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RE: Which AM am I? - Shin'Ar - 03-12-2012
It is astounding how truth reveals itself when it is bounced off of two reflections that both point to it in such concert.
I was literally stunned by Godvoid's perception and understanding. If only I could speak my thoughts with such eloquence and clarity. That consciousness has experienced much.
And then Gary seems to dance right in step with him managing to add further to Godvoid's thoughts.
As we stand below and look into the sky for God, and our consciousness connects with the One, we realize what we truly are if we could just keep heading in that direction toward the Light. And as the One looks back, at the continuing thought that spawned from It long ago, do you suppose It sees what we see in the mirror; an individual of flesh? I suppose it sees Itself, and I do not suppose that the One would see Itself as the temporary form I wear now. We are consciousness, just like the One from which we were spawned.
But, choice is still ours to treasure. And with that I choose to be Light instead of darkness, or at least more light than dark, to the best of my effort, so that when I connect with the One, We will know each other as Light, and be One Light.
RE: Which AM am I? - godwide_void - 03-12-2012
Likewise GLB, our thoughts are very much aligned and I highly appreciate your insightful extension. I appreciate also your correction of my incorrect application of the word "penultimate", I've been mistakenly using it to mean super ultimate more times than I can count! Nevertheless such a mistake won't occur anymore due to you, so thank you.
Your bringing up the point of disidentification is also very perceptive, in that one should not allow certain aspects of this illusion to serve as the defining factor of one's existence.Ankh, realize that Ra does not perceive us as being "individual people" or "the sky" or "a bird". From their view they are able to comprehend our true form as being smaller aspects of the Creator. When trying to grasp the meaning of "we are all things" in relation to our world, great care should be taken so as to not drive oneself mad, and certain paradigms need to be considered. In your attempted comprehension of the example Gary offered of the correlation between the clouds, the sky, and the individual you seem to be trying to approach it from a literal angle and viewing it from a 3rd Density-adherent lens.
You, being the mind/body/spirit your particular awareness of the Creator is experiencing itself as, is completely distinct from the cloud comprised of water particles within the sky. The sky, the cloud, the water particles, you, all serve different functions and are separate from one another. However, the notion that you and the sky/cloud/water particles are all one in the same is correct when you cease identification of these things as how they appear to you in this illusion. It is true that "we are all things" when you see yourself as Creator, and view the water particles comprising the cloud in the sky as all holding divine essence. Simply put, the Creation is a part of the Creator. You are perceptive when you mention fractals/fractions, as we live in a fractalled megacosm; the smaller part contains in itself the whole. Insects are Creator, animals are Creator, the elements are Creator, the human being is Creator. Keep in mind that we are also simultaneously the Creation of the Creator. Ra's statement that "We are all things" is both a simple yet deeply complex one, and such a statement needs to be heavily analyzed and deconstructed before its true meaning is understood.
I hope I was able to further clarify this for you.
(03-12-2012, 07:00 PM)ShinAr Wrote: It is astounding how truth reveals itself when it is bounced off of two reflections that both point to it in such concert.
I was literally stunned by Godvoid's perception and understanding. If only I could speak my thoughts with such eloquence and clarity. That consciousness has experienced much.
And then Gary seems to dance right in step with him managing to add further to Godvoid's thoughts.
As we stand below and look into the sky for God, and our consciousness connects with the One, we realize what we truly are if we could just keep heading in that direction toward the Light. And as the One looks back, at the continuing thought that spawned from It long ago, do you suppose It sees what we see in the mirror; an individual of flesh? I suppose it sees Itself, and I do not suppose that the One would see Itself as the temporary form I wear now. We are consciousness, just like the One from which we were spawned.
But, choice is still ours to treasure. And with that I choose to be Light instead of darkness, or at least more light than dark, to the best of my effort, so that when I connect with the One, We will know each other as Light, and be One Light.
You give me more recognition than I deserve, my friend. I am but a mere student of life and I acknowledge that I know nothing, and what I understand has arisen from my desire to seek the truth. In my pursuits I have been extremely fortunate enough to stumble upon the Bring4th forums and have been blessed with the opportunity to correspond with fellow aspects of the Creator who are, at the very least, consciously aware that they are Creator and seek to expand upon this understanding. When I read through this forum I am in great awe as to the thoughts presented here and I am delighted when I find myself in a dialogue with those here, for I understand that it is the essence of the Creator behind every word. Every thought I exchange with another and is exchanged with me, furthers understanding for both parties (and thus we simultaneously teach and learn). What I learn here, from the Law of One, from any source which I have attracted to myself and my own meditations I apply to my normal day-to-day life, and the Universe continues to teaches me in all moments.
Your post moved me in the paragraph where you question what the Creator sees. There is no way of knowing what the Creator sees because, for the eternal time being, we are its infinite representations, thus facilitating an infinite variety of manners in which perception may differ. There is no wrong way of perceiving the Creation, but in the grand scheme of things, there is no truly "right" we could possibly, at this current existential nexus, view things because we are still present within an illusion in this density. However, I assume that the Creator does not view "temporary forms" or regard itself as "consciousness". It is All. We will never come close to comprehending how it perceives Itself. We may only speculate on its ineffable nature and its omnidirectional and omnipresent beingness. And for now, the only inkling we have as to how the Creator perceives Itself can be found everywhere around you... how do you, GLB, Ankh and I perceive the Creator? There is your answer.
RE: Which AM am I? - Shin'Ar - 03-12-2012
As Thoth always teaches us, the Mystery shall always remain for that is the tail we can never catch, and yet our own tail.
RE: Which AM am I? - godwide_void - 03-12-2012
Indeed, the most we can do is to be aware that the Divine Mystery is there, for true understanding is not of this world, and is not meant for us to attain. However, when one acknowledges that behind all that one undergoes exists an all-encompassing presence which orchestrates all things, and that it is entirely possible to orient one's beingness in order to establish a more powerful connection and interpersonal, interactive relationship between yourself and this "invisible force", the Divine Presence will begin to make Itself known in all areas of ones life, and as such, the Mystery retains its mysteriousness.
RE: Which AM am I? - BrownEye - 03-14-2012
It is to be remembered, my friends, that service to others is service to one's self. Notice that we do not say that service is like unto service to one's self. There is no similarity between others and ourselves. There is identity. There is completion and unity. Therefore, that which is felt of a negative nature towards a sheep of the flock is felt towards one's self and is felt toward the Creator. This enters the service which you attempt to give to yourself and to the Creator through service to another and causes a blot or a stain upon the perfect service you would have performed. It must be remembered that each person is a completely free entity whose independence must in no way be shaken and yet whose identity remains one with you.
I have to say that "self" mentioned is not the physical/ego program self.