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RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Patrick - 03-16-2021 (03-16-2021, 11:02 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: ... The illusion of time is a useful tool for us at this time. I figured you might like to see my notes on the cosmology of the Law of One. -- Summary of the cosmology from the Ra material. 1) The first known thing in creation is infinity. The infinity is creation. 2) Infinity became aware (intelligent infinity). 3) Intelligent Infinity became aware of the concept of free will. 4) It realized It was even free to consider the idea of many-ness, that is, more than one. Free will immediately gives rise to many-ness. 5) Intelligent Infinity decided to explore this idea. In so doing Intelligent Infinity became the Creator. 6) The 1st distortion, free will, finds focus. This is the 2nd distortion the Creative Principle or Love. (Love may be seen as the type of energy of an extremely high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in a particular way. All Love emanates from the Oneness.) 7) Love uses Its intelligent energy to create a certain pattern of illusions or densities in order to satisfy Its own intelligent estimate of a method of knowing itself. 8) This intelligent energy thus creates a distortion known as Light. From these 3 distortions come many, many hierarchies of distortions each having its own paradoxes to be synthesized, no one being any more important than another. 9) Due to the infinite possibilities of intelligent infinity, there is no ending to many-ness. The exploration thus is free to continue infinitely into an eternal present. Here is a nice explanation of it all from our current perspective in 3d. (09-07-2012, 09:23 AM)Raz Wrote: I believe that the result is there; we experience it as the "future attractor". This reality is like an equation or prequel, designed to create a deeper understanding of that result. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ming the Merciful - 03-16-2021 I watched, (yet) another interesting video on YouTube. Putting forward the supposition that the Universe itself is intelligent. Meaning, there is no actual Godly figure, but the Universe is a living entity. Which is the mainstream belief of various cultures worldwide and stretching into Zen and Shinto. Shinto has remained an untouched subject. The argument was, just because a rock is seen as to not having any self-awareness, (as we know it). Who is to say that a rock has a different interpretation of Reality than we do. Is a rock self-aware? The same thesis could be taken to the next level, in plants, trees and the lower life-forms. What is self-awareness? So, if everything has a state of awareness, it could spread on a micro to a macro level. As above, so below. Your witness councillor. Peace Brother. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - flofrog - 03-16-2021 From Ra Session 3.8 Quote:Ra: I am Ra. You must picture the activity within all that is created. The energy is, though finite, quite large compared to the understanding/distortion of your peoples. This is an obvious point well known to your peoples, but little considered. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ming the Merciful - 03-16-2021 (03-16-2021, 04:58 PM)flofrog Wrote: From Ra Session 3.8 How do you define "Everything"? Everything simultaneously, everywhere, in the moment? That is how you describe it logically and logistically. Then intellectual Mind gets in the way, and Intuition is pushed aside. We must stop thinking in Intellect. When I studied Zen, my teacher said, observe everything in Still Mind, allow the Intuition to flow. The "Great Mind" is not Intellectual. The Pure State of Mind is Mindless. It is, (therefore), it is, and without concept and delusion. When you stop searching for the answer, you will find it. It is standing in front of you, (laughing in hysterical laughter because we cannot see it). The God(s) are Magicians playing tricks with our Minds. I am waiting for a God to appear out of a Magician's hat. Rabbits are too easy. The Great Illusionist. Or, perhaps the Great Delusion hidden behind the Magician's cape. Beware of slight of hand performed by the God(s). Sometimes I can be too philosophical, it will be my downfall. Peace. I hope I have not confused you? RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Spaced - 03-16-2021 If all that assaults the senses is illusion, and the thoughts, images and inner senses are illusion as well, what else is left? RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ymarsakar - 03-16-2021 Replaying the game for fun. This time we'll get to the ending. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - jafar - 03-17-2021 (03-16-2021, 10:20 PM)Spaced Wrote: If all that assaults the senses is illusion, and the thoughts, images and inner senses are illusion as well, what else is left? What is left after you put off the Virtual Reality Headset? The memory / data about having such experience. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Sacred Fool - 03-17-2021 (03-16-2021, 10:20 PM)Spaced Wrote: If all that assaults the senses is illusion, and the thoughts, images and inner senses are illusion as well, what else is left? Within you is the answer to this question. The answer is not a thing to be named, but an intensely inclusive experience of consciousness-as-self. (But you knew that.) RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ohr Ein Sof - 03-17-2021 (03-14-2021, 06:38 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:(03-14-2021, 06:21 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: It was not a stage achieved. More like remembered. The ego mind seeks evidence and data to prove the wuwu works. Therr are ways to produce this proof for the ego. The ego then willingly submits if it truly believes this power is inherited by the human. We need to find a new word to describe lower man besides the word Ego. Even Ra would agree. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ymarsakar - 03-17-2021 The ego is a set of software routines designed to run in this dark matrix simulated reality or VR construct. Thus it can be considered the lower body, the lower dantien, the root solar and sacral chakras. It is the brain operating at the spinal and lower back region. Reflexes, muscle memory, etc etc. Without an ego, one would be pretty much non functional here, like comatose. Carl Jung and Tarot described the ego in the various archetypes. But this info is veiled. The Hero's Journey is a very easy way to understand how the ego tells a story. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ming the Merciful - 03-17-2021 (03-17-2021, 08:38 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: The ego is a set of software routines designed to run in this dark matrix simulated reality or VR construct. The "Awakening" is a "Consciousness Reboot". or a "Consciousness Upgrade". Are the God(s), rebooting Humanity? The God(s) are mysterious Beings. They have become bored with their creation and have grown weary of their company. Bringing Mankind to a higher state of consciousness brings us closer to the Godhead. One day. the God(s) will become old and decrepit and will need to be replaced. Are we not the evolutionary replacement of the God(s)? One day Brahma will need to retire, has he not been here for, (myriads), billions of years? Time is cruel, (even to the God(s)). Even the God(s) cannot overcome time. Beware of false God(s). Or, those God(s) who have not matured enough to rule the Universe. They are the devious kind. I shall go unto the wilderness and create new God(s). RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ming the Merciful - 03-17-2021 (03-17-2021, 12:29 AM)jafar Wrote:(03-16-2021, 10:20 PM)Spaced Wrote: If all that assaults the senses is illusion, and the thoughts, images and inner senses are illusion as well, what else is left? What you are saying, (in other words), is the description in Zen. It is the "I know that I know". An unconscious knowing which cannot be described in Intellectual Mind. Probing is not enough, it is accepting the inevitable. The Void within the Void. The Unseen within the Unseen. A concept of Pure Nothingness. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Brandon Gwinn - 03-17-2021 (03-16-2021, 10:47 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:(03-15-2021, 11:59 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: to me(IMO) zen is a realization of the One spanning the initial practice of living with an intellectual awareness of absolute unity in each moment upon basic enlightenment on to the achievement of final and total reunification and dissolution within the infinite all. The One, IMO, is not a realization, it's just objective reality. i could be wrong, but those are my thoughts. i think what you're talking about is due to the infinite nature of the One. You could say that the source of zen is infinity. and like u said about zen, infinity can't truly be grasped or comprehended by the mind, except that infinity is unity, and unity is the One. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - flofrog - 03-17-2021 (03-17-2021, 04:20 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: and like u said about zen, infinity can't truly be grasped or comprehended by the mind, except that infinity is unity, and unity is the One. Exactly RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Brandon Gwinn - 03-17-2021 i should have said in my first post not an intellectual awareness but an intuitive awareness, or just simple awareness. And not just a realization, but also the experience. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Ming the Merciful - 03-17-2021 (03-17-2021, 04:27 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: i should have said in my first post not an intellectual awareness but an intuitive awareness, or just simple awareness. And not just a realization, but also the experience. Hi Brandon. Basically, we are all trying to crack a walnut with a chainsaw. That which is easy to understand becomes a stumbling block, and we trip over the obvious. The solution, is to simply accept AS IT IS. Mind has delusions of Grandeur in that it must find answers to something it cannot understand. Meanwhile creativity can be seen a Path to the infinite. Delusion and breaking down the component parts. Instead of trying to compare Zen and the ONE as two separate entities, observe them as one in two different guises. There are infinite possibilities from a single entity. The three hundred million aspects of Brahma, (and/or), three hundred million interpretations of the single Brahma. Yet, every interpretation is correct and absolute. Today I destroyed a thousand walnuts, when I should had simply used a nutcracker. The forbidden fruit laid hidden inside and uneaten. I love metaphors. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - Raukura Waihaha - 03-19-2021 (03-16-2021, 10:21 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:Lemuria included NZ and Australia.(03-15-2021, 09:07 PM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: Maori believe that the only perfect thing, is nothing. The dreamtime may have been Lemuria? A time when we were more aware of our connection to source. My elders told me that we were spirits who became more physical, over time. It was a descent into physicality but originally we existed here as spirit complexes. RE: The Enchantment or, (Zen of no Zen) - meadow-foreigner - 03-19-2021 禅 Think about in binary/AC terms (either/or 1 and/or 0); in comparison with quantum/probability/possibility spectrum terms (either/and 1 and/or 0). |