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RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Black Dragon - 08-09-2020 (08-09-2020, 01:21 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote:I've heard that the prophet Enoch ascended as Metatron. I'll try to find the text, but in the book of Enoch when he is taken up, there are some very nasty "angels" just hanging around up there, and he asks which one would be his master. It ends up being Belial. I'll go see if I can get more clarity on the story, but the whole Enoch story seems to involve archons/space pirates, so I'm not surprised that you got false information from such a source.(08-09-2020, 01:06 PM)Diana Wrote:(08-08-2020, 05:06 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: When I had a problem with junebugs I asked Metatron to help take care of them and keep them out. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - dexter101 - 08-12-2020 (08-08-2020, 08:59 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: Mostly, it's the economic system that keeps us from making any real progress in the area of resource management. It's having sociopaths in control of our governments and corporations. We first have to learn how to detect then and get rid of them, perhaps with brain scans or just with people knowing what traits to look for. I'm not necessarily saying execute them, but marginalize them. Somebody who is provenly incapable of empathy should not be able to live or work in such a way as to have any impact/influence on or power over any aspect of the lives of other people or of animals in any way. This is step one in actually being able to fix things. They should be registered like a sex offender. I've heard of highly advanced 3d planet that's tweaked it's magnetic field to block all STS sociopaths from even being able to incarnate into their population.That would be a good endgame to consider. would you mind giving us more info about that 3d planet which has tweaked its magnetic field? how exactly did they do it? also what is your opinion on genetically modified organisms? i mean crops and lab-grown meat. stuff like that. do you consider radio waves to be polluting? and if so what alternatives do you know? RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - curio_city - 08-12-2020 I have considered whether eating meat is good for me or not. While on the one hand, eating exclusively plant-based does seem more sustainable and like it could comprise a healthy diet, plant-based does not always agree with one's makeup. Look at some of the proponents of the carnivore diet (namely the Petersons); eating exclusively meat-based has cured ailments that had plagued them all their lives. Further, if the UN is advocating a plant-based diet, I believe that alone calls for a high degree of skepticism. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - J.W. - 08-12-2020 Friends, your contributions and comments towards the subject of "end game" and how things "should be" for a "better" future. I hope that the stimulation and excitement to use one's imagination and "thoughts" to speculate is quite "exciting" and "interesting" to discuss. This is very innocent and enjoyable in this manner. If I could remind ourselves that nothing in existence truly is "destroy" or "wasted" in a sensible way, would it help you to let go of the yearning to "fix" and "correct" the illusion or the order/structure of the universe to the benefit of oneself? The theory of tweaking planetary field to cast away "sociopaths" from reincarnating, although sound very utopia, but is somewhat missing the entire of point of the Law of One. Those sociopaths is the other-selves. If such technology exist and cast away all "sociopaths" in the universe, it is similar to sweeping your darkest self under the rug. I understand there is a fear of the destruction and horror that are inflicted onto others due to the actions of "sociopaths." But, if you truly understand that the illusion of the materials has NOTHING to do with the spiritual growth other than providing "palpable" lessons for the Soul/energy, then at that point, one can release and let go of the obsession and temptation to "deflect" and "cure" the from the overall illusion of the physical vessel. As always, with the Love and Light from the infinite creator/s friends. Ease your minds, and spirit, all is well under the Law of One. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Infinite - 08-12-2020 (07-29-2020, 01:45 PM)RaEatsFoodstuffs Wrote: 1. Is there a time frame given for when this will occur. When I read this, to me it appears that it will coincide with the 4th density transition. I know this transition will take 100-700 years, so from my understanding it may occur when the earth is fully 4th density? It seems to me that this will occur at the end of the 3D cycle. As stated in the message, the reason is the accumulated karma. After that, there will be adjustments on Earth until the space/time 4D environment is formed. (07-29-2020, 01:45 PM)RaEatsFoodstuffs Wrote: 2. They state the third density vehicle will not be able to survive this but what will happen to our favorite animals? Trees? Etc? In other words how can rain, fire and wind only destroy third density and not second density? This indicates there may be some kind of protection? Or is it all being destroyed? I think the vegetation should prevail and in time animals will return. Only the 3D sphere that will remain disabled. (07-29-2020, 01:45 PM)RaEatsFoodstuffs Wrote: 3. Others claim that when this event occurs and if you're incarnate on this planet at that time, there will be higher density beings that will take them off planet within a flash of a second and place them in their appropriate locations. Any truth to this? Based on the L / L Research channels, I don't think there will be a "Project World Evacuation". Probably just some kind of help in the time / space environment. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Ray711 - 08-14-2020 (08-08-2020, 04:44 PM)Diana Wrote: Yes, very true. However, there are countless posts (I will post one below) on these forums that point out the differences between plant and animal life, if it matters to anyone how much suffering is caused. I think it can be misguided to base the quality of an entity's experience (or suffering) exclusively on a materialistic perspective. There are different experiments that, at face value, don't make much sense from that angle. For example, it is said that if you play rock music in an area where plants are growing, the plants will grow in the opposite direction. If you play classical music, the plants grow in the direction where the music is coming from. Ra also put trees pretty much on par with pets, as far as entities capable of giving and receiving love and making a transition to third density. (08-08-2020, 04:44 PM)Diana Wrote: Making both polarities available is for 3rd density beings only. So why cause pain to other life forms? I agree that in general a plant-based diet entails less suffering, but I'm convinced that it still very much entails a kind of suffering of its own, although an unavoidable one. I believe plants feel far more than it is apparent to us, as indicated above. (08-08-2020, 04:44 PM)Diana Wrote: You can, however, prune a plant and cut off leaves without killing it. You can harvest vegetables without killing the plant. Many plants "want" animals to eat them as it is their way of spreading seed and propagating. This is true, but in the case of (for example) fruit, often times we alter them genetically so that they don't produce seeds, reproduction being arguably the sole reason why fruit evolved through natural selection to provide nourishment to other species in the first place. Even if we don't genetically alter it, through farming we are reducing or eliminating as much as possible the reproductive function of fruit, and turning it solely into an object of nourishment for us. Does the fruit care that its self-interested reason for existing has been taken away? It's hard to say, and the implications of this (if any) are for each to consider. I only wish to point out that we live in a deliberately (seemingly) imperfect illusion where perfect love is not yet possible. Therefore, there are many different paths, many interpretations as to how to get as close to that ideal of perfect love as human experience allows. (08-08-2020, 04:44 PM)Diana Wrote: It can also be noted that plants are more akin to light, since photosynthesis is how they survive. So if one considers the ambrosia Ra speaks of, which to me is some kind of liquid light, then plants, rather than animals would be much closer to it, possibly rendering certain benefits to do with light. Good point. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Diana - 08-14-2020 (08-14-2020, 01:59 AM)Ray711 Wrote:(08-08-2020, 04:44 PM)Diana Wrote: Yes, very true. However, there are countless posts (I will post one below) on these forums that point out the differences between plant and animal life, if it matters to anyone how much suffering is caused. Well, this is what I was referring to when I talked about countless posts. ![]() Plants certainly have consciousness and intelligence. When considering life forms, evolution can be a major clue into understanding. For example, our brain stem is the "lizard" brain—pure survival instinct and reaction to the environment. We have developed the mammalian brain and finally the neocortex, which is the most recent and human brain portion—all through evolution. Encoded within the brain and the DNA are behaviors based on evolution which get passed on. We are closest to animals in our DNA and the way our brains function. The brain is what registers pain through the nervous system. There are two major points to consider: 1. What do we KNOW? ANIMALS We know animals feel pain. We know they suffer. We know that dairy cows wail and pound the ground when their calfs are taken away from them (probably to be tightly penned for a short, torturous life, fattened and slaughtered for veal). We know animals are terrified when taken to slaughter (the likes of which are so inhumane as to make a person sick). Even if the animal is slaughtered "humanely" the animal does not want to die, as witnessed by it's terror and fighting to get away (it's not like anyone injects them with a sedative first). How pigs are treated is beyond cruel. I'll stop here, but there is so much more. PLANTS Plants have reactions to certain things. They may have emotions. They may have a kind of fear based on survival instinct. We may assume they don't want to be extinguished and they have preferences in an environment, such as the music, which is sound—waves which can be felt. They are rooted in the ground and have evolved this way. They cannot move. Their root systems survive and communicate in a natural setting no matter how much their leaves, fruits, and stems are eaten. They did evolve to survive and propagate by animals eating them. They do not raise their young, but let the seeds go where they will. 2. Since we must eat, what causes the least harm to all life on the planet? This includes not only the life taken for food (plant or animal), but the ecosystem, environment, and health of the planet itself. It includes the idea that no human should starve or be hungry when we have enough resources to feed everyone. Farming animals for food is not only the biggest cause of greenhouses gases, it is also using up resources (water, plant crops) better used to feed people. (08-14-2020, 01:59 AM)Ray711 Wrote: Ra also put trees pretty much on par with pets, as far as entities capable of giving and receiving love and making a transition to third density. I actually think it's possible for trees to harvest to 4th density, as they are STO for sure—housing and protecting countless creatures of all kinds, providing shade, food, and love in their way. (08-14-2020, 01:59 AM)Ray711 Wrote:(08-08-2020, 04:44 PM)Diana Wrote: Making both polarities available is for 3rd density beings only. So why cause pain to other life forms? I have never said otherwise. My purpose is in causing the least amount of harm. This is how I make choices. I once read an account (it doesn't matter whether or not it's true) of an extraterrestrial race who practiced levitation when moving about so they didn't harm the grass, plant life, or insects when walking. When I read this, I was filled with desire to be able to live that way. But I can't here, or least I am unable. But in all things, as far as my awareness is cognizant, I seek to cause the least harm. I don't go crazy about this as though it's a religion; but it is a way of life. (08-14-2020, 01:59 AM)Ray711 Wrote:(08-08-2020, 04:44 PM)Diana Wrote: You can, however, prune a plant and cut off leaves without killing it. You can harvest vegetables without killing the plant. Many plants "want" animals to eat them as it is their way of spreading seed and propagating. Certainly humanity has raped, pillaged, destroyed, and disrespected this planet and all life on it, and continues to do so. I agree that the way we commercially grow plant crops is deplorable. But don't let this blur the issue of choosing plant or animal life for food. Because we have perverted farming plants is not an excuse to needlessly torture animals for food. I say needlessly because we can survive on plants. The choice must involve more criteria than that. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Eddie - 08-16-2020 RaEatsFoodstuffs 1. Is there a time frame given for when this will occur. When I read this, to me it appears that it will coincide with the 4th density transition. I know this transition will take 100-700 years, so from my understanding it may occur when the earth is fully 4th density? 2. They state the third density vehicle will not be able to survive this but what will happen to our favorite animals? Trees? Etc? In other words how can rain, fire and wind only destroy third density and not second density? This indicates there may be some kind of protection? Or is it all being destroyed? 3. Others claim that when this event occurs and if you're incarnate on this planet at that time, there will be higher density beings that will take them off planet within a flash of a second and place them in their appropriate locations. Any truth to this? Ben Davidson over at Suspicious0bservers has done a great job keeping up with this. View the Solar Catastrophe playlist on YouTube...watch all of these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zfMyzXqfI&list=PLHSoxioQtwZfY2ISsNBzJ-aOZ3APVS8br RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - unity100 - 08-19-2020 Quote:1. Is there a time frame given for when this will occur. When I read this, to me it appears that it will coincide with the 4th density transition. I know this transition will take 100-700 years, so from my understanding it may occur when the earth is fully 4th density? No special event or happening is expected or proposed in Ra material. The only thing that is spoken of is harvest. Its time is exact. And its in the past already. Ra says there will be an increase in what they call 'discomforts' due to Earth not being adjusted to the new vibrations, which would increase, then decrease, but the time for this seems to have passed. That seems to have been made in reference to earthquakes mainly - the disharmonious vibrations causing heating in earth's crust. Quote:2. They state the third density vehicle will not be able to survive this but what will happen to our favorite animals? Trees? Etc? In other words how can rain, fire and wind only destroy third density and not second density? This indicates there may be some kind of protection? Or is it all being destroyed? Rain, fire and wind destroy buildings by wearing them down. And other objects. It has been so throughout history. It will continue being so. Second density rarely creates objects or buildings. So it does not get destroyed. Living creatures do not get destroyed by time by getting worn down by wind or rain either. They reproduce and die. So it does not affect second density. This is not a special event but what has been happening throughout existence of human civilization. Quote:3. Others claim that when this event occurs and if you're incarnate on this planet at that time, there will be higher density beings that will take them off planet within a flash of a second and place them in their appropriate locations. Any truth to this? No. That's christian mythology of ascension projected to spiritualist literature. No such event is to happen according to Ra material. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Ymarsakar - 09-11-2020 Black Dragon Wrote: The quarantine didn't just not fix things, it made them worse and locked out anyone that would have come and fixed it. They made the mess, refused to fix it, and then locked out anyone who might do so and left us to rot. That's pretty heavy-handed and not very loving. The whole situation benefitted the STS side's agenda. They should have removed the elite and THEN put up a quarantine for a while, and like you said, let us start over on neutral ground. It's not even such a good opportunity to come polarize, because just like too little adversity, too much and there's less opportunity for growth, hence the small and relatively unsuccessful harvests. The way I see it, their decisions were not indicative of either love or wisdom. The q was to stop orion from setting up shop else where. Direct landings are not permitted. Orion has dead man trigger bombs implanted into nearly all humans. These will disintegrate soul memory and wipe out all xp, reset to 0. Would you land in a dictatorship if everyone there were rigged with suicide bpmbs? As for being abandoned by higher density civs.... you were not. It is .... complicated. Certain things are on a need to know basis. They are secretively incarnated to help disarm the bombs and doom triggers. Esp the keepers. They are source s secret divine weapons. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Ymarsakar - 09-11-2020 (07-29-2020, 01:45 PM)RaEatsFoodstuffs Wrote:Quote:There is a season upon your planet which shall be highly traumatic Most of this has been neutralized. A different timeline. The destruction was to wipe out a cabal controlled ai world. The dark is being dismantled from inside the matrix. So destruction is no longer necessary. You are in the steins;gate RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Patrick - 09-12-2020 (09-11-2020, 06:50 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: ...Orion has dead man trigger bombs implanted into nearly all humans. These will disintegrate soul memory and wipe out all xp, reset to 0... That would give a whole other meaning to how crazy wanderers actually are. ![]() Ra 12.28 Wrote:Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from? If anyone believes to have stuff like that. I recommend this meditation. Works quite well for me. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - Ymarsakar - 09-13-2020 That would give a whole other meaning to how crazy wanderers actually are. Foolish, perhaps. Foolhardy? Insane? Haha. If you had 5 million, 5 trillion, 5 whatever years of experience doing whatever, would you invest any part of your soul collective here and risk it all? These are powers and relationships built amongst what we might call the "gods" and angels, after all. Yes, wanderers are brave. Beyond the definition of the human term. They put their trust in the Divine Plan, that the Administrator or closest to God Source, knew what they were doing. And if not, and it all goes to another Mal/Mars situation, hey, at least we can restart this game without any Levels or experience! Let us become a rock, a crystal, or tree again and restart it all. Maybe this time we'll find things more challenging and less boring. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - houtje - 10-31-2020 (07-30-2020, 07:39 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: All that sounds pretty depressing, to not have accomplished anything worthwhile in 3d and then just be wiped out by cataclysms. I think I'll keep an open mind and open door to other possibilities before buying into that. This lifetime has been not much more than arbitrary suffering, with not many opportunities to have am positive impact on others or even fulfill my own desires. I'm sure it's like that for a lot of people. If I knew it was going to be nothing but this bullshit, I could have just stayed in my home density. The elite should be removed and we should have chance to have a worthwhile society/experience in 3d. They can use their anti-gravity craft to wait out any cataclysm or go spread their authoritarian trash disease to some other planet while the rest of us burn, drown, whatever? How wonderful, like a disease that consumes its host planet and then spreads. Isn't it the whole point that every experience is unique? No matter what happens or how, the only thing that matters is the experience. Even if it was largely the experience of disappointment, it's still perfectly valid and of no less importance than any other experience. You cannot appreciate the warmth of day if you've never experienced the cold of night. RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - houtje - 10-31-2020 (08-05-2020, 05:29 AM)J.W. Wrote: I agree with dreamoftheiris on this. That's one of the more beautiful things written by a incarnate human I've read in a long time. It makes my eyes a bit wet. Thank you! RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - manifestgirl - 11-01-2020 Ghostdancer17 your reply post was fascinating...how do you know all of this? Where has this knowledge come from, if I may ask? RE: The Upcoming Apocalypse - As Described in Law of One / Confederation Entities - unity100 - 11-15-2020 Ra noted that no kind of apocalypse/ascension would be happening. The traumatic difficulties would last for some time (already rising back in 1980), and then start to subside. Most of these were related to people starting to have problems when they start facing their real selves with the rising green vibration, and disharmony causing the Earth to heat up, leading to earthquakes and difficulties. It was also noted that we were not in the timeline of the predicted apocalypse of those like Nostradamus. |