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RE: Can beings, that are neither 50% STS, nor 50% STO ascend - rinzler - 03-08-2020

(03-04-2020, 08:53 PM)isis Wrote:
(03-03-2020, 06:58 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: I don't recall Ra saying that it's bad to not be polarized.
They called it the sinkhole of indifference, but didn't say it's worse than negative polarization.

4D negative is as close to hell as I can imagine. So how's that better than repeating a 3D cycle?

Although 3D can seem like hell at times too.





(03-03-2020, 05:37 PM)isis Wrote:
(03-03-2020, 05:32 PM)kraken99 Wrote: As I can understand, according the Ra it is better to be polarized even to the negative path than not to be polarized.

that's the part i find extremely retarded

"The polarization or choosing of each mind/body/spirit is necessary for harvestability from third density." -Ra

"Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen..." -Ra

That particular part of the material gets to me bc I have a friend that completely believes in the material that's trying to be so STS so as to get harvested and it just makes me sad. If they had never encountered the Ra material, they never would have hurt a fly.

"The Ra group calls it 'the sinkhole of indifference' when we're not polarizing. It's just a non-powerful position for souls. And once that choice is made, we become very powerful,..." -Crala

"Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises"

hey another seeker here, what you said about polarizing really matters to me. If I hadn't read the Ra Material I probably would just stay the same. Now I'm actively trying to change but to be honest I also think it's like Ra said. You can't force yourself to be something which you are not. I am angry, angry at the people and the world but at my core I can't change my spiritual bias which has developed over several lifetimes before this one. That would undo way too much progress I believe. I don't know exactly but it sure feels like it even if I really want to be negative really hard I keep bouncing back somehow. Who knows.... I'm sure though I've had enough of constant suffering. I don't know how STS does that all the time. Power might be tempting in 3D but like Jesus said, there is no rest for the wicked. 4D is hell. Also starting at the lower end of the hierarchy sounds like a really bad deal to me. Always fighting amongst each other for power. What power? Devouring other souls of energy who have a infinite connection to the creator? There's a reason STS is hell-bent on efficency. It's because they have a limited amount of power and it shows in the battles between good and evil for humans. Angels can simply hold off demons and there is literally nothing they can do. They linger around all day waiting for an opportunity to feed and jump at the first one. They are reactionary. The more you think in logic, the more you are predictable. How's that free will? If you become predictable there are no suprises. Nothing. You get closer and closer to being a thought-form. Which is why 4D negative tries to stave of getting into 5D for as long as possible. The Cassiopeans said that negative polarity ends at negative 4D and anything above it are simply thoughtforms following a "programmed behaviour". I tend to agree with that to be honest. There isn't anything suprising about these souls anymore. They lose more and more of their freewill until they eventually implode into basic matter and recycle or reverse polarities and accept unity. I know some think the higher you get in density the more free will you have but I think this only applies to positive. As biased as that sounds,...how much freewill does a rock have? This is what negatives are headed for. There is nothing more logical, predictable than a rock. They are the black holes that implode and spew out matter in form of Hawking radiation.
They are the moved wheras STO is the mover. He who wills evil will forever do good.

19.16 Questioner: Then, through free will, some time in the third-density experience, the path splits and an entity consciously— probably does not consciously choose. Does an entity consciously choose this path at the initial splitting point?

Ra: I am Ra. We speak in generalities which is dangerous for always inaccurate. However, we realize you look for the overview; so we will eliminate anomalies and speak of majorities.

The majority of third-density beings is far along the chosen path before realization of that path is conscious.

Anything above negative 4D is in my opinion just a thoughtform, not worth pursuing because I'd go as far as to say that the more they consume the less aware they become.


RE: Can beings, that are neither 50% STS, nor 50% STO ascend - flofrog - 03-08-2020

(03-08-2020, 04:42 AM)rinzler Wrote: hey another seeker here, what you said about polarizing really matters to me. If I hadn't read the Ra Material I probably would just stay the same. Now I'm actively trying to change but to be honest I also think it's like Ra said. You can't force yourself to be something which you are not. I am angry, angry at the people and the world but at my core I can't change my spiritual bias which has developed over several lifetimes before this one. That would undo way too much progress I believe. I don't know exactly but it sure feels like it even if I really want to be negative really hard I keep bouncing back somehow. Who knows.... I'm sure though I've had enough of constant suffering. I don't know how STS does that all the time. Power might be tempting in 3D but like Jesus said, there is no rest for the wicked. 4D is hell. Also starting at the lower end of the hierarchy sounds like a really bad deal to me. Always fighting amongst each other for power. What power? Devouring other souls of energy who have a infinite connection to the creator? There's a reason STS is hell-bent on efficency. It's because they have a limited amount of power and it shows in the battles between good and evil for humans. Angels can simply hold off demons and there is literally nothing they can do. They linger around all day waiting for an opportunity to feed and jump at the first one. They are reactionary. The more you think in logic, the more you are predictable. How's that free will? If you become predictable there are no suprises. Nothing. You get closer and closer to being a thought-form. Which is why 4D negative tries to stave of getting into 5D for as long as possible. The Cassiopeans said that negative polarity ends at negative 4D and anything above it are simply thoughtforms following a "programmed behaviour". I tend to agree with that to be honest. There isn't anything suprising about these souls anymore. They lose more and more of their freewill until they eventually implode into basic matter and recycle or reverse polarities and accept unity. I know some think the higher you get in density the more free will you have but I think this only applies to positive. As biased as that sounds,...how much freewill does a rock have? This is what negatives are headed for. There is nothing more logical, predictable than a rock. They are the black holes that implode and spew out matter in form of Hawking radiation.
They are the moved wheras STO is the mover. He who wills evil will forever do good.

19.16 Questioner: Then, through free will, some time in the third-density experience, the path splits and an entity consciously— probably does not consciously choose. Does an entity consciously choose this path at the initial splitting point?

Ra: I am Ra. We speak in generalities which is dangerous for always inaccurate. However, we realize you look for the overview; so we will eliminate anomalies and speak of majorities.

The majority of third-density beings is far along the chosen path before realization of that path is conscious.

Anything above negative 4D is in my opinion just a thoughtform, not worth pursuing because I'd go as far as to say that the more they consume the less aware they become.

rinsler, among all the lovely things you say, that I love, I do especially the one on rocks, I so feel too there is something of a black hole to rocks. Just massive energy compressed, somehow our brothers in solitude and creation...


RE: Can beings, that are neither 50% STS, nor 50% STO ascend - isis - 03-15-2020

(03-05-2020, 11:42 AM)kraken99 Wrote: EvolvingPhoenix, why so much words?

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RE: Can beings, that are neither 50% STS, nor 50% STO ascend - EvolvingPhoenix - 03-15-2020

I shoulda said "Why so much bullshit?"

Oh well. Opportunity's lost. **shrugs**


RE: Can beings, that are neither 50% STS, nor 50% STO ascend - Dtris - 03-22-2020

(03-02-2020, 05:01 AM)kraken99 Wrote:
(02-29-2020, 09:42 PM)kristina Wrote:
(02-27-2020, 10:09 AM)kraken99 Wrote: For soothing, appeasing, fully polarized positive entities:
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law – a man's enemies will be the members of his own household." (Matthew 10:34-36 NIV)

"Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it." (Matthew 10:38 NIV)

Can you guys, cram this teaching into your STO?

Sword=discernment, divine judgements, wisdom. Teaching those who want to hear will then learn to be their own guides.
As soon as you learn the Truth you turn from your traditional family, and you are now living among those who you thought were your enemies. The non-tradition. A natural thing to do once the Truth has been ascertained.

You lose your "little life" and are born into your "real life". Once one is part of the Christ Consciousness, a new life is born and the old has died.
I do not have a hard time cramming that into my STO philosophy. Thanks for giving me more to cram. Love and light.

And how about this quote (Matthew 15:22-26):
A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly." Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us." He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel." The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said. He replied, "It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs."

Hmm... to compare another nation to dogs...

You left out the next two verses where he heals her daughter because she has great faith.