(11-04-2011, 01:29 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: You may well be right, but I'm wondering how harvest will play out, then, for those not currently in incarnation, who Ra says will also be harvested. If there's not an obvious transition point such as death and if there's no planet-wide event, what causes them to walk the steps of light?

Ra Wrote:Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.

Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true color locus in space/time and time/space at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.

(11-04-2011, 02:39 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: All at once, or one by one? If it's all at once, then it's an event rather than a process. If it's one by one, who decides when it's time for them to take their turn?

Quote:51.1 Questioner: I was wondering if there is a supervision over the harvest and if so, why this supervision is necessary and how it works since an entity’s harvestability is determined by the violet ray? Is it necessary for entities to supervise the harvest, or is it automatic?

Ra: I am Ra. In time of harvest there are always harvesters. The fruit is formed as it will be, but there is some supervision necessary to ensure that this bounty is placed as it should be without the bruise or the blemish.

There are those of three levels watching over harvest.

The first level is planetary and that which may be called angelic. This type of guardian includes the mind/body/spirit complex totality or Higher Self of an entity and those inner plane entities which have been attracted to this entity through its inner seeking.

The second class of those who ward this process are those of the Confederation who have the honor/duty of standing in the small places at the edge of the steps of light/love so that those entities being harvested will not, no matter how confused or unable to make contact with their Higher Self, stumble and fall away for any reason other than the strength of the light. These Confederation entities catch those who stumble and set them aright so that they may continue into the light.

The third group watching over this process is that group you call the Guardians. This group is from the octave above our own and serves in this manner as light bringers. These Guardians provide the precise emissions of light/love in exquisitely fastidious disseminations of discrimination so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained.

Thus the harvest is automatic in that those harvested will respond according to that which is unchangeable during harvest. That is the violet ray emanation. However, these helpers are around to ensure a proper harvesting so that each entity may have the fullest opportunity to express its violet ray selfhood.

(11-03-2011, 08:36 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(11-03-2011, 06:33 PM)Namaste Wrote: 3) Not sure what freely shared intelligent energy entails. Anyone?

Healing is one type of shared intelligent energy. It's analogous to the 'formmaker' where a viable body (free of the problematic distortion) is offered to the one to be healed, which they may or may not then accept. Sometimes it's easier for another to assist in healing work.

Another type of shared intelligent energy is where you share some aspect of your interiority.

Another type is where you would create a lifeform or assemble matter or change matter.

(11-04-2011, 02:55 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I wonder if the catalyst of waiting in traffic will turn many STS..

(11-05-2011, 01:29 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Do you reckon creating music and sharing it freely is another example of "shared intelligent energy"?

(11-05-2011, 01:29 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Do you reckon creating music and sharing it freely is another example of "shared intelligent energy"?

(11-03-2011, 06:33 PM)Namaste Wrote: Hence, the date itself is not the event, but a marker. A 'tick-tock', of the cosmic clock; the signifier of the ability to harvest upon death; the opening of the gateway to ascension. The vehicle that takes us through said gateway? Death.

The harvest debate is then not instant vs. gradual. It's upon death in one's own time. There will be no 21/12/2012 induced cataclysm, no sudden 'pop' into 4D at 11:11am, and no time-span of X generations to evolve into 4D from this point. We simply birth into 4D upon our next incarnation (if that's what we choose), as long as we make it to that frequency when walking the steps of light.

Perhaps this is what the Mayans (and other ancient cultures) are so excited about, and why they anticipate it with such dedication; their clocks track the cycles of consciousness. They chart/calculate the opening of the gateway to fourth density, a new age, a rebirth, and this is why they say it's such a gift to be incarnated at this moment in time. We often talk of the Mayan calendar, and the coming of a new age, but rarely do we equate it to the opening of a gateway upon death itself.

Quote:14.14 Questioner: Would there be any value to the people of this planet now to complete this machine?
Ra: I am Ra. The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions toward longevity, but rather to encourage distortions toward seeking the heart of self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each mind/body/spirit complex.

14.15 Questioner: Going back to when we started this 75,000 year period, there was a harvest 25,000 years after the start which would make it 50,000 years ago. Can you tell me how many were harvested at that time?
Ra: I am Ra. The harvest was none.

14.16 Questioner: There was no harvest? What about 25,000 years ago?
Ra: I am Ra. A harvesting began taking place in the latter portion, as you measure time/space, of the second cycle, with individuals finding the gateway to intelligent infinity. The harvest of that time, though extremely small, was those entities of extreme distortion towards service to the entities who were now to repeat the major cycle. These entities, therefore, remained in third density although they could, at any moment/present nexus, leave this density through use of intelligent infinity.

14.17 Questioner: Then in the harvest 25,000 years ago, the entities who could have been harvested into the fourth density chose to remain here in service to this planetary population. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Thus, there was no harvest, but there were harvestable entities who shall choose the manner of their entrance into fourth dimension.

14.18 Questioner: Then for the last 2,300 years you have been working to create as large a harvest as possible at the end of the total 75,000 year cycle. Can you state with respect to the Law of One why you do this?

Quote:17.25 Questioner: How did Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, and Rasputin get harvested prior to the harvest?
Ra: I am Ra. It is the right/privilege/duty of those opening consciously the gate to intelligent infinity to choose the manner of their leaving of third density. Those of negative orientation who so achieve this right/duty most often choose to move forward in their learn/teaching of service to self.

17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?
Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

(12-21-2011, 08:25 AM)Namaste Wrote: "I am Ra. The harvest is now"

(12-21-2011, 11:08 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:

(12-21-2011, 08:25 AM)Namaste Wrote: "I am Ra. The harvest is now"

Ra also said "the harvesting is not yet." (6.19)

(12-21-2011, 11:08 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:

(12-21-2011, 08:25 AM)Namaste Wrote: "I am Ra. The harvest is now"

Ra also said "the harvesting is not yet." (6.19)

Quote:6.19 Questioner: Is it possible to estimate what percent of the present population will inhabit the fourth-density planet?

Ra: The harvesting is not yet, thus, estimation is meaningless.

Quote:34.16 Questioner: Would the red ray, an intense red ray, then be used as an index for seniority in incarnation as well as an intense violet ray?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. In the graduation or harvesting to fourth-density positive, the red ray is seen only as that, which being activated, is the basis for all that occurs in vibratory levels, the sum of this being violet ray energy.

(12-22-2011, 09:49 AM)Namaste Wrote: Harvesting is used with graduation. Transferable terms.

(12-22-2011, 09:49 AM)Namaste Wrote: It appears that:

Harvest = current tense; in progress
Harvesting = past tense; complete

(12-22-2011, 10:14 AM)zenmaster Wrote:

(12-22-2011, 09:49 AM)Namaste Wrote: Harvesting is used with graduation. Transferable terms.

It's also used without graduation, non-transferrable terms

(12-22-2011, 09:49 AM)Namaste Wrote: It appears that:

Harvest = current tense; in progress
Harvesting = past tense; complete

Harvest is also used past tense - complete and harvesting used both in future tense and present tense - incomplete.

Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. In the graduation or harvesting to fourth-density positive

(12-22-2011, 10:27 AM)Namaste Wrote: Actually, if you read each Q&A using the above 'harvesting' link, they are nearly all in the context of completion, .

(12-22-2011, 10:27 AM)Namaste Wrote: while the 'harvest' is about the process. Have a look for yourself. Of course, each is open to one's own interpretation

(11-03-2011, 06:33 PM)Namaste Wrote: Just stumbled upon this Q&A, and it's given me a new idea about the process of the harvest and the significance of 2012 (or whatever the actual date was, Ra gave only an approximation).

Ra's reply (specifically talking of death in relation to the harvest). Read this carefully...

Ra Wrote:Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.

Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true color locus in space/time and time/space at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.

This is quite clear, Ra states that during the normal pattern of death, during harvest there is an additional step. Walking the steps of light.

Hence, the date itself is not the event, but a marker. A 'tick-tock', of the cosmic clock; the signifier of the ability to harvest upon death; the opening of the gateway to ascension. The vehicle that takes us through said gateway? Death.

The harvest debate is then not instant vs. gradual. It's upon death in one's own time. There will be no 21/12/2012 induced cataclysm, no sudden 'pop' into 4D at 11:11am, and no time-span of X generations to evolve into 4D from this point. We simply birth into 4D upon our next incarnation (if that's what we choose), as long as we make it to that frequency when walking the steps of light.

Perhaps this is what the Mayans (and other ancient cultures) are so excited about, and why they anticipate it with such dedication; their clocks track the cycles of consciousness. They chart/calculate the opening of the gateway to fourth density, a new age, a rebirth, and this is why they say it's such a gift to be incarnated at this moment in time. We often talk of the Mayan calendar, and the coming of a new age, but rarely do we equate it to the opening of a gateway upon death itself.

At times I have thought, "Hmmm. 2012 -the harvest- is approaching, and there are so many people who need help. Not enough time!". Yet, we have our remaining lives, rather than a year (or even less), in which to be of service to others; to help uplift, inspire and empower. More time to help increase the harvest (and to balance/polarise while doing so).

How to graduate?

Quote:48.6 Questioner: Thank you. I would like to take as an example an entity, starting before birth, who is roughly high on the seniority list for positive polarization and possible harvestability at the end of this cycle and follow a full cycle of his experience starting before his incarnation. <snip> Could you do that for me?

Ra: I am Ra. <snip>

The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority [great chance of making the harvest] will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the [#1] green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity [scarcity]; that is, honesty. [#2] Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with otherself. Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue-ray of freely given communication, of [#3] indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy, and if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of [#4] violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate or hallowed nature of everyday creations and activities.

Not the main point of this post, but invaluable information for those wanting to balance and jump on the harvest train...

1) Opening the heart; compassion and service to others
2) Honesty with yourself and others
3) Offering healing, teaching, telekinesis - skills of the adept
4) Gratitude for the divinity in all

Much love :¬)

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Update!

Some new information has come to my attention which has given me a new understanding of the harvest. The only difference is that the harvest has already begun, and the date 2012 is a marker of the completion of Earth's 4D (STO) sphere, making it habitable.

Essentially - all the above remains the same; we each have the gift of living out our current incarnations in which to serve/polarise/balance. Death remains as the doorway in which to move to fourth density positive.

Read this for supporting thoughts and quotes from Ra and Q'uo

(11-06-2011, 07:14 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Ruth, Namaste, Gemini Wolf, zenmaster, thank you all for your thoughtful input.

Now do you suppose that music that is shared freely that is created with the intention of being in service of, inspired by, and dedicated to, the One Infinite Creator and meant to transmit positive energies and feelings of peace to those who listen to it (and hopefully serve as catalyst for awakening to some!) is especially service-oriented?

And what if it was a saga of albums that focuses on the same thing this forum is based upon?

The Law of One
Octave of Creation
Ouroboric Aesthetics of the Divine

[/shamelessselfpromotion]

Let's all be of service, in our own special and unique ways, regardless how big or small it is, so that when the gateway to Ascension is opened upon death, none of of us will be left behind.

(11-03-2011, 06:33 PM)Namaste Wrote: There will be no 21/12/2012 induced cataclysm,

(02-15-2012, 11:06 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(11-03-2011, 06:33 PM)Namaste Wrote: There will be no 21/12/2012 induced cataclysm,

Seems that, indeed, there might just be a global cataclysm that is related to that date. Not that it matters.

(02-15-2012, 11:34 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:

(02-15-2012, 11:06 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(11-03-2011, 06:33 PM)Namaste Wrote: There will be no 21/12/2012 induced cataclysm,

Seems that, indeed, there might just be a global cataclysm that is related to that date. Not that it matters.

What is that??

(stuff matters, zen, let stuff matter)

(02-16-2012, 12:05 AM)zenmaster Wrote:

(02-15-2012, 11:34 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:

(02-15-2012, 11:06 PM)zenmaster Wrote:

(11-03-2011, 06:33 PM)Namaste Wrote: There will be no 21/12/2012 induced cataclysm,

Seems that, indeed, there might just be a global cataclysm that is related to that date. Not that it matters.

What is that??

(stuff matters, zen, let stuff matter)

It doesn't matter with respect to seeking, being centered, living in the moment, etc. There is nothing that can be said in words about impending destruction that will not be interpreted negatively by people, and therefore discussed from the standpoint of fear. In that sense it doesn't matter. It does matter in the sense of Namaste claiming to know something he doesn't know, however.

(02-16-2012, 05:58 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: By saying "there might just be a global cataclysm that is related to that date," do you mean that to say there might be because there it is impossible for us to rule out a global cataclysm on any given date?

(02-16-2012, 05:58 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: Or are you privy to clandestine knowledge regarding a possible cataclysm related to that date which you choose not to share because it may be interpreted negatively by others?

Quote:59.24 Questioner: When the planetary axis realigns, will it realign 20° east of north to conform to the green vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. We fear this shall be the last question as this entity rapidly increases its distortion towards what you call pain of the body complex.

There is every indication that this will occur. We cannot speak of certainties but are aware that the grosser or less dense materials will be pulled into conformation with the denser and lighter energies which give your Logos its proceedings through the realms of experience.

May we answer any brief queries at this time?