(08-27-2020, 04:11 PM)Glow Wrote:

(08-27-2020, 02:38 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: I thought everyone could see tiny molecules in the air. Sort of like pre-HDTV.

I can see dust flying around but I cannot see the molecule solid things are made of as seperate molecules. That’s pretty different from my day to day experience.

Though I think I can now picture Aion description better after last night.

At night in bed sometimes something will be in my room and it’s visible but only because the space is different. There is a thickness, almost darkness or density to the clear air where the beings are.

Usually they hover around close or move over top or to the side of me but are seemless, one package of (?) but last two night one has been around that is more loosely packed, basically I can see the space between the spaces they are in. It looked like it was an uncountable number of individual bits that could just change position and orientation to one another.

if you guys are seeing actual matter like that I can kind of picture it now.

It must be beautiful to see a tree like that or well anything.

Very interesting how we all experience things so different.

(08-27-2020, 02:52 PM)Aion Wrote:

(08-25-2020, 06:41 AM)KaliSouth Wrote:

(08-25-2020, 01:49 AM)Aion Wrote:

(08-25-2020, 12:34 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: I'm not psychic but I can sense a person's or group's energy. It can be exhausting.

I'd say that's along the lines of psychic empathy.

Really?! That’s interesting to know. I was wondering what it would be like to be able to actually read energy. At the moment I feel it and most of it (energy from other people who are engulfed in 3D emotional immaturity) repulses me. I’m trying very hard not to judge other-selves.

That's understandably difficult, especially if people are putting off emotions that you find very unpleasant. There are a couple ways that might alleviate it, in my experience.
One is trying to get more in touch with those emotions within yourself that repulse you, this can often lessen the impact from others. There is a notion in various healing modalities that when someone emotionally or energetically affects us it is amplifying some corresponding part of ourselves. Hence why compassion, understanding and love can be powerful 'protections' in the sense that if you are holding those things deep within yourself it unseats some of their opposite emotions which might be agitated by the added energy of others.
Another approach is transmutation, which is admittedly aided if you do the previous approach as well. This means receiving those unpleasant emotions and then trying to rise them up in to higher states. Some people can do this naturally, others might use techniques, but if successful it can sometimes lead to healing experiences for both individuals. It is not always easy though, some people have very strong emotions that are not at all easily shifted.

Nobody lives in a closed system. We are all connected to each other and to the planet. We all gotta get used to it one way or another.

(08-28-2020, 12:30 AM)KaliSouth Wrote:

(08-27-2020, 04:11 PM)Glow Wrote:

(08-27-2020, 02:38 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: I thought everyone could see tiny molecules in the air. Sort of like pre-HDTV.

I can see dust flying around but I cannot see the molecule solid things are made of as seperate molecules. That’s pretty different from my day to day experience.

Though I think I can now picture Aion description better after last night.

At night in bed sometimes something will be in my room and it’s visible but only because the space is different. There is a thickness, almost darkness or density to the clear air where the beings are.

Usually they hover around close or move over top or to the side of me but are seemless, one package of (?) but last two night one has been around that is more loosely packed, basically I can see the space between the spaces they are in. It looked like it was an uncountable number of individual bits that could just change position and orientation to one another.

if you guys are seeing actual matter like that I can kind of picture it now.

It must be beautiful to see a tree like that or well anything.

Very interesting how we all experience things so different.

Yes, it is amazing. I cannot see the molecules that make up solid objects, but the "air" that surrounds us looks grainy to me. I suppose everything is made up of atoms anyway so this knowledge manifests for each of us seekers differently.

I can't see beings around me yet, but lately my spirit guides have made their presence known to me via intuition- suddenly a thought or a feeling will just pop up from nowhere. Once they woke me up in the very early hours of the morning to look at my alarm clock. They communicate with me using numbers, so when I woke up for real a few hours later I had a chance to look up the meaning of the message.

A few weeks ago I was in a second-hand bookshop browsing the esoteric section and they brought my attention to a particular book, which I then purchased. It was like they were saying intuitively "this book will tell you who we are". I think this is "claircognisance". I don't know if that it psychic. Maybe it is.

It's such an amazing process to be going through.

(08-28-2020, 07:45 AM)Patrick Wrote: Visual Snow is just like Tinnitus. Science has absolutely no framework to explain those observations. I know that my Ear Tones are contextual and a spiritual phenomenon. So it's probably the same thing for Visual Snow.

(08-28-2020, 12:53 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote:

(08-28-2020, 12:30 AM)KaliSouth Wrote:

(08-27-2020, 04:11 PM)Glow Wrote:

(08-27-2020, 02:38 PM)KaliSouth Wrote: I thought everyone could see tiny molecules in the air. Sort of like pre-HDTV.

I can see dust flying around but I cannot see the molecule solid things are made of as seperate molecules. That’s pretty different from my day to day experience.

Though I think I can now picture Aion description better after last night.

At night in bed sometimes something will be in my room and it’s visible but only because the space is different. There is a thickness, almost darkness or density to the clear air where the beings are.

Usually they hover around close or move over top or to the side of me but are seemless, one package of (?) but last two night one has been around that is more loosely packed, basically I can see the space between the spaces they are in. It looked like it was an uncountable number of individual bits that could just change position and orientation to one another.

if you guys are seeing actual matter like that I can kind of picture it now.

It must be beautiful to see a tree like that or well anything.

Very interesting how we all experience things so different.

Yes, it is amazing. I cannot see the molecules that make up solid objects, but the "air" that surrounds us looks grainy to me. I suppose everything is made up of atoms anyway so this knowledge manifests for each of us seekers differently.

I can't see beings around me yet, but lately my spirit guides have made their presence known to me via intuition- suddenly a thought or a feeling will just pop up from nowhere. Once they woke me up in the very early hours of the morning to look at my alarm clock. They communicate with me using numbers, so when I woke up for real a few hours later I had a chance to look up the meaning of the message.

A few weeks ago I was in a second-hand bookshop browsing the esoteric section and they brought my attention to a particular book, which I then purchased. It was like they were saying intuitively "this book will tell you who we are". I think this is "claircognisance". I don't know if that it psychic. Maybe it is.

It's such an amazing process to be going through.

The grainy look could be a condition called Visual Snow.

(08-20-2020, 11:40 AM)dexter101 Wrote: title is the question. would  be really interesting to know. also were you born with them or did you develop them trough training? how long did it take?

(08-22-2020, 08:13 PM)peregrine Wrote: I must observe that I am very surprised.  Very often I see people on these forums who speak with such supreme authority about what the LOO means or what this or that means.  I just assumed they were brilliantly clairvoyant, but I don't see them coming forward now to say so.  How odd.  If they don't have miracle-born crystalline inner knowing, I wonder why they type out verbiage as if they do?

Or, alternatively, perhaps I'm just being cynical?  Sometimes it's hard to say.

(09-12-2020, 03:11 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: 1. Would be peregrine's cynicism.

(09-12-2020, 11:15 AM)peregrine Wrote: ...(BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)...

(09-12-2020, 02:34 PM)Patrick Wrote:

(09-12-2020, 11:15 AM)peregrine Wrote: ...(BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)...

Yeah maybe mods thinks other mods are taking care of things while they take a little break.  Except they are all thinking that at the same time.

(09-12-2020, 10:51 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Blah blah blah

(08-22-2020, 08:13 PM)peregrine Wrote: Very often I see people on these forums who speak with such supreme authority about what the LOO means or what this or that means. I just assumed they were brilliantly clairvoyant, but I don't see them coming forward now to say so. How odd. If they don't have miracle-born crystalline inner knowing, I wonder why they type out verbiage as if they do?

Or, alternatively, perhaps I'm just being cynical? Sometimes it's hard to say.

(09-13-2020, 06:25 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: I think of that old "crystalline inner knowing" as a bunch of idiosyncratic study material, quite rich and varied, which I can keep working with while breaking the old mold and growing in a way I couldn't have imagined before, but which is at the same time far less dramatic than the stuff I used to imagine.

Ymarsakar Wrote:It is connected to all the other negative experiences you have had.

Ymarsakar Wrote:Also, I know why or rather who, was involved in giving you that frustration. But I won't say it, as it would not be useful to anyone here. It's not who you think it is.

(09-12-2020, 10:51 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: (BTW, I've only been acting this way since the moderators seemed to have all fallen asleep.)

Most seekers and those on the adept path, are busy with their astrological pre incarnative, aka pre mortal life planning, events and stuff in 2020. Some are slow, others are fast, and some have finished/graduated.

Judging by  the LL LAO podcasts, the research group is progressing in their seeking whatever they are seeking, but moderating a forum of adults, is not high on the priority list. That or there's a frequency/density shift and barrier.

Thanks for the tip.

It probably feels unfriendly to some.

So, to be more direct: In recent years there has been surge, it has seemed to me, of members who don't stay around all that long, but use these spaces to declare that they have the inside scoop on the deep secrets of the universe.  Typically, they don't say, "It looks to me like..." or "As I see it...."  Rather, they express themselves as if they are gifted oracles when they show no basis for this assumption.

To explain this to non empaths, it is not that it is unfriendly or friendly. Rather, to you, you have processed all your experiences and reactions to those events in sequence. But when you output and project your conclusion in another reaction, they receive most or all of the negative feedback and emotions you felt dealing with all those other "members".

In 4th density telempathic civilizations, they have to keep strict control of certain internal emotions and reactions, because it is too easy to violate etiquette otherwise. To human 3rd density civilizations, driving into someone's home is a boundary problem and conflict. To tele empathic groups, manifesting an action/reaction based on your negative experience, means everybody else will get that negative experience of yours, except this time it is bundled up all in one shot.

This is in addition to other things such as the intent or idea that other member's behavior applies to someone that is not one of those other members. It's what people argue endlessly online about "I didn't write that". This doesn't apply to most online written communication, because the bandwidth of text is very limited and specific. So unless you imply or state that someone said x or y, they can't take offense that someone thought they said something they did not. However, if you are emoting emotions across a 4th density/ heart chakra channel, then that's like a voice or body language "tell". You say one thing, but your voice or body language says the opposite. This is compounded by many empaths not having a very good or disciplined control of their abilities and senses.

As for gifted oracles, channels exist. Unless you have some kind of "ability" to discern that, by what basis are they supposed to justify stuff that does not exist in 3rd density? You are on a forum, talking about an imaginary entity or alien called iamraw (by sound frequency naming). Verifying channeled information has been a thorny subject for quite some time now, since like the beginning. The same applies for people's claims of psychic abilities, or any other ability such as military experience.

(09-13-2020, 01:44 PM)dexter101 Wrote: ...
ultimately i think we are all just angry that there is noone out there fighting for us (so it seems) and the elite only seem to progress with their agenda every year unhindered.
...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2007/2007_0211.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...In this regard we would suggest that the skillful choice is always to work on the self without regard for working with other entities. Service to others, working upon what you perceive needs to be done in the world, begins and ends within yourself. Until the point at which you are asked specific questions that you may answer in what you hope is a spiritually helpful manner, the work you do on yourself is sufficient and more than adequate in terms of how you may affect the consciousness of planet Earth. Change yourself and you change the world. That is how powerful you really are...

Quote:80.11 Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the seeming polarization towards service to self because the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1995/1995_0924.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...The focus upon the self in the means of balancing distortions and looking for ways to understand more of what is occurring within the self is an activity that may seem to some to be full of pride and ego, yet we would suggest that such a concentration of an entity’s attention upon its own self in that manner is a means by which a seeker grows, for it needs to be aware of the activity of intellect, of emotion, and of the spirit that moves within one’s own being. Yet that information is used only to temper the steel, shall we say, the character of the entity, and not to impose this character upon another...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2001/2001_0204.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...Many times, it seems to each, that there is no way that one person can be of service, that one person’s light can make a difference. However, this instrument is fond of saying that in a dark place the light of one candle can be seen for quite a distance. Metaphysically, this is far more true even than the physical truth of candles and sight. Each of you makes a significant difference to the lightening of the planet as well as to the lightening of your soul. For when each of you does one, each of you is doing the other. To work on the self is to work on the world. Indeed, to work on the self is the most direct and effective way to work on the outer world in a metaphysical sense...

(09-13-2020, 01:50 PM)Patrick Wrote:

(09-13-2020, 01:44 PM)dexter101 Wrote: ...
ultimately i think we are all just angry that there is noone out there fighting for us (so it seems) and the elite only seem to progress with their agenda every year unhindered.
...

If our side is working in the ways mentioned in the following quotes, then it would not be externally visible until it reaches a tipping point.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2007/2007_0211.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...In this regard we would suggest that the skillful choice is always to work on the self without regard for working with other entities. Service to others, working upon what you perceive needs to be done in the world, begins and ends within yourself. Until the point at which you are asked specific questions that you may answer in what you hope is a spiritually helpful manner, the work you do on yourself is sufficient and more than adequate in terms of how you may affect the consciousness of planet Earth. Change yourself and you change the world. That is how powerful you really are...

Quote:80.11 Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the seeming polarization towards service to self because the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1995/1995_0924.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...The focus upon the self in the means of balancing distortions and looking for ways to understand more of what is occurring within the self is an activity that may seem to some to be full of pride and ego, yet we would suggest that such a concentration of an entity’s attention upon its own self in that manner is a means by which a seeker grows, for it needs to be aware of the activity of intellect, of emotion, and of the spirit that moves within one’s own being. Yet that information is used only to temper the steel, shall we say, the character of the entity, and not to impose this character upon another...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2001/2001_0204.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...Many times, it seems to each, that there is no way that one person can be of service, that one person’s light can make a difference. However, this instrument is fond of saying that in a dark place the light of one candle can be seen for quite a distance. Metaphysically, this is far more true even than the physical truth of candles and sight. Each of you makes a significant difference to the lightening of the planet as well as to the lightening of your soul. For when each of you does one, each of you is doing the other. To work on the self is to work on the world. Indeed, to work on the self is the most direct and effective way to work on the outer world in a metaphysical sense...

(09-13-2020, 01:53 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: dexter that does look dark, but likely due to lack of current intel. Please take a look at corey goode, john desouza, laura eisenhower, or portal2012 blog.

If an agent came to these forums, likely few if anyobe would recognize it. They might even be confused for the members that pere complained about

(09-13-2020, 02:20 PM)dexter101 Wrote: Hey that was a quick answer and a lot of quotes. thank you. that must have been a lot of effort. i know how hard it is to find quotes. I didn't know that in the process of removing distortions one can polarize negatively. I thought the more distortions are removed the more love is able to enter. it seems the path to spiritual growth is very similar in both polarities.

(09-13-2020, 01:44 PM)dexter101 Wrote: i wonder if what its like for the negatives here on earth. if they become psychic and grow their powers do higher positive beings become aware of them and try to stop them?
or are they free of opposition except from their own ranks?

(09-13-2020, 02:21 PM)dexter101 Wrote:

(09-13-2020, 01:53 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: dexter that does look dark, but likely due to lack of current intel. Please take a look at corey goode, john desouza, laura eisenhower, or portal2012 blog.

If an agent came to these forums, likely few if anyobe would recognize it. They might even be confused for the members that pere complained about

unfortunately I do not trust the people you have mentioned. i have read too many bad things about them.sorry.

(09-13-2020, 05:20 PM)Wanderer Seven Wrote: A great example is also the claim that human use of fossil fuel, by adding carbon dioxide we are creating a climate crisis. This is utter nonsense. This the greatest mass delusion of our time. Since the media has repeated for years that there is a consensus in science (there isn’t) and that it’s “settled.” False. So there is much deception of the masses. What the STS elites fear most is public awakening. Fear of climate change, fear of this person, that person. Don’t be manipulated.

The ironic thing is that our planet has far so long sequestered CO2, that plants are struggling. The climate is always changing due to various cycles, Milankovic cycles, solar cycles, and in a CO2 famine, the elites now want to herd us and control us by a falsehood, that we have to stop CO2 emissions. There is a backlash building among a large number of honest scientists (https://clintel.org  for one example) but if you listen to NPR, etc. they are “deniers” ... it’s an Orwellian world indeed. We need to learn how to discern!