(04-29-2012, 07:56 AM)Liet Wrote: A sudden increasal in femenine energies yield the symptoms of the common cold.
Now think exactly how much femenine energies are (supposedly) coming our way, around the mentioned date... it might be lethal ammounts for those not capable of handling it.

(04-29-2012, 09:05 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: I turn 21 on May 2nd, putting all of this together with my experiences over the last few weeks and I have a feeling some interesting times are close by. I feel completely at peace.

(04-30-2012, 12:20 AM)Avocado Wrote:

(04-29-2012, 07:56 AM)Liet Wrote: A sudden increasal in femenine energies yield the symptoms of the common cold.
Now think exactly how much femenine energies are (supposedly) coming our way, around the mentioned date... it might be lethal ammounts for those not capable of handling it.

Interesting. My dad had a cold in January for the first time in 20-30 years. I can't remember how many decades he said but it was definitely in that range.

(04-29-2012, 09:05 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: I turn 21 on May 2nd, putting all of this together with my experiences over the last few weeks and I have a feeling some interesting times are close by. I feel completely at peace.

think you're right I remember a while back you mentioned a lot of us here on b4th are turning 21 this year. You said something interesting will happen near your birthday and I was thinking "yeah but not mine". Boy was I wrong. I'm finding peace again. It's difficult to express in words how grateful I am for our freedom to let it all fall away and simply be. My, what a wonderful thread this is. And Sagittarius... have a magical birthday!

(04-30-2012, 02:51 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Imagine how different we will all be this time next year (if we don't disappear )

(04-30-2012, 02:51 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Thanks mate, amazing how much you can change in a short period of time. Just comparing my way of thinking this time last year compared to now and the difference is staggering.

Imagine how different we will all be this time next year (if we don't disappear )

(04-29-2012, 08:02 PM)DuncanIdahoTPF Wrote: Well happy birthday to both of you, I turn 27 on Monday. Good first post and welcome.

(04-29-2012, 07:56 AM)Liet Wrote:

(04-29-2012, 03:48 AM)DuncanIdahoTPF Wrote: A question to gradualist logic: if the harvest is going to end up being small (although somewhat improved as was stated later on by Q'uo), what percentage of the population is that? Let's sat 5% for the sake of argument. What happens to the other 95% of the population between now and then?

Firstly, i'd estimate it to be around 15%...

A sudden increasal in femenine energies yield the symptoms of the common cold.
Now think exactly how much femenine energies are (supposedly) coming our way, around the mentioned date... it might be lethal ammounts for those not capable of handling it.

Ive experienced a functioning dampening cold two or three times in my life, for i have barely ever needed to increase in order to fight the viruses around me.. the most recent was due to my green ray going from gold towards bright gold.

Quote:It is a very exciting time for your planet and for those of us who have watched your people through a great deal of difficult learning. We see better rates of awakening, shall we say, than the probability vortices of, say, thirty years in the past would have suggested. And we are humbly grateful to be a small part of that energy that has pressed towards the light, has called to the light, and has anchored that light in relatively undistorted form. We thank each heart that beats, “love, love, love.” Thank you for the unimaginable effort that it takes each of you to keep your mind, your thoughts, and your heart on the beam, as this instrument would say. It is easy to be distracted by very many things and we find ourselves applauding the efforts of each of you to stay awake and stay on task.

Quote:One reason there is no need to fear these changes is that these changes are largely non-physical. As the questioner expressed the question, it was clear that the questioner was aware that they take place in the unseen realms, the inner planes. Therefore, while these changes are absolutely radical and revolutionary, they are not changes that will affect life as you know it on planet Earth. Consensus reality shall reflect only shadows of these changes.
In terms of your living out your natural life, there is no physical catastrophe that is necessary in order to express the changes that the planet is going through. Humankind is another story in terms of the possibility of planetary disaster. The planet itself does not need to extinguish itself in order for fourth density to emerge. However, there is a troubling tendency within humankind to use violence and the expressions of violence of which your people are capable at this time. The only reason for fear that we would see in the picture that we look at at this time is that tendency among your people to feel that it is possible to create a better situation than the one that is currently had by destroying people, buildings and the environments with your weapons of mass destruction. Enough of those weapons of mass destruction going off at one time could indeed remove life from the planet entirely.

Quote:In terms of what is happening to the planet, the third-density planet Earth on which you live is gradually exhausting its capacity to offer an environment in which third-density entities can incarnate. The energies have been strengthened, especially in the last ten years or so, as we said, by many groups such as yours who gather for reasons larger than themselves, and you have in common a great love for the Creator and a great desire to serve the Creator.
This whole-hearted stretching and reaching for the light and this growing desire to learn the truth among so many of your people have greatly aided the situation as regards the strength of the field of third density at this time. It is very likely—and we are looking only at probability vortices, not actual predictions—that your people will not only be able to live out their current incarnations here but that there will be enough energy within third density to maintain third-density bodies and the energies of evolution, in terms of the spirit, for some of your time, perhaps as many as a hundred or a hundred and fifty of your years. It is difficult but not impossible to predict with any accuracy what shall occur with your people. However, the time of third density for doing third-density work is virtually over.
Those not in incarnation at this time will not have another shot at living on planet Earth, taking flesh, and becoming choice-making, ethical, biological units, as this entity likes to call human beings, from the work of the one known as Dewey. It is not, however, a cause for fear that this is occurring. This is perfectly in order.
And, indeed, that which remains to be done by entities living in third-density bodies on planet Earth is, for the most part, not personal but rather has to do with the energy of so many among your people, which has a kind of group karma to it. This energy is that which those among your people who have destroyed parts of their planet or their entire planet in previous attempts at third-density evolution have carried with them to this point. There is a lot of healing that various entities for various reasons wish to accomplish. In many cases they do not even really know how to accomplish this healing process. More and more entities, we feel, will find a connection between their own health, in terms of their spiritual health, and the health of the planet on which they live..

Quote:Eventually, your planet will no longer be able to sustain the evolutionary energy necessary to live a third-density life. Once this has occurred and there are no longer any third-density entities dwelling on the planet, fourth density will indeed become able not only to interpenetrate third density but to appear. At this point in its development, all of fourth density chooses not to appear. It chooses to remain as an unseen energy in order to allow the third-density entities to complete their patterns.

Quote:
You cannot become a fourth-density entity within third density. However you would be surprised how deep a change that you can make in the life of your body, as well as your mind and your spirit, by disciplining your thoughts. This instrument has talked many times about trying to live with fourth-density values, seeing what you can do, when you become aware of the thoughts that you are thinking, to examine them for what they may have to offer you. It is very helpful to see what you are thinking about and then to ask yourself if you could perhaps tune that instrument that you are to clearer and more productive thoughts.

Quote:You have time to direct your thinking and to pursue your seeking. There are some years yet of third-density energy. We do encourage you, however, to move ahead at this time with your choice-making and to be as faithful as you can to the intention of that first choice. For you enter now into a time, in perhaps six or seven of your years, when you shall no longer be able to make that initial choice. Time is short.

Quote:The work of this group and many, many others like it, as well as many individuals working alone in terms of physicality, have created a grace period. Since 1998 in your counting, you have been living on grace alone. This grace continues. It shall not continue beyond a certain point. For you see, at a certain point it is as though there were energies mixed in a glass of water.

Quote:Your Earth shall become, in the fullness of time, a fourth-density positive planet. However, there is a golden period that is coming for your people. It is a time when those entities who have graduated third density and who are very concerned with the karmic patterns of their past are going to be able to create a time of restitution on planet Earth.

Quote:It will be a difficult time. It will be a challenging time. For the technology that you have currently created will not be adequate to the needs of the future. You will be creating new ways to do things. But the energy that is among you will clear tremendously from that which you are experiencing at this time. Those entities among you at this time that are attempting to graduate service to self will have moved on. Those entities who remain upon the planet shall be those positively-oriented entities whose concerns involve restitution to this planet.

Quote:There is another group of entities who shall be upon your planet for some time into the future if they so choose. These are entities who are not able to graduate into fourth density, or higher densities if they were wanderers, but who yet feel that karmic pull and wish to make restitution. Those include many who are alive at this time, and you will find that many entities will be attempting more and more to refocus upon the needs of the planet and its resources. They will be wishing to clean its water, its air, and its soil.

(04-30-2012, 11:40 PM)Bang Kaew Wrote: that is what I deduced. Q'uo said something about after 2012 those not harvested would help repair the planet and therefore pay some of the debt they accumulated from damaging the planet.

(04-30-2012, 10:33 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:

(04-30-2012, 02:51 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Imagine how different we will all be this time next year (if we don't disappear )

What if you're already in 4D and haven't realized it? Just a thought.
Maybe letting go of the belief of "I'm in 3D or I'm in 4D".

We create our reality. I choose to believe that I just am, wherever I am. I let the Universe bring to me what needs to be in order to be who I truly am.

(04-30-2012, 11:53 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:

(04-30-2012, 11:40 PM)Bang Kaew Wrote: that is what I deduced. Q'uo said something about after 2012 those not harvested would help repair the planet and therefore pay some of the debt they accumulated from damaging the planet.

Nowhere did Q'uo say that those staying on the planet to help it heal, were those not harvestable. They may be harvestable but have just chosen to stay.

Quote:There is another group of entities who shall be upon your planet for some time into the future if they so choose. These are entities who are not able to graduate into fourth density, or higher densities if they were wanderers, but who yet feel that karmic pull and wish to make restitution. Those include many who are alive at this time, and you will find that many entities will be attempting more and more to refocus upon the needs of the planet and its resources. They will be wishing to clean its water, its air, and its soil.

(05-01-2012, 12:27 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: I have no doubt we are accessing 4d at this very moment however It feels like only a trickle of a stream at the moment. At least for me.

(05-01-2012, 07:51 AM)Cyan Wrote: I feel the future is as follows:

By 2030 we will reach technological singularity ANYWAY and live forever.

IT is likely that all those in this realm at this moment who have basic physical health and strive to have extended physical health will live around the year 10.000AD which will enable the future self to contact the same past self, and as we become more aware of that we are right now in ar eality matrix where this brain can literally live forever. We assume we live forever, and such a transition in thoughts is the "veil" because we realise that the history beyond 19th century is all or can all be a fabrication and in reality it is just "us" in "someplace" and that someplace is no reaching a point of infinite time while within a finite body. This offers unbeliavable opportunities in mental developement. Nothing will have to be postponed because "it would take too long" because such a defence would make no sense. Any self inhibiting due to mortality or time is gone. IF that isnt 4th D i dont know what is. Forever life for all those alive now who strive for it and are willing to accept that such a thing would require the world around to change, and the morals and such to change. THe more you accept the coming change the more likely the stress wont end up killing you. IF you just accept that you are in an eternal simulation that runs forever adn this body can actually within time acheive anything it wishes for as long as it wishes, you can have anything you ever want. As this becomes more commonly knows, its likely that the veil will just vanish because it will no longer make sense to think of a paradise beyond death as better than the paradise now. And all hierarchical models besides absolutely the present moment will no longer make sense. So, no authority models, no hierarchies, just the infinite present moment and a never ending paradise of infinite fractal reality =)

Quote:This whole-hearted stretching and reaching for the light and this growing desire to learn the truth among so many of your people have greatly aided the situation as regards the strength of the field of third density at this time. It is very likely—and we are looking only at probability vortices, not actual predictions—that your people will not only be able to live out their current incarnations here but that there will be enough energy within third density to maintain third-density bodies and the energies of evolution, in terms of the spirit, for some of your time, perhaps as many as a hundred or a hundred and fifty of your years. It is difficult but not impossible to predict with any accuracy what shall occur with your people. However, the time of third density for doing third-density work is virtually over.

(05-03-2012, 10:09 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: What if it's like this:

I am going to be part of a sixth density collective.

There must be some 2D and 1D beings that will be part of my 6D being.

For giggles, say I am harvestable to 4D. What if, at the striking of the hour, my 3D graduates to 4D, and my 6D being simultaneously promotes our 2D being into my current 3D self.

This would be a shift and non would be wiser.

Lol.

Quote:Ephren Taylor Accused of $11 Million Christian Ponzi Scheme by SEC

"Everything he says is based on the word of God," Long pledged to the members of his megachurch. But Taylor wasn't a visiting minister. He was a financial adviser, one who claimed to have made his first million before he turned 18. And he promised he could do the same for his fellow Christians.

"We're going to show you how to get wealth and use it for the building of his kingdom," Taylor shouted to the congregation one morning in 2009. It was all part of what he called his "Building Wealth Tour," which crisscrossed the country touting his investments and financial advice.

But according to the Securities and Exchange Commission, what Taylor was actually peddling was a giant Ponzi scheme, one aimed to "swindle over $11 million, primarily from African-American churchgoers," that reached into churches nationwide, from Long's megachurch in Atlanta to Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church congregation in Houston.

(05-10-2012, 06:59 PM)hogey11 Wrote: readjustment is excellent! I think sometimes we have to work at seeing how everyone is right. Between the 'sudden' and 'gradual' camps... Why can't it be both? Maybe that's why it was never plainly determined.