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RE: Human Relationships and the Concept of Judgment - tadeus - 07-31-2021

(07-30-2021, 10:54 AM)Patrick Wrote: This could mean that you still have things you wished to learn/experience before releasing your little will to your greater will. There are things we program to learn before the incarnation, it's possible that if these are very important to you to learn, you will not find it possible to completely release your will and give yourself up fully before you have worked enough with those catalysts.

On the other hand, you have complete freewill and can at any time during the incarnation ask for all the preparations you have made to be replaced instead by the will of the One Infinite Creator. After all, the One knows even better than us what we need to learn.

That is pretty much what I have done now. I feel I have consciously totally given my self as an instrument. I don't feel the need to look up too far in the future to plan my progress. I just go with the flow. I do still plan though, like planning vacations in advance and stuff like that. Wink  But life pretty much just happens to me now.

It seems that the differences of handling the situation are small, but you have much more experience in doing it.

Yesterday i have read a channeling that fits good to the situation:

March 26, 2016, Saturday Meditation

Quote:Group question: Our question today deals with the idea of pre-incarnative planning and people experiencing the catalyst they need to learn their personal lessons. How can we reconcile the idea that people experience what they need for their personal growth with our desire to serve and relieve other souls of their suffering? Is there a line between allowing people to learn their lessons versus attempting to relieve a person of their suffering?

(Jim channeling)

I am Hatonn and come in the name of Jesus, the Christ, to speak through this instrument and we are most grateful to be invited by your group this afternoon.
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RE: Human Relationships and the Concept of Judgment - Patrick - 07-31-2021

"Is not happiness the goal of your illusion? No, my friends, happiness is not the goal of your illusion. Learning to love under all possible circumstances is indeed the goal which each of you seeks. This is not to say that one cannot feel happy, or joy, and still be upon the spiritual path. It is that the happiness is not that which you seek primarily. Happiness may be an outgrowth of your seeking."

Very good channelling on the subject. Smile

Learning to love under all conditions does make one appear a weirdo or even crazy. But it's becoming more hip nowadays to always be optimistic. In 20 years this will be normal and not weird at all.


RE: Human Relationships and the Concept of Judgment - tadeus - 07-31-2021

(07-31-2021, 07:59 AM)Patrick Wrote: "Is not happiness the goal of your illusion? No, my friends, happiness is not the goal of your illusion. Learning to love under all possible circumstances is indeed the goal which each of you seeks. This is not to say that one cannot feel happy, or joy, and still be upon the spiritual path. It is that the happiness is not that which you seek primarily. Happiness may be an outgrowth of your seeking."

Very good channelling on the subject. Smile

Learning to love under all conditions does make one appear a weirdo or even crazy. But it's becoming more hip nowadays to always be optimistic. In 20 years this will be normal and not weird at all.

Yes thanks - i was simply to lazy to find this perfect quote within the english Original.  Smile
Hopefully it will take merely 20 years ...


RE: Human Relationships and the Concept of Judgment - unity100 - 08-07-2021

(07-24-2021, 09:21 AM)Infinite Wrote: There is also the question of homosexuality, which they said it's a distortion

You have to accept and love even rocks, rivers, air, inanimate objects and whatever that exists to the extent of 51% in order to be positively harvestable. An actual person would be a no brainer of course. If your situation is so that you cant coexist with that person in the same place anymore, then you can get out and find your own way, but you must not denigrate, debase, leave aside hate that person even as you do that.


RE: Human Relationships and the Concept of Judgment - MonadicSpectrum - 08-08-2021

Ra Wrote:94.9...

Each mind/body/spirit complex that is seeking shall almost certainly have the immature and irrational behaviors. It is also the case that this entity, as well as almost all seekers, [has] done substantial work within the framework of the incarnative experience and [has] indeed developed maturity and rationality. That this instrument should fail to see that which has been accomplished and see only that which remains to be accomplished may well be noted. Indeed, any seeker discovering in itself this complex of mental and mental/emotional distortions shall ponder the possible non-efficacy of judgment.

I like to define judgment as applying to people while discernment applies to thoughts and actions. So while we all have immature and irrational behaviors (which may appear to be judgmental labels but are actually discerning labels given the prior definitions), it is not wise to assign the labels irrational and immature to any entity if one wishes to abstain from judgment. It is unwise to judge others because we not only lack the full context of the reasons the being is acting this way (such as trauma) and what they are trying to learn this incarnation (to balance these behaviors), but it is also not helpful if one wishes to help others choose behaviors that are more mature and more rational as an entity that feels judged will often not seek to improve due to the feeling of overwhelming guilt. On the other hand, it is wise to discern behaviors that are immature and irrational in the self and others and communicate these observations in a non-judgmental way to serve as a mirror to help others grow. But it is important to emphasize that it always their choice on how to respond to the feedback provided by the mirror.

Ra Wrote:101.8...

The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly. This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination.

I also recommend this talk by Matt Kahn on the subject of unraveling judgment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3pp-6aWWX8