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RE: Tolerance and spirituality are not the same thing - 3-24-2022 - 05-05-2022
It's worth noting that they consider themselves separate from Asia, the Mideast too.
In Europe Asia as a term means everywhere from Japan to the mideast.
When north Americans say Asia they mean China and India, south Asia
I've read people in Iran consider themselves distinct from Asians and other arabs
This comment is to just give perspective.
RE: Tolerance and spirituality are not the same thing - Phoenix - 07-22-2022
I don't think tolerance has anything to do with what religion the country practices.
The reason we do not throw people off buildings in Europe when they are having sex with their own genders is that we are not a violently deranged sociopathic society. While Christianity may have had a large effect on the way our society is, providing background support of a sense. The reason we are more 'tolerant' and less violent, is that we have psychological health that is due to other things.
One of the biggest destroyers of IQ and health within a society is incest which destroys the genetics and this is practiced in a lot of countries where the average IQ is in the 90 ish range (between 70 - 90 people are stupid enough to think violence will actually help them achieve their goals, the higher the IQ the less inclined to violence). Also, the environment, the desert in some places so it is hard to struggle to survive and there is less civilisation, teaching etc. Unfavourable trading practices etc.
When Japan was bombed into the stoneage at the end of WW2 this was far more destructive then interventionist wars in the middle east but they recovered into a first world society. This has not been the same when wars and tragedies have afflicted other countries and they have been unable to recover.
On tolerance itself I don't necessarily think it's all that great. I find "tolerant" people to be the most passive aggressive and backstabbing and to allow the inclusion of inferior influences (narcissists and bullies) is only to invite degradation. I have definitely met lying, back stabbing, passive aggressive, centre left, stoners that consider themselves "tolerant". Here's a saying on tolerance:
"In the world it is called Tolerance, but in hell it is called Despair...the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die."
- Dorothy L Sayers.
RE: Tolerance and spirituality are not the same thing - LeiwoUnion - 07-22-2022
That last quote from Phoenix' post offers a juicy paradox in my view, as could not the same arguments be made about the absolute and total enlightement? This of course just reveals the incompleteness of such conspicuous aphorisms. It is well to stop and contemplate whenever a seeming paradox raises its head onto one's conscious awareness.
RE: Tolerance and spirituality are not the same thing - zedro - 07-22-2022
It's all paradoxes, as we must separate before we can achieve unity....
RE: Tolerance and spirituality are not the same thing - MrWho - 07-22-2022
All paradoxes are solved in unity.