(12-05-2012, 10:42 AM)Phoenix Wrote: (HA HA HA, I ACTUALLY CHANGED MY VIEW WITHIN THIS POST)

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Quote:Questioner: Thank you. In closing that part of the discussion I would just say that if there is anything that we can do that is within our ability—and I understand that there are many things such as the ones that you just mentioned that are not within our ability—that we could do for this particular entity, if you would in the future communicate its requests to us we will at least consider them because we would like to serve in every respect. Is this agreeable to you?

Ra: I am Ra. We perceive that we have not been able to clarify your service versus its desire for service. You need, in our humble opinion, to look at the humor of the situation and relinquish your desire to serve where no service is requested. The magnet will attract or repel. Glory in the strength of your polarization and allow others of opposite polarity to similarly do so, seeing the great humor of this polarity and its complications in view of the unification in sixth density of these two paths.

The entity mentioned is the negative 5D one.

Actually, here Don seems to be suggesting what I am, and then Ra advises him otherwise, maybe it's not such a good idea. Perhaps sending love to bad things is not respecting your natural self: 'The magnet will attract or repel.'

(12-10-2012, 01:53 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: You said...

Ankh Wrote:My belief is that sending love always works out well,

Always... but with the forthcoming conditions:

Ankh Wrote:if this sending is seated in the green ray or above and

IF #1

Ankh Wrote:if there is no attachment to the outcome.

IF #2

I was agreeing but saying those (#1 and #2) are some big IFs, given the general population. Precisely because we are 3D beings. We all have yellow and orange ray distortions to contend with... and let's be honest with ourselves...

Tenet Nosce Wrote:is there really no attachment to the outcome? For most people, I would say no. There is probably some attachment.

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Ankh Wrote:I think that most of the times the love offered, or the "green bombs" as you have called them, might perhaps not be pure green ray, but is of mixed orientation of orange and yellow rays as well. But people need to learn these ways of love in their own way, in their own pace, somehow, no?

In order to answer this question, I think we would need to look very deeply at our inner motives. And these may not be clear due to the very distortions you mention. That's precisely the problem with yellow/orange ray distortions: In order to balance them we must bring in the blue/indigo which means being willing to bear witness to ourselves in our totality- which includes the shadow aspect of ourselves. It also means acknowledging our own hidden motives, and sometimes even being "brutally" honest with ourselves.

48.7 Wrote:There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self.

Tenet Nosce Wrote:People try to control each other with love all the time "for their own good." An overbearing mother or spouse probably does not see themselves in a negative light... but the controlled spouse/child probably feels differently.

Often times, when the spouse/child thus controlled attempts to approach the controlling party, offense is taken, i.e., "How DARE you suggest that I have anything less than the purest of loving intentions toward you!"

Tenet Nosce Wrote:Obviously, "taking offense" is actually defensiveness projected outward. But good luck explaining that to the offended party in such a scenario...

Truth is, that the offended party has perceived that their "love is rejected." Of course, this isn't the case. What is the case is that the controlling energy that has become attached to the love has been rejected. But since "truth is subjective" the controller may continue to choose to perceive that their love has been rejected by their beloved.

Eventually, if the controlling behavior continues, the controlled spouse/child will likely decide that they must needs reject the love as well. But this is because the controlling-self has refused to accept the reality of their offering.

Ra, 41:14 Wrote:In third density, at this time, those clinging to orange ray have a much more complex system of distortions through which orange ray is manifested. This is somewhat complicated. We shall endeavor to simplify.

The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray. This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self. Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.

However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.

Tenet Nosce Wrote:They see only the green-ray component, and deny that the yellow/orange influences are present.

Tenet Nosce Wrote:This is the stuff of "everyday life" that the average human has to contend with on a daily basis. My question: Is this a distortion that we wish to carry with us into fourth density? Or would we prefer to leave it behind?

Tenet Nosce Wrote:Nevertheless, attempting to control others with love is an infringement on free will. Though likely, an infringement of the most innocuous variety where karmic considerations are concerned. But this is due to the nature of the established relationships in one's life.

For example, if we are two family members attempting to control each other with love... well we probably already have karmic ties and that is why we have this kind of relationship. But to extend outside of those relationships and try to control strangers "for their own good" that might carry more weight where karma is concerned.

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Ankh Wrote:But I don't know what's "best" for Gaia...? She has indeed not requested love or healing, so even though Q'uo is encouraging us to send her love and light, is it infringement? What is your opinion about that?

Again, Gaia is the planetary entity. Part of her role is to accept whatever energies we feel to be in abundance (negative or positive) and to either neutralize them, or redirect them to the appropriate nexus. Gaia is like the system administrator par excellence of the global distribution network for love. We cannot overload her with love. And each of us has an intimate relationship with her, whether we acknowledge it or not.

Quote:Questioner: If an entity wants to be of service to others rather than service to self while he is in this third density, are there “best ways” of being of service to others, or is any way just as good as any other way?

Ra: I am Ra. The best way to be of service to others has been explicitly covered in previous material. We will iterate briefly.

The best way of service to others is the constant attempt to seek to share the love of the Creator as it is known to the inner self. This involves self knowledge and the ability to open the self to the other-self without hesitation. This involves, shall we say, radiating that which is the essence or the heart of the mind/body/spirit complex.

Speaking to the intention of your question, the best way for each seeker in third density to be of service to others is unique to that mind/body/spirit complex. This means that the mind/body/spirit complex must then seek within itself the intelligence of its own discernment as to the way it may best serve other-selves. This will be different for each. There is no best. There is no generalization. Nothing is known.

(12-10-2012, 03:45 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: In other threads, you suggested that following the immanent "quantum leap" that we will be experiencing "a sharp increase in the short run of negatively oriented or polarized mind/body/spirit complexes and social complexes (17.1)"

If you are correct, then what might be the unforeseen consequences of people starting to organize in groups in order to consciously direct love energy at these negatively oriented complexes during the early days of full 4D instreaming?

(12-10-2012, 03:45 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Does that sound like a good idea to you?

(12-10-2012, 03:45 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Would you personally participate in this sort of group mind activity?

(12-14-2012, 06:45 PM)Phoenix Wrote: I have decided that the more important thing is to focus on the Creator, and that the negative polarity is sort of secondary to that.

Ra, 102:2 Wrote:We may note that the instrument has remained centered upon the Creator at a percentage exceeding ninety. This is the key. Continue in thanksgiving and gratitude for all things.

(12-14-2012, 11:38 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I asked Jim this question...hear tonight's radio show if you're interested in his opinion regarding this topic.

(12-15-2012, 02:18 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: I started this side-discussion by asking: Why not simply radiate love out in all directions, without attachments to a specific entities, in particular named negative entities?

This question still stands. And after all the debate I haven't seen anybody actually offer a good reason why we should send love energy to named negative entities, rather than radiating out in all directions without condition.

So at this point, unless somebody would like to come forward with reasoning as to why we would choose to place conditions and restrictions on our love, rather than offering it freely and without attachment, I will consider this discussion closed for my part. I have said what I had to say- anything more would just be repeating myself and going around in circles.

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Quote:5. Sending love to any specific entity constitutes an unspoken affirmation that said entity is more in need or more deserving of love than any particular other entity.

Disagree once again on practice terms. Given that we're all one, I think it's safe to say that most of us have found it easier and more natural to love those who are easily lovable or of positive polarity, then finding it not hard to love those who are of mixed polarity, and yet have found it most difficult when initially awakened to find love for the negative polarity. At least, this is true for myself and everyone I've spoken with who are awakened. As such, sending love to the negative entities specifically is correcting an imbalance, not creating one. It merely reinforces our journey as radiant sto positive beings that we love all unconditionally, and recognizes that we have not always showered those more selfish with such love.