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RE: Is Unity Possible? - AnthroHeart - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 04:25 AM)Wai Wrote:(06-28-2014, 11:28 AM)Patrick Wrote:(06-27-2014, 01:00 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Is Unity possible in 3D?...
In 3d ? I do not think so, no.
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IMHO, achieving true Unity would dispel the 3d illusion.
Agree.
Seconded. While it might not be unity I was seeking, but that unconditional love of Creator I once felt. Truly it humbled me. I wonder what seeing through the illusion would be like.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - anagogy - 07-01-2014
If that is true, then why would Ra say something to the effect of, "if any entity is able to dwell completely in unity the only harm that may occur to it is the changing of the outward physical, yellow-ray vehicle into the more light-filled mind/body/spirit complex’s vehicle by the process of death. All other suffering and pain is as nothing to one such as this.
We may note that this perfect configuration of the mind, body, and spirit complexes, while within the third-density vehicle, is extraordinarily rare."
It is a rare state of consciousness in our density, but it is possible.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - Patrick - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 08:20 PM)anagogy Wrote: If that is true, then why would Ra say something to the effect of, "if any entity is able to dwell completely in unity the only harm that may occur to it is the changing of the outward physical, yellow-ray vehicle into the more light-filled mind/body/spirit complex’s vehicle by the process of death. All other suffering and pain is as nothing to one such as this.
We may note that this perfect configuration of the mind, body, and spirit complexes, while within the third-density vehicle, is extraordinarily rare."
It is a rare state of consciousness in our density, but it is possible.
Yeah I see what you mean.
It's not the first time this week, that I took something from the material that basically says "extraordinarily rare" to mean that it's impossible. I guess it comes down to the same thing to me.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - AnthroHeart - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 08:26 PM)Patrick Wrote:(07-01-2014, 08:20 PM)anagogy Wrote: If that is true, then why would Ra say something to the effect of, "if any entity is able to dwell completely in unity the only harm that may occur to it is the changing of the outward physical, yellow-ray vehicle into the more light-filled mind/body/spirit complex’s vehicle by the process of death. All other suffering and pain is as nothing to one such as this.
We may note that this perfect configuration of the mind, body, and spirit complexes, while within the third-density vehicle, is extraordinarily rare."
It is a rare state of consciousness in our density, but it is possible.
I did not mean to say that you would disappear. Just that the illusion would disappear for you. You would see things as they really are. So the 3d illusion would not work for catalysts any longer for you, but would probably not be needed any more anyway if you reached that state.
I take it that one does not try to reach that state. It just comes naturally. If one can accept all catalyst. Something I'm working on. I want to move to the next phase of my spiritual progress.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - Plenum - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 08:20 PM)anagogy Wrote: If that is true, then why would Ra say something to the effect of, "if any entity is able to dwell completely in unity the only harm that may occur to it is the changing of the outward physical, yellow-ray vehicle into the more light-filled mind/body/spirit complex’s vehicle by the process of death. All other suffering and pain is as nothing to one such as this.
We may note that this perfect configuration of the mind, body, and spirit complexes, while within the third-density vehicle, is extraordinarily rare."
It is a rare state of consciousness in our density, but it is possible.
that's a good quote anagogy. But much like other spiritual pursuits (the seeking of nirvana, the seeking of the activation of higher bodies, the seeking of siddhi's), something of it smacks of avoidance, at some level. I'm not saying that these things are invalid, or impossible to attain, indeed they are, but as so often as I've found in personal experience and from the stories of others, these things tend to land in your lap as a consequence of other work; which is done for it's own sake.
it's the classic adage of: tend to the tree, and the fruit will grow on it's own. Here the 'fruit' are the spiritual abilities, the attainment of a stable, balanced consciousness, and even experiencing a unity-level consciousness, where there is no longer any conflicting thoughts; all is seen to be part of the one weave.
the work, at the end of the day, is most simple:
Ra Wrote:49.6 ... the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual.
the experiences are already being attracted to oneself automatically.
everything we need to keep growing is already being given to us through the process of living and breathing.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - anagogy - 07-01-2014
(07-01-2014, 08:29 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I take it that one does not try to reach that state. It just comes naturally. If one can accept all catalyst. Something I'm working on. I want to move to the next phase of my spiritual progress.
I can't decide if I agree or disagree. I think we are all "trying" for that state, whether we realize it or not. But, in the same vein, I agree with you that it is about the perfect utilization of catalyst, to the point where there is no static or "resistance".
(07-01-2014, 09:39 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: that's a good quote anagogy. But much like other spiritual pursuits (the seeking of nirvana, the seeking of the activation of higher bodies, the seeking of siddhi's), something of it smacks of avoidance, at some level. I'm not saying that these things are invalid, or impossible to attain, indeed they are, but as so often as I've found in personal experience and from the stories of others, these things tend to land in your lap as a consequence of other work; which is done for it's own sake.
it's the classic adage of: tend to the tree, and the fruit will grow on it's own. Here the 'fruit' are the spiritual abilities, the attainment of a stable, balanced consciousness, and even experiencing a unity-level consciousness, where there is no longer any conflicting thoughts; all is seen to be part of the one weave.
the work, at the end of the day, is most simple:
Ra Wrote:49.6 ... the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual.
the experiences are already being attracted to oneself automatically.
everything we need to keep growing is already being given to us through the process of living and breathing.
I agree with you for the most part Plenum.
But in regards to it smacking of avoidance, I think in some cases you may be right, and even Ra has said, "It has been our experience that some penetrate several planes at one time. Others penetrate them slowly. Some in eagerness attempt to penetrate the higher planes before penetrating the energies of the so-called lower or more fundamental planes. This causes energy imbalance.
You will find ill health, as you call this distortion, to frequently be the result of a subtle mismatch of energies in which some of the higher energy levels are being activated by the conscious attempts of the entity while the entity has not penetrated the lower energy centers or sub-densities of this density."
But, I also tend to think a "perfect configuration of the mind/body/spirit" could not be realized through avoidance in the first place, in fact, I would say it could only be realized through the exact opposite, as Gemini Wolf said, through absolute acceptance, or perfect utilization of catalyst, such that the seemingly separate "part" that is the mind/body/spirit blends so harmoniously with the rest of creation that the distinction between them is truly seen as non-apparent.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - Infinite Unity - 04-26-2017
True unity I would agree with no. However as Anagogy stated I do believe the representation of unity within 3d can be achieved. Or as he specifically said The Violet lens in 3d.
Everything is as exactly as it seems, and everything is not how it seems at all
RE: Is Unity Possible? - Infinite - 04-26-2017
Is possible without the veil. This is, in another state of consciousness.
Peace, love and light.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - BlatzAdict - 04-27-2017
(06-27-2014, 01:52 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I've accepted that I am perfect as I am.
In others I see that they are not me. I can't get my mind/experience around the fact that they are me too.
I accept that I am not enlightened too.
But I cannot accept everything life throws at me.
I am wary of much catalyst. I wish it were softer.
they like you are sparks of the infinite creator. as a result.. do they not also cry the same tears, or laugh or experience shame or anger? Love through the same heart chakra?
not everyone has the same interests for sure, and that does not make them any less, or more than you. i think the lesson there is not to judge from afar, to learn to open your heart more by going to these people and asking them first hand what they feel and believe, instead of placing automatic judgement.
RE: Is Unity Possible? - loostudent - 04-30-2017
Unity is - if we realise it or not. The veil was set for "the potential for polarization be made more available". I can't understand why people in the unveiled stage didn't feel such need to change/progress - to learn the ways of love in 3. d. If you know and feel loved so much how can you not pass it on? I guess love needs much freedom of will. We have to undergo this veil of unity to freely seek it, to make a choice with all heart. Without cover the passion of dis-covering cannot come out. Brother, keep in mind many examples that have shown realization of unity is possible.
A quote from a movie (The Answer Man):
Quote:Kris Lucas: If God made everything, then why are some things bad? Like the whole pain and suffering thing...
Arlen Faber: Opposites. Without things that suck, you would have no idea what good was, and therefore be directionless. You smell s***, you walk the other way.