(07-16-2011, 06:22 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(07-16-2011, 04:36 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:

(07-16-2011, 01:08 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:

(07-16-2011, 12:25 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Too often, when I am in a teach position, I try to make this "trespass into the realms of learn/teaching".

How do you do this?

Uncomfortable with the role of teacher, I revert the relationship to be of shared learning. In other words, I excuse my opportunity to teach by 'jumping off sides' (trespass into the realms) and place myself on the learner's 'bench.'

Did I make any sense?

One of the more powerful 'STS' acts is a form of conscious manipulation. That's where you can treat others as an extension of yourself. It's a form of using others as learning 'tools' without regard to where they're 'at'. What the manipulator gets out of it is a form of dominance from humiliation of trespass and an understanding of how to improve the effectiveness of that role.

(07-16-2011, 07:57 PM)Icaro Wrote: You sound like you're simply trying to say that you would rather avoid confrontation, because you value the other's emotional attachment to their point of view, and you don't necessarily like telling someone they may be wrong (which is a compassionate perspective). Maybe?

(07-16-2011, 10:17 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I understand what you're saying, I think, but I'm not sure why you see teaching as manipulative. If you know something and someone else doesn't, what's wrong with teaching them?

Do you have difficulty accepting yourself as an authority?

(07-16-2011, 10:50 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:

(07-16-2011, 10:17 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I understand what you're saying, I think, but I'm not sure why you see teaching as manipulative. If you know something and someone else doesn't, what's wrong with teaching them?

Do you have difficulty accepting yourself as an authority?

I do. Other than individuals I have a direct bond with, I do. Not so much in practical affairs, but affairs of emotion and spirit cause me to become detached.

(04-17-2011, 06:19 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: We can all mean the exact same thing and say it with completely different descriptions.

(04-17-2011, 10:43 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Say it again!!!

For the answer to this query we must begin with the
consideration of the serpent, signifying wisdom. This symbol has the value
of the ease of viewing the two faces of the one who is wise. Positive wisdom
adorns the brow indicating indigo-ray work. Negative wisdom, by which we
intend to signify expressions which effectually separate the self from the
other-self, may be symbolized by poison of the fangs. To use that which a
mind/body/spirit complex has gained of wisdom for the uses of separation is
to invite the fatal bite of that wisdom’s darker side.

Signify expressions: indicate emotions into words. Declare the process of making known one's thoughts. Exchange boasts that convey one's opinions publicly.

(04-17-2011, 06:19 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I want to rant....

One's own perspective and understanding need not fit within the framework definition of a declared textbook to be defined as the same damn thing. In reality, one's enlightenment need not be explained in a centralized way to appease an agreed upon textbook terminology. The explanation one gives for their enlightened view can equal an explanation that sounds entirely different because at the core vibration, they can be the same. 

In fact, when the textbook becomes a centralized method of discounting our innate abilities, this textbook becomes our own box/prison. At that point, one should toss that textbook in the river and try their damnedest to get out of that box. 

We can all mean the exact same thing and say it with completely different descriptions. Allow the discrepancy with acceptance. If we look past the intellect and into the heart of others, we, in turn, seek our heart within. In so doing, we find our essence, our nature, our role, our path, whatever you decide to call it. 

(04-17-2011, 10:43 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:

(04-17-2011, 10:40 AM)3DMonkey Wrote:

(04-13-2011, 10:42 AM)Spectrum Wrote: Since wisdom came up in this thread, I thought the following might also be applicable:

Session 101, December 21, 1982 Wrote:Ra: For the answer to this query we must begin with the
consideration of the serpent, signifying wisdom. This symbol has the value
of the ease of viewing the two faces of the one who is wise. Positive wisdom
adorns the brow indicating indigo-ray work. Negative wisdom, by which we
intend to signify expressions which effectually separate the self from the
other-self, may be symbolized by poison of the fangs. To use that which a
mind/body/spirit complex has gained of wisdom for the uses of separation is
to invite the fatal bite of that wisdom’s darker side.

Say it again!!!

For the answer to this query we must begin with the
consideration of the serpent, signifying wisdom. This symbol has the value
of the ease of viewing the two faces of the one who is wise. Positive wisdom
adorns the brow indicating indigo-ray work. Negative wisdom, by which we
intend to signify expressions which effectually separate the self from the
other-self, may be symbolized by poison of the fangs. To use that which a
mind/body/spirit complex has gained of wisdom for the uses of separation is
to invite the fatal bite of that wisdom’s darker side.

Signify expressions: indicate emotions into words. Declare the process of making known one's thoughts. Exchange boasts that convey one's opinions publicly.



(The session goes further to explain the catalyst of an actual spider bite, and that this was a physical manifestation of a fifth density negative's attempt. )

My rant was trying to tell me something methinks. That is, everyone is right and I don't need to tell them otherwise. (Get out the bug spray)