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RE: Does being STO make you a loser in the eyes of this world? How do you cope? - EvolvingPhoenix - 03-04-2020
Well to be fair, well behaved, polite and sensitive are not necessarilly indicators of being STO.
I was those things before I found God, and even for a while after. I was also QUITE the negative person to be around.
Now, I'm more positive, but that doesn't mean I'm alqays gonna be Mr. Rogers about it. If you are, that's cool, but that guy was sincerely a nice dude and I think people can smell that fake s***. Also, he wasn't weak, despite being nice.
Good is not a synonym for weak.
There are people for whome it is, but not entirely. Ultimately though, Earth has not historically been a hippy dippy love in planet. If you want to do good work here, your spine must be quite firm about it. Doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it.
RE: Does being STO make you a loser in the eyes of this world? How do you cope? - rinzler - 03-04-2020
(02-28-2020, 09:07 AM)Bora137 Wrote:Do STS-entities really feel empty? Once the path is fully embraced and chosen I imagine that they must feel satisfaction in domination over others-selves. I believe they are tempted by the raw power that awaits. The path towards that is hatred.(02-21-2020, 03:42 AM)rinzler Wrote: When I look at Jesus life and the lives of other good people during their time they were treated very badly.
I think this is the nature of this world. Resources have to be taken instead of being asked. The beast wins. The strong survive and the weak die. At least until earth becomes uninhabitable for 3D humans.
How do you cope with this? How do you manage not to lose yourself in anger for those who are too ignorant and blind to the truth.
I tend to think the other way round now. I would say it's very hard not to think along your lines when you are under 30 and born into a materially competitive capitalist society. But look at all the people who are super selfish, who display what they have - they just seem to me like completely sad losers. They have rubbish self esteem, if they didn't they wouldn't need a load of 'stuff' to feel like they were 'something'. But then they get all the stuff they wanted and they realise it hasn't made any difference they still feel empty (at this point a lot of them spend a lot of time projecting that they aren't empty and some switch paths and get on the right one). Do Om, your mind will change and what you need to know will come to you. If you are getting angry you need to understand that those people are doing what they can at their density - feel a bit of love for them.
I think it's the feeling of emptiness only for those entities who are confused aka those stuck in the sinkhole of indifference.
Ra once said that 3D-beings are far along the chosen path before realization of that path is conscious.
If we take it reaaaaaally far we might even say that seeing the STS-path as empty is a bias. Just as STS-entities see the positive path as weak and foolish. Then I guess both paths are equal. Which leads me to my next question.
How does one know where one is in terms of spiritual development? Negative or positive?
I must admit myself, I'm constantly between the two
I don't know who I really am. Can anyone help?
RE: Does being STO make you a loser in the eyes of this world? How do you cope? - Moonfox - 03-04-2020
(02-21-2020, 03:42 AM)rinzler Wrote: When I look at Jesus life and the lives of other good people during their time they were treated very badly.
I think this is the nature of this world. Resources have to be taken instead of being asked. The beast wins. The strong survive and the weak die. At least until earth becomes uninhabitable for 3D humans.
How do you cope with this? How do you manage not to lose yourself in anger for those who are too ignorant and blind to the truth.
Oh, my love. Take heart. We are all in this together. I am a daughter of sorrow. I bring up negative issues in order to shed the bright light of the creator for all to see. It's a painful choice. My mind is naturally geared to the negative and I am a picky person. I cannot help this. BUT through this nautural negativity I try to inspire people to be better people. If people do not know what is happening or how or why then they cannot improve. I must improve the world. It is my job.
Please do not hate yourself. Please come into the light and use your given abilities to bring light to the dark, which we both know well.
Love and peace,
RE: Does being STO make you a loser in the eyes of this world? How do you cope? - Black Dragon - 03-04-2020
To the OP: best advice I can give for a lot of issues including this one is to look to your higher self, rather than any other beings or sources of authority. Your higher self is the one higher density being that can and will give you the answers you are looking for and tell you what parts of your own shadow you need to look at, if you make a strong enough connection with it to listen. Once you've made that connection, you can come back to material like this and maybe have a better understanding that comes from within rather than trying to let an outside authority guide you. You can also start to gain a confidence that comes from within rather than an outer authority, and that confidence is less phases about being called "weak" for being STO.
RE: Does being STO make you a loser in the eyes of this world? How do you cope? - EvolvingPhoenix - 03-04-2020
(03-04-2020, 10:18 AM)rinzler Wrote:(02-28-2020, 09:07 AM)Bora137 Wrote:Do STS-entities really feel empty? Once the path is fully embraced and chosen I imagine that they must feel satisfaction in domination over others-selves. I believe they are tempted by the raw power that awaits. The path towards that is hatred.(02-21-2020, 03:42 AM)rinzler Wrote: When I look at Jesus life and the lives of other good people during their time they were treated very badly.
I think this is the nature of this world. Resources have to be taken instead of being asked. The beast wins. The strong survive and the weak die. At least until earth becomes uninhabitable for 3D humans.
How do you cope with this? How do you manage not to lose yourself in anger for those who are too ignorant and blind to the truth.
I tend to think the other way round now. I would say it's very hard not to think along your lines when you are under 30 and born into a materially competitive capitalist society. But look at all the people who are super selfish, who display what they have - they just seem to me like completely sad losers. They have rubbish self esteem, if they didn't they wouldn't need a load of 'stuff' to feel like they were 'something'. But then they get all the stuff they wanted and they realise it hasn't made any difference they still feel empty (at this point a lot of them spend a lot of time projecting that they aren't empty and some switch paths and get on the right one). Do Om, your mind will change and what you need to know will come to you. If you are getting angry you need to understand that those people are doing what they can at their density - feel a bit of love for them.
I think it's the feeling of emptiness only for those entities who are confused aka those stuck in the sinkhole of indifference.
Ra once said that 3D-beings are far along the chosen path before realization of that path is conscious.
If we take it reaaaaaally far we might even say that seeing the STS-path as empty is a bias. Just as STS-entities see the positive path as weak and foolish. Then I guess both paths are equal. Which leads me to my next question.
How does one know where one is in terms of spiritual development? Negative or positive?
I must admit myself, I'm constantly between the two
Look I dunno, but I'm kinda getting the sense lately that it's actually rather simple to figure out:
Are you being truly honest with yourself about yourself and your issues? Are you endeavoring to LOVE that self you see in the mirror when you assess yourself honestly? Not saying you DO, but are you sincerely endeavoring to? If you find yourself behaving negatively and it is brought up to your own awareness, do you (at least internally) take responsibility for it and endeavor to heal it within yourself? Notice I said "heal" not "fix" Important word choice.
Positive seekers focus on healing and loving THEMSELVES first, and then the self perceived in others as a natural by-product.
They do not try to "fix" anything, because they don't entertain the notion s*** is broken. They DO entertain the notion that there is pain, suffering, lack of love, need for love, and need for healing, beginning within and reflected outward. This does not mean they never have any negativity. 51% STO is harvestable after all, yet HARDLY a measure of pure positivity. Hell, even Jesus killed a playmate when he was a kid. So what's that mean? It means it aint the pure positivity that is a sign of STO polarization. It's the approach, attitude, etc.
I get the sense that negative seekers use their egos like drugs to escape the pain that partial clarity full internal resolution causes, and so rely on illusory clarity instead to stave it off, because it's painful and is what you experience before you get enough clarity to reach a point of resolution.
But what the hell do I know? I aint walked their path (to my knowledge. Did I practice black magick in a past life perhaps? Maybe. I know I came into this incarnation with SOME SORT of karma, although, I doubt it was from black magick) so I dunno really. We can all ponder, but few have experience with their whole path to know, it seems.
I suggest you PM some of the more experienced seekers on this site: Reaper, Plenum, Agua, etc. People who've DONE THEIR HOMEWORK AND DONE THEIR INNER-WORK.
Reaper would especially be a good person to ask for advice on that concept, because they've walked both paths and decided on STO, fully rejecting STS, it seems.
I warn you though: Reaper does NOT sugar-coat s***. I only like Reaper's responses because I've reached a point of self honesty that's enough to not even get butthurt by it. Reaper does not sugarcoat it though. So don't expect it to feel good unless you are at a point where simply having useful TRUTHFUL answers is in and of itself relieving.
Agua's very straightforward too, although nicer about it. Neither one will beat around the bush though.
Plenum's a really nice dude, and also someone who has done their homework. So you may also want his input. Still, the most experienced person on the forum regarding walking both paths is Reaper. So they'd be the number 1 choice to ask. Just be ready for brutal honestly if you do.
Basically, STO heals themselves of their pain and trauma, STS seeks to control the projected source of pain/trauma and people who haven't decided yet how they want to deal with that s*** stay in the middle. Unhealed enough to be negative, but not committed to the pursuit of Ego based illusions to be HARVESTABLY negative.
Or maybe the STS suffer just like the fence sitters, but at least have a sense of meaning. I dunno. I'm still working on acceptance of my shadow self. Seems these people project A LOT though: "The One is a tyrant who feeds off of others to feed it's awareness", "The STO are irresponsible and selfish and weak" etc. The STO work to love and accept the stuff they don't like about themselves they see in another-self, whereas STS work to project, disown, separate from and conquer that which they don't like within themselves, so that they no longer have to deal with it.
It seems STO people try to heal s*** and STS people try to "fix" s***.
But then again, I'm no expert on STS. So I could be WAYY off. It's just my uneducated guess. I DO NOT RECOMMEND TAKING IT TOO SERIOUSLY.
Ask somebody who knows. Just don't expect them to be warm or subtle.
Or don't. Whatever. f*** it.
RE: Does being STO make you a loser in the eyes of this world? How do you cope? - flow - 03-05-2020
(03-04-2020, 10:18 AM)rinzler Wrote: ...Do STS-entities really feel empty?rich and "succesful" are not at all necessarily STS beings. for the most parts they are victims of STS beings, who direct this game.
(03-04-2020, 10:18 AM)rinzler Wrote: ...Since the path is fully embraced and chosen I imagine that they must feel satisfaction in domination over others-selves. I believe they are tempted by the raw power that awaits. The path towards that is hatred.i'd say that is correct, at least i feel the same.
I think it's the feeling of emptiness only for those entities who are confused aka those stuck in the sinkhole of indifference.
(03-04-2020, 10:18 AM)rinzler Wrote: How does one know where one is in terms of spiritual development? Negative or positive?
I must admit myself, I'm constantly between the two
STS beings feel they see a glimpse of true nature of things which brings about a sense of meaning and a bigger picture, a wisdom of some sort, just like STO ones do. both STS and STO beings want to share that wisdom with others. but then, if STS being see that others around it are not really responding to their attempts to describe what they see as ultimate truth, in the eyes of STS being they are looked like stupid, ignorant fools who must be subdued to the wisdom of STS being for their own good, since they themselves cannot find a way to awakening. so, beginning STS steps may look like a STO things to the amateur STS being. it is later, by consciously using control and manipulation, it takes taste in power over others and being cunning and wise and became consciously STS.
STO being also wants to help its brothers and sisters to become awaken, but only offers help and try to act upon requests. STO being try to make itself better, so it shines brighter with its open heart and thereby welcome others to address their issues and worries, so it can serve them.