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RE: Developing a social memory complex - Doomchief - 05-06-2021
I feel spiritual entropy can be linked to this thought:
Quote:20.17 Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. There was not a strong negative polarization due to this influx. The lessening of the life span was due primarily to the lack of the building up of positive orientation. When there is no progress those conditions which grant progress are gradually lost. This is one of the difficulties of remaining unpolarized. The chances, shall we say, of progress become steadily less.So the energy if not used the opportunities for spiritual development become rare leading to a snowball effect until the reversing of the situation would take a lot of effort. I imagine it this way: if you move in the direction of your desire there are more chances in the Potential for its manifestation and vice versa if you do not use the catalyst the probability of the desired outcome becomes slimmer and you have to travel further in the "opposite" direction.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 04:46 AM)Doomchief Wrote: I feel spiritual entropy can be linked to this thought:
Quote:20.17 Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. There was not a strong negative polarization due to this influx. The lessening of the life span was due primarily to the lack of the building up of positive orientation. When there is no progress those conditions which grant progress are gradually lost. This is one of the difficulties of remaining unpolarized. The chances, shall we say, of progress become steadily less.So the energy if not used the opportunities for spiritual development become rare leading to a snowball effect until the reversing of the situation would take a lot of effort. I imagine it this way: if you move in the direction of your desire there are more chances in the Potential for its manifestation and vice versa if you do not use the catalyst the probability of the desired outcome becomes slimmer and you have to travel further in the "opposite" direction.
Yes, to overcome entropy requires progress, and it's the same with spiritual entropy I think. When the lack of progress becomes worse than the increase of entropy, then the entropy will increase, leading to shorter lifespans.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
Some people may think, having Venus connected to the heart chakra (as I wrote in a previous post), so what? It's highly significant, for it means having Ra connected to one's heart. That will ignite our connection to intelligent infinity. Ra then becomes a guide withing ourselves for building a STO SMC. (If my dot connections are accurate.)
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
Now an additional idea came to my mind. If it's true that connecting the heart chakra to planet Venus means a connection to Ra, then why can't Ra just telepathically communicate with our minds? The answer that came to me is that if I start hearing voices in my head claiming to be from Ra, then how do I know that it's the real Ra and not some STS impostor? Also, how do I know that it's a real communication and not just my own subconscious playing tricks with me? And in addition that that there needs to be a broadband communication for it to be effective and not just a stream of thoughts which is a very narrow band communication.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
I really like the term harvest (some people in the New Age community dislike it, haha), because it to me means preserving what is valuable in our civilization and in our personal third density individuality. However I must confess that I dislike the term 'service'. To me service is for businesses and for robots (in a near future). The good thing is that service to others (STO) in an SMC sense means service to everybody, including oneself. So it's basically not service at all, and instead doing what one wants to do.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
Could Ra then have used a better term than 'service'? No, because it's an excellent term for describing the current mainstream society. It makes a clear distinction between service-to-self and service-to-others relevant to our current situation. It's only from a future perspective that the term service starts to seem dubious. Imagine the technology available to advanced civilizations. That kind of technology, indistinguishable from magic, can do all the service we want.
Service as self-sacrifice is actually generally bad, since the self is a part of the whole and neglecting or disregarding the self is dysfunctional. This is illustrated in the Star Wars movies where the Sith are service-to-self, they care only about themselves, while the Jedi are selfless, they care only about others. Neither the Sith nor the Jedi have the balance of the Force (STO in an SMC sense).
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
How will Ra communicate to us through our hearts? A scary thought came to me which is that the heart communication will be between oneself and others. In my ego consciousness I'm essentially afraid of everybody. With the Ra connection that fear will be replaced by a sense of being one with other people. That's mindblowing. And it makes sense, because my own heart communicating only with my own mind would be very limited and probably even make me stuck in separation.
Then what about interacting with people in STS consciousness? No fear there either! Because the STS people are also a part of the one infinite creator and it's just that they don't know it. So even interacting with STS people is interacting with the infinite creator, namely, myself.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
Is the infinite creator larger than ourselves? It depends on the perspective. As infinite consciousness we are the infinite creator yet in manifested form we are finite. Even Christ, who is one with God, is finite (with infinite potential), and that's why he said that the Father is greater than Him.
Even a social memory complex is puny compared to the infinite creator. At the same time, a global SMC is enormous compared to our individual self. So there is a whole spectrum of perspectives to consider when comparing oneself to the infinite creator (as I did in my previous post).
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 06:41 AM)Anders Wrote: ...Imagine the technology available to advanced civilizations. That kind of technology, indistinguishable from magic, can do all the service we want...
In a fully automated society, what will give the service to flowers of finding them beautiful ?
Our service is still needed/wanted even with full automation. In fact, once everything is fully automated we are free to serve in the ways that matters the most to the Creation. We are free to serve in the ways we were created to serve. We were not created to temper steel. We were created to love, make love and notice beauty in the Creation. This we shall do in joy.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Minyatur - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 10:03 AM)Patrick Wrote: We were not created to temper steel.
Well Ra says in our design we are intended to be drawn towards the making, holding and using of physical tools.
So technically speaking, we were kind of created to temper steel. This, among other things also of course.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 10:18 AM)Minyatur Wrote:(05-06-2021, 10:03 AM)Patrick Wrote: We were not created to temper steel.
Well Ra says in our design we are intended to be drawn towards the making, holding and using of physical tools.
So technically speaking, we were kind of created to temper steel. This, among other things also of course.
It's definitely a required step in order for us to learn what is our real nature, our real service. While it is a required step in discovery, it is not the reason for which we were Created for. In fact, doing this the Logos made it more difficult for us to become aware of what our true service is. Yet we are meeting the challenge quite well.
Once we are satisfied that these other things are not what keeps us the most in joy, we can fully embrace our real service to the Creation.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 10:03 AM)Patrick Wrote:(05-06-2021, 06:41 AM)Anders Wrote: ...Imagine the technology available to advanced civilizations. That kind of technology, indistinguishable from magic, can do all the service we want...
In a fully automated society, what will give the service to flowers of finding them beautiful ?
Our service is still needed/wanted even with full automation. In fact, once everything is fully automated we are free to serve in the ways that matters the most to the Creation. We are free to serve in the ways we were created to serve. We were not created to temper steel. We were created to love, make love and notice beauty in the Creation. This we shall do in joy.
That's a better meaning of service. Service is the attention we give! We can already see this on a small scale on the internet where people's attention is becoming increasingly important and money becoming more "dirty" so to speak, meaning money attracting more spiritual entropy than the pure conscious attention itself.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
Holy smokes! Ra is the SMC that will be the seed four our human global SMC here on earth. That's an idea that hit me. Because the Venus "sphere" as Gigi Young calls it, will merge with the earth "sphere". And Ra, then, in a fractal manner, is the equivalent of a collective Wanderer. Ra is 6th density, and most Wanderers on earth are also 6th density.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
How will an SMC work in practice. According to Gigi Young Mu was a feminine culture, and to me it sounded very much like a proto-SMC, without the human mind developed yet. And women, also men I assume, did what felt good. If it felt good it was divine and if it felt bad it was something to avoid. This worked well according to Gigi, until the time of Atlantis when the mind and the masculine principle was developed. In one way it was an improvement, and in another way it was detrimental to the Mu civilization, because in Atlantis when the mind was added there had to be unity between the mind and the feeling/intuition which wasn't developed yet, so it was no longer possible in Atlantis to use only feelings to know what to do.
And still today in our civilization we have a split between mind and feeling/intuition so that we can't rely on only what feels good, because then we would take opium everyday basically and be unable to do anything. What will happen in an STO SMC I believe is that there will be an integration between mind and feelings so that we again can do what feels good and it will at the same time be correct actions and with mental understanding of why and how. So it's similar in a way to Mu yet on a much higher stage of development.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021
People will likely be doing ayuascha ceremonies to develop themselves.
These would be 4.1 who cannot access highwr intuitiin or .6 .7
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
Aha! I now got a new idea. The ego is the yellow ray blockage that splits our mind and feelings, so that we essentially often have to force ourselves to do what feels bad, instead of as in Mu where they did what felt good instead, except in Mu there was a disconnect between the mind (higher chakras) and the heart chakra. We need to connect the heart chakra both to the lower and to the higher chakras.
Here is a new video where Shunyamurti talks about the ego:
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021
The ego is the yellow ray software. The os. Without it, there is no mbs to function in 3rd density.
The higher density spirit would have to devolve to operate here. Fragment itself. The ego software allows simulations which do less fragmentation. A god can also remanifest their body dna by dna here.
Or they can directly descend. There wont be much left of matter however.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
An illustration I find funny of the difference between ordinary ego consciousness and my idea of STO SMC consciousness is that in the ego case delayed gratification is a virtue, while for the STO SMC delayed gratification is unnecessary and even a dysfunction. For example if it feels good to eat the candy immediately, then in the SMC case it is the correct virtuous action.
Quote:"Delayed gratification, or deferred gratification, is the resistance to the temptation of an immediate pleasure in the hope of obtaining a valuable and long-lasting reward in the long-term. ... A growing body of literature has linked the ability to delay gratification to a host of other positive outcomes, including academic success, physical health, psychological health, and social competence.
A person's ability to delay gratification relates to other similar skills such as patience, impulse control, self-control and willpower, all of which are involved in self-regulation." - Wikipedia
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 04:09 PM)Anders Wrote: An illustration I find funny of the difference between ordinary ego consciousness and my idea of STO SMC consciousness is that in the ego case delayed gratification is a virtue, while for the STO SMC delayed gratification is unnecessary and even a dysfunction. For example if it feels good to eat the candy immediately, then in the SMC case it [i]is[i] the correct virtuous action.
Quote:"Delayed gratification, or deferred gratification, is the resistance to the temptation of an immediate pleasure in the hope of obtaining a valuable and long-lasting reward in the long-term. ... A growing body of literature has linked the ability to delay gratification to a host of other positive outcomes, including academic success, physical health, psychological health, and social competence.
A person's ability to delay gratification relates to other similar skills such as patience, impulse control, self-control and willpower, all of which are involved in self-regulation." - Wikipedia
Yes the food replicafor tech from star trek is like 4th density civ. Whst you want when you want it. Amaxon prime same day delivery. Drone day delivery. Lol
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 04:11 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Yes the food replicafor tech from star trek is like 4th density civ. Whst you want when you want it. Amaxon prime same day delivery. Drone day delivery. Lol
No, Star Trek is totally third density as I see it, separate egos in a rigid power-over structure, without SMC. Having abundance of food for example, doesn't remove the need for delayed gratification. The key is that in ego consciousness we actually don't know what is the correct action, so delayed gratification may be a sign of self-discipline while from an SMC perspective delayed gratification is self-torture and therefore insanity. A person might believe that forcing oneself to go to the gym is a virtue while in fact it may or may not be a good action from a wholeness perspective. The ego is always totally confused and constantly has to torture itself and others. Even with the definition of the ego as a yellow ray blockage, that blockage has formed the entire person, and therefore the ego is the "me" in third density separation consciousness.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021
The ego is missing the lesson here. The ego sees star trek as 3rd density because the egobisb3rd density as is the humans in it.
Just as a human family sees all families as non smcs. Because they forgot.
Attemoting to judge the outside universe by internal criteria confuses what is outside with what is internally created. But that is intentional under the law of confusion
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
Star Trek teaches some higher density concepts such as the Prime Directive. It does so in a cartoonish way as it being a law made by the federation. Still, it points to real truths I think. Also Star Trek shows contrasts of how the future will NOT be, such as the transhumanist hive mind Borg civilization with complete centralized control of cyborgs by a Borg queen. That's the horror example of how NOT to form a SMC, haha.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-06-2021
The social intelligence of our current third density world is basically at the same level as baboon societies. And sci-fi movies like Star Trek and Star Wars reflect that level of social intelligence. So it becomes ridiculously cartoonish compared to what the actual future will be like I think but sci-fi has lots of hints of truth in them. And also, I imagine that Star Wars scenarios might be going on in the universe, not as serious conflicts but as entertainment and creativity, to explore, create and experiment with new possibilities, scenarios and developments.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Ymarsakar - 05-06-2021
(05-06-2021, 05:41 PM)Anders Wrote: Star Trek teaches some higher density concepts such as the Prime Directive. It does so in a cartoonish way as it being a law made by the federation. Still, it points to real truths I think. Also Star Trek shows contrasts of how the future will NOT be, such as the transhumanist hive mind Borg civilization with complete centralized control of cyborgs by a Borg queen. That's the horror example of how NOT to form a SMC, haha.
Food replicators, not that other stuff. Losing track 9f the subject.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-07-2021
(05-06-2021, 07:34 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Food replicators, not that other stuff. Losing track 9f the subject.
Technology will remain useful in third density. It's the social aspect I believe will radically change. A social memory complex is another level of organism. Collective consciousness. It's difficult to imagine but the social intelligence must be magnitudes higher than we have in society today.
I believe there will be an integration of our third density civilization and an emerging SMC taking us later into fourth density. So that it will be a gradual transition into fourth density over many years. Ra said:
Quote:"This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour." - Law of One 9.4
Sounds like a sudden change, although it's hard to tell what that means in terms of years. There must be a gradual transition I think, even if it happens quickly from a historical perspective. Will there be a need for food replicators in fourth density? Maybe not, because there is also spiritual technologies, and in higher densities even the ability to think a construction like the Great Pyramid into existence instead of building it with traditional technology.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-07-2021
Dr. Bruce Lipton said that when humanity has developed a "voice of One" as a planet we will be able to interact with civilizations on other planets. It makes sense and then it will take a while before we have official ET contact. There is also another integration that needs to take place, probably before official ET contact which is what historian Richard Dolan calls the breakaway civilization. He also mentioned that there might be an additional ancient breakaway civilization and indeed Gigi Young talks about two breakaway civilizations in this video:
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-07-2021
They said in one of the L/L podcasts that it may exponentially more difficult to make the social relationships work for each person that is added to the group. Then it means that developing a social memory complex is way beyond the capacity of our ordinary third density selves. Why? Because we can hardly even create a harmonious relationship between only two people! Imagine a "marriage" between billions of people working harmoniously. Mindblowing.
So what to do? How to achieve any kind of success in such overwhelmingly difficult task? One key that many people talk about is heart connections, and the HeartMath Institute has even done scientific research showing that there can be heart coherence between people and even between people and the whole planet. And heart coherence I theorize has the kind of infinite intelligence that's needed to make collective consciousness work.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 05-07-2021
(05-07-2021, 07:29 PM)Anders Wrote: ...heart coherence I theorize has the kind of infinite intelligence that's needed to make collective consciousness work.
Very perceptive.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-08-2021
The Bible seems to be written to fit several stages in Spiral Dynamics, so for example at stage Red people need to learn about an angry and vengeful God because that's the only God they understand. Or as Ken Wilber said, if people had tried to protest peacefully on the streets of Nazi Germany they would have been overrun by tanks.
This includes the Book of Revelation. And to me the victorious one smashing the nations to pieces like pottery means a service-to-others social memory complex that will replace the need for separate governments. And then it's a peaceful process. The same with 1/3 of humanity killed where "killed" means ego death I think.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-08-2021
Why is ego death necessary? Because Jesus said so, just kidding but he did say that those who lose their lives will find it, meaning ego death I assume. The law is One. So who is control? Not the separate ego. The One is its own control. Therefore the nonduality teachers are correct to say that the ego is an illusion, or the new definition I learned where Ra said that the ego is a yellow ray blockage. So ego death is simply the removal of that blockage.
Anna Brown has this new video where she talks about how there is no need to wait or do things to realize the ego illusion: