(12-01-2014, 02:44 PM)darklight Wrote:

(12-01-2014, 01:47 PM)Unbound Wrote: "Seems"

But the sinkhole of indifference indicates that most entities are (far) more than 49% STS (negative). Even on a 'positive' planet like Venus, only 20% of the population was able to graduate to 4th density STO after a major cycle.

Quote:The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness.

(12-02-2014, 06:09 PM)nio Wrote:

(12-03-2014, 12:27 PM)Sabou Wrote: lmao that menacing music, and then at the end, an ad pops up for another video link "watch woman's ear explode as she gets punched"

(03-11-2013, 08:53 PM)anagogy Wrote:

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: All you have to do is say, in retrospect, that "the course is not as originally planned" to say that the entity did not "take care". Which of course is silly.

The situation I was referencing was the situation in which a positive wanderer incarnates in 3rd density for the purpose of raising the planetary vibration and assisting potential harvestees.  That is the "original plan" of the higher density being that "wanders".  So, in this particular context "taking care" with their polarization would simply mean not polarizing towards the negative (in effect, behaving in a way towards other selves that was not consonant with positive polarity).  I don't really interpret that as "silly", rather, just pragmatic.

Even if they were relatively neutral in their interactions with other selves, their purpose in wandering would be more or less negated in such a circumstance.  Not necessarily negated in the sense that they can't go home after a death, but negated in that it would kind of defeat the whole purpose.  

After all, they aren't here to just "chill out".

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: One can't judge their own polarity any more than you can judge another's.  People resonating with their sincere, "highest good" will be "taking care" and still polarize negatively. Understanding is not of this density, so it's silly to say "take care".

I guess I disagree with that assertion.  Someone resonating with their sincere "highest good" will not polarize negatively, from my perspective.  Someone resonating with their sincere "highest personal pleasure" might polarize negatively however.    

I don't see it as particularly hard to judge one's own polarity.  One need merely take an honest look at one's behavior and one's dominant intent to know what direction one is polarizing.  If one is even somewhat conscious of the spiritual path, one can plainly see if one's actions are done in the spirit of helping the whole, or merely helping the self.  Certainly there are individuals who delude themselves into thinking their self-serving behavior is actually service to others, but I wouldn't regard such individuals as very conscious.  With consciousness comes the ability to honestly and objectively evaluate one's true motivations.  

Anyone who is conscious enough to be beyond the "sinkhole of indifference" is undoubtedly aware of what direction they are polarized in.  

Knowing may not be of this density, but that doesn't mean we can't understand or know anything.

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: And that degree of significance is called "polarity", which is what you were saying, whether or not you want to acknowledge it.

I wasn't aware I had said otherwise.  My whole point was simply in response to your assertion that, "[...] it is not important at all to have STO action (or STS action) in order to go back to their density."

(03-11-2013, 03:46 AM)anagogy Wrote: So wanderers may do as they like, but if that involves significantly STS behavior (i can't imagine what else "negative orientation towards other selves" would mean if not "service to self"), they wouldn't necessarily return to their native density.

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Which no one but the OP had claimed.

Claimed what exactly?  Not entirely sure what you are referring to?

You were claiming that polarization wasn't a factor in whether a wanderer returns to their native density after their sojourn of 3rd density "wandering".  

I'm simply offering my understanding that polarization *IS* a factor, as that Ra quote corroborated.

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(03-11-2013, 08:09 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: This was my concern when I did a very STS thing when I was not in my right mind. I acted without love. I'm thinking that one bad action or mistake won't cause one to flip polarities. Especially if this mistake is not repeated again. I strive to demonstrate love.

No, I very much doubt it is quite that fragile.

My understanding is that your "negative orientation towards other selves" would have to become a deeply ingrained part of your character to get you caught up in the planetary vibration.  The occasional deviation from an otherwise predominately STO habit of thought and behavior won't stop you from going home after this incarnation.

(03-13-2015, 08:11 PM)KAOTICANGEL Wrote:

(03-11-2013, 08:53 PM)anagogy Wrote:

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: All you have to do is say, in retrospect, that "the course is not as originally planned" to say that the entity did not "take care". Which of course is silly.

The situation I was referencing was the situation in which a positive wanderer incarnates in 3rd density for the purpose of raising the planetary vibration and assisting potential harvestees.  That is the "original plan" of the higher density being that "wanders".  So, in this particular context "taking care" with their polarization would simply mean not polarizing towards the negative (in effect, behaving in a way towards other selves that was not consonant with positive polarity).  I don't really interpret that as "silly", rather, just pragmatic.

Even if they were relatively neutral in their interactions with other selves, their purpose in wandering would be more or less negated in such a circumstance.  Not necessarily negated in the sense that they can't go home after a death, but negated in that it would kind of defeat the whole purpose.  

After all, they aren't here to just "chill out".

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: One can't judge their own polarity any more than you can judge another's.  People resonating with their sincere, "highest good" will be "taking care" and still polarize negatively. Understanding is not of this density, so it's silly to say "take care".

I guess I disagree with that assertion.  Someone resonating with their sincere "highest good" will not polarize negatively, from my perspective.  Someone resonating with their sincere "highest personal pleasure" might polarize negatively however.    

I don't see it as particularly hard to judge one's own polarity.  One need merely take an honest look at one's behavior and one's dominant intent to know what direction one is polarizing.  If one is even somewhat conscious of the spiritual path, one can plainly see if one's actions are done in the spirit of helping the whole, or merely helping the self.  Certainly there are individuals who delude themselves into thinking their self-serving behavior is actually service to others, but I wouldn't regard such individuals as very conscious.  With consciousness comes the ability to honestly and objectively evaluate one's true motivations.  

Anyone who is conscious enough to be beyond the "sinkhole of indifference" is undoubtedly aware of what direction they are polarized in.  

Knowing may not be of this density, but that doesn't mean we can't understand or know anything.

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: And that degree of significance is called "polarity", which is what you were saying, whether or not you want to acknowledge it.

I wasn't aware I had said otherwise.  My whole point was simply in response to your assertion that, "[...] it is not important at all to have STO action (or STS action) in order to go back to their density."

(03-11-2013, 03:46 AM)anagogy Wrote: So wanderers may do as they like, but if that involves significantly STS behavior (i can't imagine what else "negative orientation towards other selves" would mean if not "service to self"), they wouldn't necessarily return to their native density.

(03-11-2013, 01:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Which no one but the OP had claimed.

Claimed what exactly?  Not entirely sure what you are referring to?

You were claiming that polarization wasn't a factor in whether a wanderer returns to their native density after their sojourn of 3rd density "wandering".  

I'm simply offering my understanding that polarization *IS* a factor, as that Ra quote corroborated.

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(03-11-2013, 08:09 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: This was my concern when I did a very STS thing when I was not in my right mind. I acted without love. I'm thinking that one bad action or mistake won't cause one to flip polarities. Especially if this mistake is not repeated again. I strive to demonstrate love.

No, I very much doubt it is quite that fragile.

My understanding is that your "negative orientation towards other selves" would have to become a deeply ingrained part of your character to get you caught up in the planetary vibration.  The occasional deviation from an otherwise predominately STO habit of thought and behavior won't stop you from going home after this incarnation.

my soulmate and i are both wanders. I am very strong and I dont know in details of what your theories all mean. but I can tell you for a fact I'm a wanderer. for some reason my entire life I thought I was a lighter. but apparently you guys call them wanders. lot of the things how to set on here seems to be sad because people haven't reached that level of consciousness themselves therefore speculate. I'm only here for one reason my soulmate has reverse polarities and im scare. what would mean for our next life or will she go off on her own path in the next one. my inner peace my inner mind in my inner soul have worked as one my entire life. I don't know who I was before but they were very ok you guys talk about negative polarity I have the ability to have complete negitive polarity without ever having to switch polarities. and my personal knowing my gut cuz I like to call it now days tells me its my past life bulid up of balanced Karma. wanderd listen to me. we are on a combat mission to earth. they have plainly stated they cannot predict what is going to happen with all of the shifting at the same time. I can tell you from my innermost self my green that what I say is true and your consciencneeness volunteered for children to be here and now as they wander or later. the wonders on there at this time are amongst the strongest ever in history. my inner self knows the truth. I'm not a prophet or a guru. cuz I am a selfish one. but that is all part of the balance. I have yet to come across one my knowing please if you're out there contact me tawnieAmos@yahoo.com... only contact me if you are of the same knowing

(03-14-2015, 03:28 PM)Bluebell Wrote:

i don't claim to be one but i had one like this once...

(03-09-2013, 11:14 AM)Namaste Wrote: Always remember, if you feel that you're a wanderer, you're here to help *other selves* make the harvest.

How do you do that?

By being an example for them to follow, if they so wish. Treat people with compassion, love and understanding, and you're a teacher by example.

Along with offering direct service, it will aid the planetary consciousness, making it easier for others to choose the positive path.

Forget about the harvest, dates and ascension. If you're a wanderer, you've already ascended, and are here for others to do the same.

And of course, in doing so, you'll make yourself harvestable by nature.

(03-15-2015, 01:19 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:

(03-14-2015, 03:28 PM)Bluebell Wrote:

i don't claim to be one but i had one like this once...

I don't get it. How can one be a lighter?

Quote:15.7 Questioner: What is the greatest service that our population on this planet could perform individually?

Ra: I am Ra. There is but one service. The Law is One. The offering of self to Creator is the greatest service, the unity, the fountainhead. The entity who seeks the One Creator is with infinite intelligence. From this seeking, from this offering, a great multiplicity of opportunities will evolve depending upon the mind/body/spirit complexes’ distortions with regard to the various illusory aspects or energy centers of the various complexes of your illusion.

Thus, some become healers, some workers, some teachers, and so forth.

Quote:75.23 Questioner: I am sorry for the confusion. Sometimes, as you say, sound vibration complexes are not very adequate, and I’m sorry.

You made the statement in a previous session that the true adept lives more and more as it is. Will you explain and expand upon that statement?

Ra: I am Ra. Each entity is the Creator. The entity, as it becomes more and more conscious of its self, gradually comes to the turning point at which it determines to seek either in service to others or in service to self. The seeker becomes the adept when it has balanced with minimal adequacy the energy centers red, orange, yellow, and blue with the addition of the green for the positive, thus moving into indigo work.

The adept then begins to do less of the preliminary or outer work, having to do with function, and begins to effect the inner work which has to do with being. As the adept becomes a more and more consciously crystallized entity it gradually manifests more and more of that which it always has been since before time; that is, the One Infinite Creator.