(03-04-2013, 12:54 AM)kdsii Wrote:

(03-02-2013, 10:53 PM)Guardian Wrote: It's quite clear from the Ra channelings that the council watches over Earth and makes sure we are protected from complete annihilation. It follows then that is there were a massive danger to Earth, there would be "inexplicable" phenomenon that protect us.

No, in fact, Ra says that souls get help if they are nuked, but even in this scenario we have free will - i.e., we're on our own.
Civilizations have done this over and over - blown themselves up before they finished 3D. Mars is a prime example. If we blow ourselves up, we face 100% of this.
The council does just that - it provides counsel and guidance. It isn't the idiot brigade

(03-04-2013, 01:19 AM)Parsons Wrote: I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't find the quote to be sure of what it said. I just remember initially thinking what Guardian said then examining the quote more closely and realized that our world and its inhabitants are NOT protected from blowing ourselves up but our souls ARE protected from getting somehow damaged by a nuclear blast.

(03-04-2013, 01:19 AM)Parsons Wrote:

(03-04-2013, 12:54 AM)kdsii Wrote:

(03-02-2013, 10:53 PM)Guardian Wrote: It's quite clear from the Ra channelings that the council watches over Earth and makes sure we are protected from complete annihilation. It follows then that is there were a massive danger to Earth, there would be "inexplicable" phenomenon that protect us.

No, in fact, Ra says that souls get help if they are nuked, but even in this scenario we have free will - i.e., we're on our own.
Civilizations have done this over and over - blown themselves up before they finished 3D. Mars is a prime example. If we blow ourselves up, we face 100% of this.
The council does just that - it provides counsel and guidance. It isn't the idiot brigade

I was thinking the same thing but I couldn't find the quote to be sure of what it said. I just remember initially thinking what Guardian said then examining the quote more closely and realized that our world and its inhabitants are NOT protected from blowing ourselves up but our souls ARE protected from getting somehow damaged by a nuclear blast.

Ra, 26:23 Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. This we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic Infinite One.

(03-05-2013, 08:05 AM)Parsons Wrote: Yep, that's it Ankh. I couldn't find that quote for the life of me.

(03-06-2013, 02:15 AM)kdsii Wrote:

(03-05-2013, 08:05 AM)Parsons Wrote: Yep, that's it Ankh. I couldn't find that quote for the life of me.

On a related note, I read today (The Convoluted Universe, Book III), that Mars' atmosphere blew off due to a nearby planet (Maldek?)'s destruction, caused by the inhabitants there. They were trying to develop something and blew themselves up. This, in turn, harshly affected Mars' atmosphere.

You never know, might be true, might not be. I don't know how accurate information from past life regression is, but I've always wondered the details of what happened to Mars...

Quote:9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?

Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

(03-06-2013, 02:15 AM)kdsii Wrote: On a related note, I read today (The Convoluted Universe, Book III), that Mars' atmosphere blew off due to a nearby planet (Maldek?)'s destruction, caused by the inhabitants there. They were trying to develop something and blew themselves up. This, in turn, harshly affected Mars' atmosphere.

You never know, might be true, might not be. I don't know how accurate information from past life regression is, but I've always wondered the details of what happened to Mars...

Ra, 10:1 Wrote:The peoples of Maldek had a civilization somewhat similar to that of the societal complex known to you as Atlantis in that it gained much technological information and used it without care for the preservation of their sphere following to a majority extent the complex of thought, ideas, and actions which you may associate with your so-called negative polarity or the service to self. This was, however, for the most part, couched in a sincere belief/thought structure which seemed to the perception of the mind/body complexes of this sphere to be positive and of service to others. The devastation that wracked their biosphere and caused its disintegration resulted from what you call war.

The escalation went to the furthest extent of the technology this social complex had at its disposal in the space/time present of the then time. This time was approximately seven oh five, oh oh oh, seven hundred and five thousand [705,000] of your years ago. The cycles had begun much, much earlier upon this sphere due to its relative ability to support the first-dimensional life forms at an earlier point in the space/time continuum of your solar system. These entities were so traumatized by this occurrence that they were in what you may call a social complex knot or tangle of fear. Some of your time passed. No one could reach them. No beings could aid them.

Ra Wrote:9.10 Questioner: Were the entities of the Red Planet following the Law of One prior to leaving the Red Planet?

Ra: The entities of the Red Planet were attempting to learn the Laws of Love which form one of the primal distortions of the Law of One. However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. Thus, the Red Planet entities were unharvested and continued in your illusion to attempt to learn the Law of Love.

9.11 Questioner: How long ago did this transfer occur from the Red Planet to Earth?

Ra: I am Ra. In your time this transfer occurred approximately seven five zero zero zero [75,000] years ago.

9.12 Questioner: 75,000 years ago?

Ra: I am Ra. This is approximately correct.

(03-06-2013, 04:31 PM)Parsons Wrote: @Ankh, are you trying to say the timing is off? If that's the case, one could argue a chunk of Maldek could have orbited the solar system several times(thousands of years) before passing too close to Mars.

Ra, 9:10 Wrote:However, the tendencies of these people towards bellicose actions caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle.

(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)Ankh Wrote: So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

(03-07-2013, 04:25 AM)Wander-Man Wrote: We have open minds and feel a sense of security.

(03-08-2013, 02:00 AM)Wander-Man Wrote: What are you saying?

(03-06-2013, 08:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)Ankh Wrote: So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

(03-08-2013, 01:07 PM)Ankh Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 08:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)Ankh Wrote: So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

(03-08-2013, 10:32 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-08-2013, 01:07 PM)Ankh Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 08:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)Ankh Wrote: So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

Yes, I remember starting a thread on the subject. There was someone wondering why we hadn't found evidence of such a Martian civilization. Well, I read here that all traces of a city, such as NYC, would be gone on earth in only 25,000 years without man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath:_Population_Zero
There's also this: http://speculativeevolution.wikia.com/wiki/Life_After_People

Interestingly, Maldek had no such bellicose actions and were sincerely acting according to service to other intentions. Yet they managed to literally explode their planet.

(03-09-2013, 02:19 AM)Ankh Wrote:

(03-08-2013, 10:32 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-08-2013, 01:07 PM)Ankh Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 08:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)Ankh Wrote: So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

Yes, I remember starting a thread on the subject. There was someone wondering why we hadn't found evidence of such a Martian civilization. Well, I read here that all traces of a city, such as NYC, would be gone on earth in only 25,000 years without man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath:_Population_Zero
There's also this: http://speculativeevolution.wikia.com/wiki/Life_After_People

Interestingly, Maldek had no such bellicose actions and were sincerely acting according to service to other intentions. Yet they managed to literally explode their planet.

What does this have to do with what I said?

(03-08-2013, 01:07 PM)Ankh Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 08:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)Ankh Wrote: So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

I would also think that the sun would protect a planet from any random stuff that would hit a planet and destroy the environment for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle, but that's just a theory, or logical thought. It might be wrong.

(03-10-2013, 03:20 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote:

(03-08-2013, 01:07 PM)Ankh Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 08:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(03-06-2013, 04:45 PM)Ankh Wrote: So it seems to me that the reason to why their planetary sphere got inhospitable is due to their bellicose actions, and not because something hit their planet, if one is to go with Ra...?

Not if you believe that their intention attracted something to the planet. Magic works wonders.

Also, how could one possibly assume that any mention of a 3D-civilization-made atmospheric catastrophe on Mars, after the info from L/L Research, would not have been seeded from the same notion.

Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

I would also think that the sun would protect a planet from any random stuff that would hit a planet and destroy the environment for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle, but that's just a theory, or logical thought. It might be wrong.

Don't you think it would be the higher density entities protecting earth from cosmic disasters? :p (like Ra? )

(03-10-2013, 03:20 PM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote:

(03-08-2013, 01:07 PM)Ankh Wrote: Ra said that the tendencies of these people towards bellicose *actions*, not thinking, caused such difficulties in the atmospheric environment of their planet that it became inhospitable for third-density experience before the end of its cycle. This makes me to think that they did something bellicose which then made their environment inhospitable.

I would also think that the sun would protect a planet from any random stuff that would hit a planet and destroy the environment for 3D entities, before the end of its 3D cycle, but that's just a theory, or logical thought. It might be wrong.

Don't you think it would be the higher density entities protecting earth from cosmic disasters? :p (like Ra? )