(06-22-2019, 09:59 AM)Minyatur Wrote:

(06-19-2019, 03:57 AM)Ray711 Wrote: I think we can all agree that a completely pure STO entity would be of the mentality of complete open boarders for everyone (not just as related to country, but in regards to the entity's own house as well). There are a lot of implications for that here in 3rd density, and lots of arguments to make on both sides of the discussion as to the viability of this. However, I want to put this topic in relation to the notion that the two separate paths (STS and STO) in higher densities are just that; separate. The Confederation has gone on record saying that the two polarities "don't work well together". The implications of this in regard to the subject of immigration are big, if not downright hypocritical, because a basic motivation in the desire for strict immigration control (aside from downright xenophobic views) is the desire to keep potential individuals of an STS-like mentality away from that which one perceives as belonging to the self (of course, this viewpoint can be questioned on the grounds that one's own country also has STS individuals).

Still, Creation itself seems to be built on concepts of, shall we say, strict immigration control. The well of 4th density positive can't be poisoned with the negativity of those not sufficiently polarized STO, or so seems to be the idea.

Perhaps the important aspect of it is that polarity is relatively transient, and definitely mutable. Someone may not be "good enough" for 4th density positive at one particular point in time, but with enough time and work, anyone and everyone can potentially get there, if they so wish. This is in direct contrast with some far-right views of completely closing access into one's country to all people of any given race, nationality or religion.

On the topic of reaching absolute purity in STO, this following quote from Ra is relevant:

Quote:25.6 ▶ Questioner: Could you amplify the meaning of what you said by “failure to accept that which is given?”

Ra: I am Ra. At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.

This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.

It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.

This is worrisome to me, because it implies that simply being loving is not enough to deter negativity, which is precisely the very mindset of the many people here in 3d who scoff at the notion that unconditional love will save the world. Perhaps it's different because 3d is more of an illusion, and the stakes are higher in the battle described by Ra. I'm unsure as to what to think about this, but I think it'd be interesting to open that debate.

I think pure STO is like the Logos. It is all the things in all their colors selflessly. It is the small birds that sing and the hawks that prey on them, it is the humans that make peace and also the ones that murder another. It is in balance in accepting to allow what the Creator is to express, because that is the purpose of this world, to give space to what the Creator is to be expressed and what the Creator is is that which can be both positive and negative.

When STO is not pure, there are distortions which makes it not pure and part of the balancing process is to accept and express these distortions. What you describe as the confederation doing is exactly this, they have to act upon that they are not pure STO and work with their own distortions. In pure STO there is only pure acceptance, there is no notion of deterring negativity. I would even venture to say that from a time/space perspective, it is impossible even if you try and always creates an imbalance in which you have a lesson of acceptance. This lesson becomes a thematic until you learn to release the need of it. Your reality is always already the answer as it reflects what you are, that is why the lessons are always about acceptance. Any way you deal with another shows how you deal with your own self.

A bit like Infinite Unity said, there is a balance to Unity of which the Creator is the core of it. Amidst all events, there is always One seeing One. What differs an entity from another entity as two expressions of this One is only opportunity and opportunity is an infinite principle into which all things exist. You are truly Infinity.

Anyhow, the role of the 3D entity is not to be without distortions but to work with its distortions. Nothing will be overcome and mankind will distill itself.

(06-20-2019, 02:45 PM)Ray711 Wrote:

(06-20-2019, 02:07 PM)ScottK Wrote: And now we come full circle back to the paradox

Yup. That's why the path of purity is foolish. You might end up being of no consequence, indeed. You might also end up being Christ consciousness itself, and the greatest possible source of inspiration to the world.

It's a gamble. You decide whether to run with it or not.

(06-20-2019, 02:18 PM)kristina Wrote: Do you know how those of 4th density could violate the free will of a 3rd density entity? Explain that please. I would like to see in what direction you go to.

I believe you meant to quote me.

No idea. Abduction, perhaps? Getting into too specific and transient material?

(06-20-2019, 02:18 PM)kristina Wrote: I would like to point out that the Earth has a quaratine.

Good point. I often wonder whether souls have the freedom to choose other planets to incarnate into. TLOO never explicitly clears this up, but I believe it heavily implies that souls are usually tied to their planet of origin, unless they become wanderers or any such special circumstances.

(06-23-2019, 12:39 PM)kristina Wrote: That's not the reason for the quarantine

(06-23-2019, 12:58 PM)Ray711 Wrote:

(06-23-2019, 12:39 PM)kristina Wrote: That's not the reason for the quarantine

I know, I know. TLOO just gave me the overall impression that entities can't just choose to incarnate into any planet they wish anytime they want. A lot of emphasis is put on placing souls on those planets of vibration most compatible with the entity's, upon harvest, thus implying the existence of a placement system. The mere existence of harvest entails that souls can't just reach harvestability level and leave on their own (save for those who open the gateway to intelligent infinity, which is extremely rare).

(06-24-2019, 07:13 AM)kristina Wrote: I would like to ask, considering the free will distortion of the Law of One, how can the Guardians quarantine the Earth? Is this quarantine within the free will distortion?

Quote:the mind/body/spirit complexes of this dimension you call third form a dimension of free will which is not able to, shall we say, recognize in full, the distortions towards manipulation

(06-19-2019, 03:57 AM)Ray711 Wrote: I think we can all agree that a completely pure STO entity would be of the mentality of complete open boarders for everyone (not just as related to country, but in regards to the entity's own house as well).

(06-24-2019, 09:22 AM)loostudent Wrote: I'm not so sure about that. A STO entity would respect privacy and free will.

(06-24-2019, 09:37 AM)Ray711 Wrote:

(06-24-2019, 09:22 AM)loostudent Wrote: I'm not so sure about that. A STO entity would respect privacy and free will.

I think we will find that we 3rd density dwellers are the only entities in Creation that care about a privacy that we don't even have, lol. What with telepathy being the default mode of communication in other dimensions and all.