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RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 07-11-2014
(07-09-2014, 07:22 AM)Phoenix Wrote: Things were going OK a short while ago and then I masturbated and got into a seriously paranoid state. This is obviously partly to do with my own triggers. But for me my efforts in the future are going to be towards the cessation of this activity. All porn related matters as well.
I have not yet had a period where I was ill with a cold or something and been able to refrain. Since it stops you from sleeping and you are lying around in bed all the time anyway.
Strange, I've never been paranoid from masturbation. But I did once try to stop it and got blue balls. That hurt, and it prevented me from orgasming for months after. It made it hurt to orgasm for some time.
I think 3 months is the longest I've gone without. Or maybe it was 6 months. When I was at my fathers with a mental illness, I never masturbated during that time.
RE: Masturbation - Horuseus - 07-11-2014
(07-11-2014, 07:39 PM)BrownEye Wrote: It makes me wonder just where this energy is going.
Alot of practitioners state the sexual energy is apparently quite potent for manifestation, so perhaps there's a connection there? I'm thinking It may be 'taken' to be utilised for your benefit on some other level with your permission prior.
From what I understand It is also advised refraining from thinking about certain individuals when orgasming to prevent non-beneficial cords being formed. On the other hand it's useful to think about desired outcomes at the time.
Quote:I have only glanced, and from what I can tell Mantak is an awesome source of info about the energy bodies. I grabbed all of the books, but have not gotten around to reading.
If you look around you will find a manual method of stopping ejaculation (no not painful), and it does have some effect on the body if you can consciously maneuver that recovery to certain areas.
Just checked out a video on a whim. This guy is awesome Lol:
Edit: Shhh ;-)
RE: Masturbation - piceanjoy - 07-12-2014
Carla touches on the subject of sexual activity and the impact it has on the second Ray a bit in her most recent book. From what I gather between the Law of One teachings, and others I have received over the years, is that making love to one's self or another can be very beneficial both holistically and spiritually, as long as it is done with love and compassion and the respect of all involved. In other words, if I feel I must watch someone being dominated, or be dominated in order to get off, or think of acts which demean myself or others, that is not what I perceive can beneficial from a service to others perspective. I would also consider a sexual addiction (where my sexual activity adversely affected my life in some way), to also be a detriment.
Other wise, party on Garth!
RE: Masturbation - Phoenix - 07-12-2014
I have to I say that even though I have been experiencing unbelievable tension recently. Today I have started to calm down and experience less tension and I attribute this to the grounding effect of having kept my energies to myself.
The neuroticism I experienced in relation to masturbation was that I started masturbating and assumed that what I was experiencing was psychic information because I have felt like I have received someone's energies before. I then acted on this 'information'. Also, there is a profound ungrounding effect I experience when I do that. Which is very difficult to counter and includes a lot of messed up thoughts.
RE: Masturbation - Rake - 07-14-2014
I've become very aware over the last two weeks that masturbation is a way of releasing energy that I don't really know what to do with. Hourseus' video is rather interesting as I have had some orgasm's whilst not masturbating which really highlight the difference between ejaculation and orgasms.
The energy I felt during these orgasms is the same I have experienced whilst meditating. Remember kids stay safe and keep a smokey quartz in the bedside table for grounding those energies
RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 07-14-2014
I don't know why I have such a dry spell. Perhaps I haven't been bored enough.
The energy from it used to make my legs weak.
RE: Masturbation - Horuseus - 07-14-2014
(07-14-2014, 12:53 PM)Rake Wrote: I've become very aware over the last two weeks that masturbation is a way of releasing energy that I don't really know what to do with. Hourseus' video is rather interesting as I have had some orgasm's whilst not masturbating which really highlight the difference between ejaculation and orgasms.
I was slightly concerned when he mentioned the act of ejaculation decreased the 'life force'/'vital energy' a little each time.
By all accounts it would mean half the male population should be dead by now
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RE: Masturbation - Jeremy - 07-14-2014
(07-14-2014, 07:24 PM)Horuseus Wrote:(07-14-2014, 12:53 PM)Rake Wrote: I've become very aware over the last two weeks that masturbation is a way of releasing energy that I don't really know what to do with. Hourseus' video is rather interesting as I have had some orgasm's whilst not masturbating which really highlight the difference between ejaculation and orgasms.
I was slightly concerned when he mentioned the act of ejaculation decreased the 'life force'/'vital energy' a little each time.
By all accounts it would mean half the male population should be dead by now
Seriously lol.
Question for those that have been abstaining from such umm hobbies, does the urge subside eventually or do you find some sort of balance/lesson in it? I'm trying to understand my never ending post pubescent hormones that I've had ever since I discovered them lol. I remember some mentioning that it's an imbalance at the red ray level but what exactly is the imbalance? Why would an overactive sex drive equal an imbalance?
RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 07-14-2014
My meds affect the urge. Sometimes I have to force it if I want to go.
I'm not sure how balance plays a part. I don't feel unbalanced in regards to that.
It's certainly not an addiction on my part.
I think an overactive sex drive is an overactive chakra. When you have it you're probably like this.
Excess Libido can also cause this:
RE: Masturbation - Jeremy - 07-14-2014
It isn't that bad where I'm physically doing that but I'm damn sure thinking it LOL
I think part of the issue is that I always had a girlfriend/wife since I was 16 so once my ex and I split and sex wasn't a regular thing, my drive went through the roof.
RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 07-15-2014
The only way I can get off is through fantasies of fetishes that I wouldn't do irl. Though I don't have a sex partner, so I can't say how well that would work.
RE: Masturbation - ascension scout - 07-18-2014
(06-22-2014, 04:00 PM)Marc Wrote: I also feel generally more relaxed in life when I consistently masturbate.
As a lady, I find this to be true for you guys. It is interested that some of you have found ways to orgasm without ejaculating, how long did it take to master that?
I fear that the subject matter of my fantasy to get me in the mood is negative and creates thought forms that confuse my spiritual desires. I think it is true that it is easier for women to abstain than men. I imagine that the same energy depletion rules apply.....I would appreciate another female perspective on this topic.
RE: Masturbation - isis - 07-18-2014
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RE: Masturbation - Ankh - 07-19-2014
(07-14-2014, 12:53 PM)Rake Wrote: I've become very aware over the last two weeks that masturbation is a way of releasing energy that I don't really know what to do with.
Why don't you release it into the planetary sphere by thanksgiving and praising the One?
"The adepts then become living channels for love and light and are able to channel this radiance directly into the planetary web of energy nexi. The ritual will always end by the grounding of this energy in praise and thanksgiving and the release of this energy into the planetary whole."
I mean, if you consciously aware that it is an energy release (which I also think), try then to consciously release this energy into the planetary energy web? I think that if more would do it, the more it would aid this Harvest, cause this planet already vibrates with true color green ray, and it is only we who retard this process. But in this atmoshpere, thoughts become things, and if one accepts itself and urges of the self, one can release this energy of this activity in a positive way, aiding this planet and its Harvest, imho...?
"It is this influence which has begun to cause thoughts to become things."
(07-14-2014, 07:46 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Why would an overactive sex drive equal an imbalance?
In my understanding, an overactive sex drive is rather a blockage in the orange and yellow rays than the red ray, but it could be combined of course.
"The usual nature of sexual interaction, if one is yellow or orange in primary vibratory patterns, is one of blockage and then insatiable hunger due to the blockage."
(07-18-2014, 10:13 AM)ascension scout Wrote: I fear that the subject matter of my fantasy to get me in the mood is negative and creates thought forms that confuse my spiritual desires. I think it is true that it is easier for women to abstain than men. I imagine that the same energy depletion rules apply.....I would appreciate another female perspective on this topic.
What would you exactly want to know? I am female.
My opinion about this matter is that fantasies are only negative if they are not illuminated by the conscious light, but suppressed or repressed. You are not hurting anyone if you are acting out these fantasies in your mind, playing with yourself.
"The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will."
When doing it, I would advice to apply conscious understanding of your thoughts and fantasies. What are you seeking? Why? Where do you find pleasure? Etc. My opinion that instead of abstaining from this activity, rejecting it or supressing it, it is much better to act it out seeking an understanding of the self. My experience is also that once the understanding is reached, this seemingly negative fantasy loses its "power" and falls away.
"The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away."
RE: Masturbation - Jeremy - 07-19-2014
(07-18-2014, 01:37 PM)isis Wrote: edit: removed; sry if u missed it! decided it was tmi
Hahaha I was thinking WOW! when I read it
RE: Masturbation - isis - 07-19-2014
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RE: Masturbation - BlatzAdict - 07-19-2014
The sts prohibits and curtails sexuality in its most primal. Nudity is obscene while killing is openly reported. The sto says to do it and learn from it. Sometimes we have phases where we do less or more. Finding the right balance of flow is hard when we start to think about the reasons why depending on the difficulty of catalyst presented.
I say do it and its healthy to and to know thyself in mind in spirit and body.
RE: Masturbation - xise - 07-19-2014
(07-18-2014, 01:37 PM)isis Wrote: edit: removed; sry if u missed it! decided it was tmi
Open-hearted sharing, that's what blue-ray is about, right??
RE: Masturbation - ascension scout - 07-21-2014
(07-19-2014, 02:26 AM)Ankh Wrote: What would you exactly want to know? I am female.I worry that masturbation has inhibited my ability to orgasm during sex. I discovered masturbation at an early age, it has always been something private and I appreciate this opportunity to discuss it in a spiritual context. I have been keeping a dream journal for the last year and lately I have been masturbating in my dreams....? It has been an amped-up theme within my subconscious so I am wondering what it means.
(07-19-2014, 02:26 AM)Ankh Wrote: My opinion about this matter is that fantasies are only negative if they are not illuminated by the conscious light, but suppressed or repressed. You are not hurting anyone if you are acting out these fantasies in your mind, playing with yourself.
When doing it, I would advice to apply conscious understanding of your thoughts and fantasies. What are you seeking? Why? Where do you find pleasure? Etc. My opinion that instead of abstaining from this activity, rejecting it or supressing it, it is much better to act it out seeking an understanding of the self. My experience is also that once the understanding is reached, this seemingly negative fantasy loses its "power" and falls away.
You're right about not suppressing desires, your quotes are apt. I suppose I have some 'research' to do! About a year ago a psychic told me I had some sexual issues that I needed to address, things I wasn't talking about. I think it is just embarrassment about my fantasies, fear of judgement.
RE: Masturbation - BrownEye - 07-22-2014
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RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 07-22-2014
Yeah, Jesus would find our thoughts/fantasies pretty gross. Not just the masturbating.
RE: Masturbation - xise - 07-22-2014
(07-22-2014, 06:09 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Yeah, Jesus would find our thoughts/fantasies pretty gross. Not just the masturbating.
I don't think he would.
RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 07-22-2014
(07-22-2014, 06:46 PM)xise Wrote:(07-22-2014, 06:09 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Yeah, Jesus would find our thoughts/fantasies pretty gross. Not just the masturbating.
I don't think he would.
Good to know. But I don't live my life by what Jesus thinks. Or what I think he thinks.
RE: Masturbation - Jeremy - 07-22-2014
So why make the comment regarding what he may think then?
RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 07-22-2014
(07-22-2014, 09:03 PM)Jeremy Wrote: So why make the comment regarding what he may think then?
I didn't realize it until I responded.
RE: Masturbation - Phoenix - 07-23-2014
After having stopped at since just before my first post here on the subject. I am getting strongly positive effects.
RE: Masturbation - Jeremy - 07-23-2014
I finally succumbed lol. I also actually had sex which reignited the desire. Getting back into the swing of things for the passed few days yet things are becoming very interesting even with this break in protocol so to speak lol. Not quite sure what is happening but I'm diggin it
RE: Masturbation - Phoenix - 07-23-2014
Before when I stopped I felt like pieces of my soul were coming back.
At the moment though I am generally out of balance. I have noticed my desires seem to be blocked when I am out of balance.
RE: Masturbation - AnthroHeart - 08-03-2014
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RE: Masturbation - isis - 08-03-2014
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