Very interesting science fiction and was definitely ahead of it's time when it was made. There is a whole side of the spiritual movement that is completely self interested, yoga, high vibration food, umm i know it's helping the rest of the planet but it's mostly serving at the self rather than others. It's made me rethink needing to have raw veggie juice all of the time in some sub conscious way of protest to the idea. Let's say we have a culture that has more robotics, artificial legs, arms, organs, what if those things can only work with a subscription to the company that made it? What if there was ever some remote lock out feature. I don't know if anyone here has read The incal by Alejandro Jodorowsky, also explores themes of humans adopting the use of technology, and artificial intelligence. Leading themselves to advertise immortality and the lack of disease by replacing the entire body with artificial components and circuits. By the end no one is able to have any emotions, or feelings, or hunger for that matter. It is life without the emotional or physical desires, and leads many to become suicidal due to the lifeless result of their choices. I've been thinking about the transition from 3rd to 4th. I've been thinking energetically it has been at 4th for some time but the set back is basically people operating at the red ray level of consciousness to to the second and sometimes the third activation. Staying in a security and survival mindset, is very limiting, either this is a threat or it's there to help. A lot of people are stuck in that, Flat earth while untrue latches on to the emotional baseline fear perpetuated to society that everything we are told is part of a lie. So emotionally it becomes easy to want to reject the intellectual, since it's not really cultivated anywhere, much less the media or in any educational institution. Ra says that the transition will be gradual and that the third density will continue until they die out. What this says to me is that we've got a lot of work to do to show people that there is a christ consciousness that is not limited to any one religion or limited to any one culture. It doesn't help that you have a group of Law of One students that dropped out, got into family bloodlines, and then pull the strings i.e. bilderberg group. People who have the same level of esoteric knowledge as the average Law of One student, however uses it for negative purposes, or is influenced to use the magical personality for the self serving polarity. If the world were a pool, and each of us an individual wave pattern, the ones that make the most waves are the ones most coherent to love. We've set up the background etheric grid over the planet, though it works the more we consciously activate it and enact it. We've come this far, and we've got a bit more work to do before Harvest is upon us however close it seems. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - GreatSpirit - 11-03-2016 (09-28-2016, 01:43 PM)Riveroflight Wrote: I want to express my confusion and utter frustration in this whole "Third to fourth" mess here on earth. I apologize in advance, it's been a rough morning for me as I read through some of the more recent newsletters of Light/Lines with L/L Research. So if this message comes across as slightly negatively fueled, just know I may not be in my "right" mind right now. Never mind who I am, it really doesn't matter. There is nothing to fear. When green ray becomes fully active and the yellow ray goes into potentiation, then true 4D experiences will occur. No later than 800 years max. Regarding the 3D physical to 4D transition...this, like all evolution, just happens over a period of time where the children being born are born with "gifts." Green ray rules now, so the DNA is being suited for 4D bodies. Spiritualized living becomes the norm for people. 3D people will have eventually died off or have left the planet by the year 2800, if not sooner. The 3D planet then becomes a pristine world, left to nature as 3/2/1D. The 3D Earth can still be visited obviously by 3D physical people eventually as long as the physical climatic conditions are met. But 4D exists as its own space/time continuum unaffected by 3D. Since red/orange rays are still active, this means plant/animal life becomes abundant in 4D space/time experience. Over time it will become uninhabitable physically. However, you're looking for an event. Well, I think it will start with breaking news on TV, with some arrests of those in the government/corporate/socialite world. An explanation of these arrests will be provided by probably from someone from the UN or Russia/Asia. It will be like a positive 9/11 on an extremely massive scale. Bright future ahead people!! No later than 2018 I think but in my Universe I'm looking for ASAP/2017 Full disclosure. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Spooner - 11-03-2016 (09-28-2016, 06:25 PM)Riveroflight Wrote: @Nicholas For whatever reason I've had many interactions with schizophrenic people (maybe it's my gifting to understand them). One had been heavily involved with withcraft and undergoing an intense process of STS adepthood. He had been introduced to the Seth material and instantly and intuitively I knew this material (1) contained a lot of truth (2) was intended to lead people into an STS path. I've never read it myself. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Minyatur - 11-03-2016 I don't know much about Seth nor the channelings, but as far as I'm aware the Wikipedia page states that Seth is the god of confusion, disorder and perturbation, so I would initially think this is what this fella has to offer. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Diana - 11-04-2016 (09-28-2016, 06:25 PM)Riveroflight Wrote: Regarding the Seth Material - I think it's good that you follow your intuition. And yet, I would question such an extreme reaction, rather than it being a calm, centered intuitive response. There could be any number of reasons for your aversion. Why would your higher self or guides want you to be in fear? Your reaction sounds personal to me (maybe a past life experience), rather than that the material is so harmful you shouldn't even look at the pages. One can get information, or learn, from anything or anyone. The bible, for instance, (in my opinion) is full of flat-out horror and extreme negative commands/demands from a "jealous" God (old testament), but I can read it and not become "tainted" or hurt by it. It's just information. I wouldn't be warned off so-called negatively oriented material. None of that matters if you simply discern for yourself. This whole world is full of negativity. There is positive energy, too, and beauty. Discernment and autonomy (independent thinking) are vital. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - anagogy - 11-04-2016 (09-28-2016, 06:25 PM)Riveroflight Wrote: Regarding the Seth Material - From someone who has actually read a large amount of Seth, I will come to his defense and state that Seth was an extremely positive entity. He was Jane Roberts Higher Self. For what its worth, I've had similar reactions to material that I wasn't ready for yet, but then years later when I was a vibrational match for it, it no longer felt aversive. It's important to remember that all knowledge can be simultaneously both medicine and poison depending on the system in which it is introduced. This doesn't make the substance or deliverer of a negative nature, rather, it is the context which determines the nature of its influence. Not all students will benefit from the same teacher. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - 4Dsunrise - 11-06-2016 GreatSpirit says Quote:However, you're looking for an event. This is a good point which relates to the nature of a density as an 8-fold octave. Just as octaves intersect in terms of music or color or other vibrational systems there is the intersection of densities. We are in an intersection of an outward, outgoing, yang-based 3.8 density and an inward, incoming, yin-based 4.1 density. The outward yang nature of 3.8 is about externalizing or exposing, and active purging of the cumulative material of 3rd density. It's like when doing a body/mind/spirit fast and cleansing and allowing all the toxins to rise to the surface to be purged. But we're also in a 4.1 phase with its inward yin nature to internalize and integrate and heal via transcending and making whole. Again like the body/mind/spirit fast and cleansing which allows for clarity of awareness both internally and externally, and accessing inner resources that have been previously blocked or clogged that can better resonate with one's being. So this 3.8/4.1 phase should reflect what you suggest GreatSpirit plus much more such as -- possibly a more active CE6 which Riveroflight seems to resonate to. Quote:CE3 is when an encounter is with visible occupants inside an ET craft. And btw, I hope Riveroflight is okay because I noticed that she hasn't visited since October 3rd. Maybe she still visits but has switched to an unlogged status. I sent her a PM which relates to this CE6 of Wanderer/Confederation collaboration and intervention. I hope you're doing well Riveroflight and check your PM box when you get the chance. And for guests and members here, check a new blog site https://thirddensityalchemist.wordpress.com/ for articles that have a focus on TLOO and 4th density transition interests. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Kaaron - 11-06-2016 (11-04-2016, 12:56 AM)anagogy Wrote: From someone who has actually read a large amount of Seth, I will come to his defense and state that Seth was an extremely positive entity. He was Jane Roberts Higher Self. Do you have a reason for stating this? I thought Seth was a 5th Density being...definitely not her higher self IMO Him giving the information without it being requested, also gives the impression of STS, to me. The material may be consistent with the Ra material...that doesn't mean the context is positive. My 2 cents. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Jade - 11-07-2016 I think the contact is positive but I don't think it's Jane's Higher Self. I'm pretty sure Seth speaks of incarnating alongside her and her husband as a companion entity. I think the "giving of information not requested" thing can be sidestepped because Seth says they had preincarnative agreements to do this. It's obviously quite veiled (hard to read for a layman) and, for all most people are aware, it's just Jane talking anyway. I don't think it's an abridgement of free will. But I also don't think Seth is coming from a 6th density perspective. I would agree it's more likely 5th, since it's more about the mechanics of how metaphysics work, and less about love (4th) or unification (6th). RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Minyatur - 11-07-2016 I think the question/answer mechanic is how those of Ra are comfortable in sharing to minimize the shadows they can cast and as such relate to their polarity and not polarity itself. Wouldn't suprise me they have much experience of doing otherwise since creation is of an experimental nature. So it kind of relates to the energies they wanted to invest here at this moment more than anything else. I would tend to value more the Thoth tablets for this exact reason, because what is shared is what is thought to be of importance and is not limited to an individual's veiled questioning process (which relates little to other readers anyway). As such a shorter text gives greater and deeper insights through not imposing this limitation when giving and it remains the free will of each to read/avoid or accept/reject the words as one's resonance with them dictates. Though, this information was given before the Ra material was given and it could make sense there is no point in repeating this already given information which allows other focuses to be jointly-useful to the veiled seekers. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - anagogy - 11-07-2016 (11-06-2016, 07:02 PM)Kaaron Wrote: Do you have a reason for stating this? It depends how you look at it. And it is just my personal intuition and opinion that this is so. If you see it differently, then all is well. Seth 1: "Now initially Ruburt and Joseph and I were a part of the same entity, or overall identity, and so symbolically speaking, there are psychic currents that unite us. All of these merge into what has often been compared to as an ocean of consciousness, a well from which all actuality springs. Start with any one consciousness, and theoretically you will find all others." There are many versions of Seth. I believe we each have many versions of what might be termed "higher selves". It may not be that Seth fits the exact description of Ra's definition of a higher self. But as a more developed or further along version of Jane and her husbands self, I would say that Seth comprised such a being. Not to mention Seth two. We have inner beings within inner beings within inner beings. It is like two mirrors facing each other stretching off into infinity. Seth 2: "Seth is a point in my reference, in our reference. He is an ancient portion of us. We are separate but united. Always the spirit forms the flesh." Seth 1: "We will continue. There are kinds of consciousness that cannot be deciphered in physical terms. The "personality" who originated the paragraphs you have just read is such a one. As mentioned, there is the same kind of connection between that personality and myself as the one that exists between Ruburt and myself. But in your terms, Seth Two is far further divorced from my reality than I am from Ruburt's. You can imagine Seth Two as a future portion of me if you prefer, and yet far more is involved." Seth 1: "Seth Two does represent what I will become, to some extent, and in your terms, yet when I become what he is he will be something different. In the same terms now, only, Ruburt may become what I am, but then I will be something far different." Having said all that, the distinction isn't incredibly important to know or understand. All divisions are ultimately arbitrary, so I have no great desire to debate the trivialities of arbitary personality divisions, but those are some quotes that hint that this is so. And as to him giving information that wasn't requested. I don't think we can really say that definitively. People ask for things with more than just their words. There is also the vibrational asking of all those who would eventually read the amalgamated published material you have to consider. The vibrational asking, and the subsequent vibrational answering. They are one and the same. The call exists without regard to space/time as we understand it. Speaking of myself, I know that I was, in my heart, certainly asking for that information. I've always found it to be very positive and empowering information, personally. edit: added clarifications RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - anagogy - 11-07-2016 For those who aren't aware: Seth called Jane Roberts "Ruburt", and her husband, Robert Butts, "Joseph". RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - sjel - 08-15-2017 I just realized this recently: The "Event" of transitioning to fourth density is really just moving completely into the present moment. When the transition to fourth density is complete, there is no future. The 'Event' is NOW, and it always has been Now. We will never move into fourth density in the future. The only time we can ever move into fourth density is now. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Asolsutsesvyl - 12-09-2019 I found this thread while searching around, from newer to older, on the forum. It can be interesting to reflect on predictions and ideas of changes a few years later on. (08-15-2017, 07:09 PM)sjel Wrote: We will never move into fourth density in the future. The only time we can ever move into fourth density is now. One idea about 4D found in various places, formulated to different extents, is that in 4D, time is different than in 3D. Relevant to this are the ideas of P.D. Ouspensky: (11-29-2019, 05:24 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: Regarding the nature of time, the idea of multidimensional time was explored by Don Elkins - time as three-dimensional, together with three dimensional space, for six dimensions of space and time. P. D. Ouspensky, close to the time when World War I broke out, had similar ideas, but on a foundation which first developed from and then diverged from Theosophy.While in part, movement towards 4D may be connected to the unfolding of the timeline we experience, the real growth into 4D proceeds in a way which extends being for the beings involved perpendicularly to the line of linear time. Referring back to the ideas earlier in this thread, I think the idea of a sudden "split" between 3D and 4D is misleading, and actually what would happen if negative forces win. I think it's obvious that there's a long road for most people who grow into 4D, before they're "done" with that, so if a split were to happen in the very short term, it would really mean a cancelling of the transition and the "harvest" for most who are capable of getting there in the decades ahead. It would be like the pinnacle of humanity's growth and current opportunities suddenly crashing and burning. A "split" would eventually happen when 3D life becomes "obsolete", when the future for life on Earth for humanity is 4D-only. That's after the transition is complete for those who go through it. Then... There's various ideas, including a mass extinction event through cometary bombardment in a historical pattern repeating. Let's say that happens after some unknown hundreds of years. By then, hopefully, most human consciousness on Earth, for those not stuck in the sinkhole of indifference, would be 4D rather than 3D, and the more conscious life of the planet would be lived in 4D bodies, side by side with the 3D life. Then, when 3D civilization ends, the planet is left with 1D and 2D going on and adapting to the challenges facing the old biosphere, while 4D humanity lives on in a different physical environment. Prior to the completion of the initial growth into 4D, negative forces strive to hijack as much of what happens as is possible for them, and if they were to succeed, they may be able to shift the spiritual climate towards a 4D STS future, isolating and ejecting the growing 4D STO activity. It is predicted that such attempts will fail. But if, hypothetically, they were to succeed, then consciousness would be further split and contracted, and its further growth would only happen under controlled forms. I think that all channeled messages of a very sudden "split" in the short term are disinfo. The more credible descriptions of what a real split would actually mean make for disaster movie material. RE: Event, or no event? Which is it? Also, UFO intervention for 2016/2017?? - Loki - 12-10-2019 I think the confusing part in regard to this issue is the fact that Ra talks about a genetic modification of 3D bodies to 4D bodies on earth. This is a process which might take a while and at one point must be 3D and 4D in existence on earth at the same time. Considering that 4D must hide from 3D in order to preserve the law of confusion the question would be how this transition will really happen. My opinion is that at certain moment when the 4D body will become available all the 3D people still existing on earth will be 3D graduated with double body (3D, 4D) in activation. Those people will probably be exempt from the law of confusion so that the genetic transformation of the body is possible. law of confusion is not useful anymore for a graduated 3D even though is still in 3D body. In the beginning the law of confusion was applied to those with double body in activation just because they were leaving along 3D only people that are not ready to graduate and in order to preserve their veil. |