(05-06-2021, 07:02 AM)Rempi Wrote: Thanks for sharing your thoughts guys.
Let me tell you this: For the most part, my life is seeking personal pleasure while trying in every possible way to not harm others in the process. Needless to say this is a very poop method of STS, as effective STS comes only from using others.
If I continue on this path I might end up with perfect 50% of polarization

(05-06-2021, 01:12 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Leafie every moment you are being observed and anything can be used as a test.

Some people think donating riches is good as it energy allows help to others.



The test is more complicated than that. There are bonus criteria.

(05-04-2021, 02:41 PM)Rempi Wrote: So Ra and quo say: If you’ve been at least 51% of your time altruistic you go to a nice heaven and you’re gonna incarnate in a body with superhuman powers. If you’ve only been altruistic 50% of your time you need to reincarnate for other 75.000 years (probably forgetting your past at every reincarnation) in 3rd density again.

(05-04-2021, 02:41 PM)Rempi Wrote: You can end up living in constant anxiety this way cause you have absolutely no way to tell how polarized you are.
Implicitly Quo is saying: “trade your current life’s happiness for much greater happiness in the next life.” What if that is a scam?

(05-04-2021, 02:41 PM)Rempi Wrote: What if theses channelings are just an extremely well made mind-trap delivered by some 5th density STS entity, for people like us that don’t fall too easily for the traditional dogmas like old school religions. 99% good stuff to lure you in and than hit with mind-handcuffs.
Maybe we all go to heaven after we die no matter what we did in this life.

(05-06-2021, 04:14 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: Personally, I don't really believe the "person" a person is in this life survives the death of the brain. Anything that can be given or taken away by a change in brain functioning -- e.g. illness, damage, drugs, surgery, etc. -- will cease to be when the brain ceases to function. There may still remain something, and it may be a distinct being of sorts, but it's beyond human imagination.

(05-06-2021, 05:56 AM)jafar Wrote: Progressing towards density is similar to spawning to another level inside a game.

Actually at any time there's always the option of:

Game Administrator (GA): "Welcome back! I hope you had an exciting experience on your last incarnation, how may I help you?"
Player: "I've used up all of my allocated karma allowance from my father for this game, I would like to disable my account, I'm logging off from this game permanently"
GA: "We can certainly help you with that! Here you go! And congratulations! You have achieved what according to Ra as 8th density and what is known as "Mokhsa" in Hindu tradition and what is known as "Pari Nirvana" in Buddhist tradition".

(05-06-2021, 09:10 PM)meadow-foreigner Wrote: Almost. 8th Density is just an octave higher in the infinite progression of evolution, for The Creation is infinite by definition.

L/Leema Wrote:The despair of the mind is an empty thing, full of no virtue except that of self-destruction. Within the mind there are limitations which have been given to the self by the self. Some of these limitations are those called limitations of intelligence. One of the burdens of increased intelligence is an increased capacity for despair.

And what, my friends, is that of which the mind despairs? The mind despairs of its very limitations. In truth there are no limitations—there are only challenges, lessons and glory. Yes, my friends, we say glory, for the stronger the despair, the more glorious the battle which may be waged to outlast the feelings of helplessness, doom and foreboding, uselessness, boredom and disinterest that altogether add up to the definition of despair. The despair of the mind is that which is not, standing in the face of that which is. Therefore the state of mental despair is folly and almost always unproductive. However, the dynamic of despair—that is, midnight as opposed to noon—is available to everyone, every spirit that lives in mind and body in your illusion at some time within the incarnation. Therefore, although it is useless, it is a common experience. In the grand scheme, the very uselessness of despair is that which limits man’s ability to feel it. It is, rather, a dynamic against which one plays out one’s incarnation, the other dynamic being pure joy. It is between those two poles that one may analyze one’s true position with regard to the learning of the one great original Thought of love.

Therefore, that which is useless is rather a constant, an undertone within the life experience, always available, in which the mind knows nothing. Mental joy is the opposing dynamic in which the mind knows all. These are the limits within your illusion of that which we call love.
The despair of the body is a reflection of the despair of the mind. When an entity is in possession of mental despair and has not moved from that dynamic into a productive mode of thinking, analyzing, feeling and acting, that despair becomes incorporated within the body complex. Thence comes disease and ultimately death. Therefore, the wages of continued despair are the death of the body and therefore the death of the intelligence which informs the body. There you have form and function, form, as always, following function.

Spiritual despair, on the other hand, is an absolute necessity. It is, rather than being a zero, a moving dynamic within that which informs the growth and evolution of spirit. It is only metaphysical despair, that is, the recognition that one knows nothing, that one has lost control of everything, and that one is faced with complete darkness of soul which forces that great sliver or portion of the one Creator which is your consciousness to turn, transform, and begin the new; not having left behind that which is old in the soul, but adding unto it, accreting more wisdom, more compassion, and more and more of a feeling of unity which one can receive only when one has become desperate enough to release oneself from the expectation of any knowledge whatsoever.

Above Wrote:We thank you for asking this question in order that we may share what humble thoughts we may have with you. We realize that our style of speaking, reflecting as it does our density, may be less warming than others of your contacts. We are as we are, and we thank you for calling us from the very depths of our beings. We thank you also for being who you are, for you are all joys to us. ... I am L/Leema.

Above as well Wrote:There is a way in which one may use mental despair and its reflection in the physical body complex to best effect. That is to transmute mental despair into what this instrument would call the dark night of the soul or spiritual despair. One cannot analyze despair and rise transformed. One cannot act out despair by illness and rise transformed. One can, however, seek the grace and comfort that is your birthright in transmuting that which is lower into that which is higher. For as you know, my friends, one portion of the creation is a holograph for all else in the creation, thus mental despair may, as alchemists [would] change lead to gold, be changed into the dark night of the soul, burnished and shining. This spiritual despair then may transform itself into great revolutions and positive and forward changes within the spirit.

The spirit is always the same. It is not a portion of your illusion. However, your perception of the spirit can only grow. All that you have learned before is still yours and all that is ahead of you shall be learned because of turning from despair. It is rare that one enters into or graduates from any initiation without the impetus, the pain, and the challenge of spiritual despair. Therefore, if your soul is in agony, rejoice, for it is from this point that all good comes. Despair is the great opportunity to endure, to show strength, to indicate faith, and to exercise the will, not just the will to think but the will to do.

(05-07-2021, 02:29 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote:  
I won't copy the whole thing here, but this session has a lot to say about despair.  If the topic really interests you, more can be read here:
https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1985/1985_0922.aspx

L/Leema Wrote:The despair of the mind is an empty thing, full of no virtue except that of self-destruction. Within the mind there are limitations which have been given to the self by the self. Some of these limitations are those called limitations of intelligence. One of the burdens of increased intelligence is an increased capacity for despair.

And what, my friends, is that of which the mind despairs? The mind despairs of its very limitations. In truth there are no limitations—there are only challenges, lessons and glory. Yes, my friends, we say glory, for the stronger the despair, the more glorious the battle which may be waged to outlast the feelings of helplessness, doom and foreboding, uselessness, boredom and disinterest that altogether add up to the definition of despair. The despair of the mind is that which is not, standing in the face of that which is. Therefore the state of mental despair is folly and almost always unproductive. However, the dynamic of despair—that is, midnight as opposed to noon—is available to everyone, every spirit that lives in mind and body in your illusion at some time within the incarnation. Therefore, although it is useless, it is a common experience. In the grand scheme, the very uselessness of despair is that which limits man’s ability to feel it. It is, rather, a dynamic against which one plays out one’s incarnation, the other dynamic being pure joy. It is between those two poles that one may analyze one’s true position with regard to the learning of the one great original Thought of love.

Therefore, that which is useless is rather a constant, an undertone within the life experience, always available, in which the mind knows nothing. Mental joy is the opposing dynamic in which the mind knows all. These are the limits within your illusion of that which we call love.
The despair of the body is a reflection of the despair of the mind. When an entity is in possession of mental despair and has not moved from that dynamic into a productive mode of thinking, analyzing, feeling and acting, that despair becomes incorporated within the body complex. Thence comes disease and ultimately death. Therefore, the wages of continued despair are the death of the body and therefore the death of the intelligence which informs the body. There you have form and function, form, as always, following function.

Spiritual despair, on the other hand, is an absolute necessity. It is, rather than being a zero, a moving dynamic within that which informs the growth and evolution of spirit. It is only metaphysical despair, that is, the recognition that one knows nothing, that one has lost control of everything, and that one is faced with complete darkness of soul which forces that great sliver or portion of the one Creator which is your consciousness to turn, transform, and begin the new; not having left behind that which is old in the soul, but adding unto it, accreting more wisdom, more compassion, and more and more of a feeling of unity which one can receive only when one has become desperate enough to release oneself from the expectation of any knowledge whatsoever.

 

In brief, if you're depressed, it might be because you're intelligent.  But you're still not smart enough to know that all the mental gyrations you can possible spin out won't get you off the starting line because you actually don't know enough to know that you don't know anything useful......beyond how to post stuff on an internet forum.  The mental approach (the blah, blah, blah) is folly because meaningful satisfaction does not enter through the mind....regardless of how satisfying it may feel to rant like this!

I hope this helps.

   
PS: It's funny to note that my style of humour is very seldom contagious.

  

(05-07-2021, 10:40 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: It's not so much that the mind can't be involved in, or integrated with the higher faculties, and thus "meaningful satisfaction" ...it's just so often in this veiled experience we are having, the mind is seen as separate or superior from the faculties that should guide it. Or for some individuals they aren't even aware of the existence of those higher faculties at all. They think they are simply a product of logic and instinct.

(05-08-2021, 08:02 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: All people can do is to experience psionic abilities personally. That way they don't have to theorize or try to debunk whatever they read or see on the tv/internet. Personal experience is far better than reading books. Remembering is better than reading too.

(05-04-2021, 02:41 PM)Rempi Wrote: The concept is that of successful graduation or failure to graduate.
So Ra and quo say: If you’ve been at least 51% of your time altruistic you go to a nice heaven and you’re gonna incarnate in a body with superhuman powers. If you’ve only been altruistic 50% of your time you need to reincarnate for other 75.000 years (probably forgetting your past at every reincarnation) in 3rd density again.