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RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Nau7ik - 11-19-2019
The 6D entity who is STS is at the very beginning of the density. It is here that they realize the fundamental Truth of the One Reality: Unity, i.e. the Law of One. Their extremely wise nature recognizes this truth and then they’re able to switch polarities (don’t ask me how, I don’t know.) I don’t believe they would wander into 3D though. Sixth density is far removed from the lessons of 3D.
I can’t explain, either, the way that STS thinks and reasons. Surely they are aware that the majority of entities are positive, but the STS entity willingly reject cosmic truth which does not serve the self (the heart, compassion, etc.) Maybe they think that they can find a way to carry on the Left Hand Path. The negative mentality here is that they want to become completely independent gods. We can see some of this in the Old Testament with Moloch. I think he was an Orion member; he was worshipped and then demanded human sacrifices.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - EvolvingPhoenix - 11-19-2019
I can't remember WHERE in the LOO material, but in it, Ra explicitly states that VERY VERY rarely, an early 6D negative will choose to incarnate as a wanderer to gain negative polarity, and that this is extremely uncommon. Nonetheless, it happens. And from what I was able to tell, in the INCREDIBLY RARE event of a negative wanderer, it will most likely be early 6D. Like Ra said though: extremely rare.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Jade - 11-19-2019
(11-19-2019, 10:32 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: I can't remember WHERE in the LOO material, but in it, Ra explicitly states that VERY VERY rarely, an early 6D negative will choose to incarnate as a wanderer to gain negative polarity, and that this is extremely uncommon. Nonetheless, it happens. And from what I was able to tell, in the INCREDIBLY RARE event of a negative wanderer, it will most likely be early 6D. Like Ra said though: extremely rare.
Yes, I mentioned this but didn't post the quote.
Quote:36.16 ▶ Questioner: Then the sixth-density entity who has reached that point in positive orientation may choose to become what we call a Wanderer and move back. I am wondering if this ever occurs with a negatively oriented sixth-density entity? Do any move back as Wanderers?
Ra: I am Ra. Once the negatively polarized entity has reached a certain point in the wisdom density it becomes extremely unlikely that it will choose to risk the forgetting, for this polarization is not selfless but selfish and with wisdom realizes the jeopardy of such “wandering.” Occasionally a sixth-density negative entity becomes a Wanderer in an effort to continue to polarize towards the negative. This is extremely unusual.
I don't think a 6th density negative entity will wander to 3D to flip polarities - but this quote makes me think they might do it so that they can accrue some karma and continue a while in the negative playground before making the flip.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - EvolvingPhoenix - 11-19-2019
That makes sense. Thanks for the helpful post, Jade
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Kaaron - 11-19-2019
6D is a state ofbeing.
We are all dimensions...the activation of DNA, enables us to perceive more.
It is all within us.
How would our higher self communicate, if we weren't already wired for 6D?
How does one become balanced, without having experienced -4 through -6D?
They don't.
Since all is one...6D+ SMC would have entities spread across ALL Dimensions.
I am a Ra wanderer...I know I have the potential to become negative.
Who are the negative shadows I saw, until i healed both sides of my family line, back to the one infinite creator?
They were Ra too.
They were the hurt parts, I CAME TO HEAL.
SIRIUS. ORION. DOGON.
Words that should be synonymous with Ra.
This board is too stuck in dualism to see the obvious hard truth.
The truth Ra could never reveal...due to our dualistic nature...that was even heavier, in 1982.
There is a big part of the puzzle, most will never find...cos most of us think because there is 6D balanced Ra, all aspects of us are that.
This is simply not true.
Wanderers are walking proof.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - EvolvingPhoenix - 11-19-2019
(11-19-2019, 01:33 PM)Jade Wrote:(11-19-2019, 10:32 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: I can't remember WHERE in the LOO material, but in it, Ra explicitly states that VERY VERY rarely, an early 6D negative will choose to incarnate as a wanderer to gain negative polarity, and that this is extremely uncommon. Nonetheless, it happens. And from what I was able to tell, in the INCREDIBLY RARE event of a negative wanderer, it will most likely be early 6D. Like Ra said though: extremely rare.
Yes, I mentioned this but didn't post the quote.
Quote:36.16 ▶ Questioner: Then the sixth-density entity who has reached that point in positive orientation may choose to become what we call a Wanderer and move back. I am wondering if this ever occurs with a negatively oriented sixth-density entity? Do any move back as Wanderers?
Ra: I am Ra. Once the negatively polarized entity has reached a certain point in the wisdom density it becomes extremely unlikely that it will choose to risk the forgetting, for this polarization is not selfless but selfish and with wisdom realizes the jeopardy of such “wandering.” Occasionally a sixth-density negative entity becomes a Wanderer in an effort to continue to polarize towards the negative. This is extremely unusual.
I don't think a 6th density negative entity will wander to 3D to flip polarities - but this quote makes me think they might do it so that they can accrue some karma and continue a while in the negative playground before making the flip.
Wait a minute Jade... I just realized; Didn't Ra say that the big fear of a wanderer is to get caught up in the karmic maelstrom? You would think that a 6D negative would be even MORE fearful of it.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Kaaron - 11-19-2019
(11-19-2019, 06:21 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:They lose polarity if they become too STO.(11-19-2019, 01:33 PM)Jade Wrote:(11-19-2019, 10:32 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: I can't remember WHERE in the LOO material, but in it, Ra explicitly states that VERY VERY rarely, an early 6D negative will choose to incarnate as a wanderer to gain negative polarity, and that this is extremely uncommon. Nonetheless, it happens. And from what I was able to tell, in the INCREDIBLY RARE event of a negative wanderer, it will most likely be early 6D. Like Ra said though: extremely rare.
Yes, I mentioned this but didn't post the quote.
Quote:36.16 ▶ Questioner: Then the sixth-density entity who has reached that point in positive orientation may choose to become what we call a Wanderer and move back. I am wondering if this ever occurs with a negatively oriented sixth-density entity? Do any move back as Wanderers?
Ra: I am Ra. Once the negatively polarized entity has reached a certain point in the wisdom density it becomes extremely unlikely that it will choose to risk the forgetting, for this polarization is not selfless but selfish and with wisdom realizes the jeopardy of such “wandering.” Occasionally a sixth-density negative entity becomes a Wanderer in an effort to continue to polarize towards the negative. This is extremely unusual.
I don't think a 6th density negative entity will wander to 3D to flip polarities - but this quote makes me think they might do it so that they can accrue some karma and continue a while in the negative playground before making the flip.
Wait a minute Jade... I just realized; Didn't Ra say that the big fear of a wanderer is to get caught up in the karmic maelstrom? You would think that a 6D negative would be even MORE fearful of it.
So they incarnate as sure fire elite...to have minions.
Then they have more power.
Its not rocket science.
IMO...George Bush jnr was 4D. Senior is most likely 5D.
Both were the front men...for the 6D hidden elite.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Asolsutsesvyl - 11-20-2019
The ideas in my previous post are not good enough as a synthesis. Thanks to those who gathered the material to clarify that. Here's a much simpler take two on 6D STS.
(11-19-2019, 06:21 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Wait a minute Jade... I just realized; Didn't Ra say that the big fear of a wanderer is to get caught up in the karmic maelstrom? You would think that a 6D negative would be even MORE fearful of it.
Maybe not. I think it may be that when the 6th density is entered, a negative entity will perceive itself as invincible, no longer having to worry about forgetting or messing up, because it has developed something which, as it sees it, "guarantees" that the involvement won't end badly for it.
This does not seem to contradict anything. But it reinforces the idea that the 6D STS perspective is truly close to being the opposite of that of 6D STO, until, in 6D, the polarity ultimately changes.
As for the flip, I think that it may be that growing the density of consciousness requires integrating more and more, and this cannot go all the way without giving up separation. But it seems like it can go astonishingly far before it reaches a dead end as far as maintaining separation is concerned.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Kaaron - 11-20-2019
(11-20-2019, 06:07 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: The ideas in my previous post are not good enough as a synthesis. Thanks to those who gathered the material to clarify that. Here's a much simpler take two on 6D STS.
(11-19-2019, 06:21 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: Wait a minute Jade... I just realized; Didn't Ra say that the big fear of a wanderer is to get caught up in the karmic maelstrom? You would think that a 6D negative would be even MORE fearful of it.
Maybe not. I think it may be that when the 6th density is entered, a negative entity will perceive itself as invincible, no longer having to worry about forgetting or messing up, because it has developed something which, as it sees it, "guarantees" that the involvement won't end badly for it.
This does not seem to contradict anything. But it reinforces the idea that the 6D STS perspective is truly close to being the opposite of that of 6D STO, until, in 6D, the polarity ultimately changes.
As for the flip, I think that it may be that growing the density of consciousness requires integrating more and more, and this cannot go all the way without giving up separation. But it seems like it can go astonishingly far before it reaches a dead end as far as maintaining separation is concerned.
This resonates.
I can see them looking up at their 6D Ra self...saying 'nah, I'm not done playing.'
I feel like they won't be done playing...until all the minions rescind their offers of worship.
Then...what is left, but unity?
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Aion - 11-20-2019
Quote:36.16 ▶ Questioner: Then the sixth-density entity who has reached that point in positive orientation may choose to become what we call a Wanderer and move back. I am wondering if this ever occurs with a negatively oriented sixth-density entity? Do any move back as Wanderers?
Ra: I am Ra. Once the negatively polarized entity has reached a certain point in the wisdom density it becomes extremely unlikely that it will choose to risk the forgetting, for this polarization is not selfless but selfish and with wisdom realizes the jeopardy of such “wandering.” Occasionally a sixth-density negative entity becomes a Wanderer in an effort to continue to polarize towards the negative. This is extremely unusual.
Note the Wisdom Density is the Fifth Density.
For those who may have noticed, Yahweh was indeed the entity that tried to help Atlantis and was the one who instilled the knowledge and inspiration towards crystal technology. Crystals had been used before, of course, but not combined with mechanical technology. They also taught the creation of pyramids but in a different form than Ra. This was done to bring about a process of initiation or spiritual ascension to try and gain a greater awareness of Unity. Yahweh did this to try and rectify the damage that had been done on Mars. Their experiments there had resulted in the species obliterating itself in nuclear war. Needless to say, this particular consciousness is both vigorous in its explorations and taking responsibility. Yahweh is actually 'from' Fifth Density, or more correctly understood is the Fifth Density Iteration of a Multi-Density Being, such as we all are. They are known by other names in other densities, having different forms.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Asolsutsesvyl - 11-20-2019
The below part may possibly be the best of what I had before.
(11-19-2019, 02:35 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: I have the idea that in general, 6D wanderers use a specially formed 5D structure as a "body" of sorts, which becomes connected to lower-density incarnations. The reason for this would be that something consisting of a type of structured material is required, and 6D in itself is too "unified", too much like pure living thought, to incarnate without first forming a "container".Regardless, I think the "difference" between the three 6D SMCs is basically which 5D STO origin they had. 6D STO propagates through a kind of "fusion", and I think the meaning of this is that the consciousness merges fully into one, and the being also, when entering 6D STO. The 5D pasts are what make for the distinction between them - and perhaps this is linked to a different focus when reaching back to help.
If this idea is true, then such 5D "containers" could form for either of 6D STO or 6D STS.
(11-19-2019, 03:11 AM)Kaaron Wrote: What do you feel?
What do you know?
When you close your eyes, which part of you scares you most?
If you can't look at these things and feel the love you feel for your child or most precious thought...there is something needing balance.
This kind of stuff is, in my experience, very tricky. The more I learn about myself, and the more I experience, the more I know that I don't have the full picture at this level, and probably cannot get a clear view within the bounds of life at this level.
What I feel? Often, it is mixed, and inner attitudes may be conflicted.
What I know seems to be a multi-level question, where bridging the gap between the mind at this level and at a deeper level is the only way to explore what I actually know at a deeper level. And even then, it can only be explored incompletely.
Sometimes feeling is balanced, and the emotional picture seems complete, but it is rare. Most of the time it is a mess, whether active on the surface or further from it. (Some questions, such as the love of parents for children, are things I can only reason about, as I don't have the experience. I've lived mostly in my mind and through nerdy hobbies.)
Whether eyes are open or closed, it's much the same. Sometimes I fear being some kind of monster, and above all, I've been worried about hurting others, regardless of intentions or actions, when doing pretty much anything. That's an emotional baggage that strengthened rapidly in my time with the Cassiopaea community. Part of me is past all of it, and part of me isn't.
(11-19-2019, 03:11 AM)Kaaron Wrote: Why label parts, of what is all ONE.
As for the rest, I'll focus on only this. It seems useful to develop a functional model at this level. That's something Ra seems to agree on, as otherwise, there would not be a point to a structured presentation; had it been otherwise, then it would have been enough to have a single session saying, "All is One", followed by a friendly good-bye.
But it is important to keep whatever the model is, clean and positively functional. That seems to be a very difficult form of art, and/or craft. Perhaps 6D STO is unique in its ability to say the most without messing it up for the audience, and this is the reason 4D STO and 5D STO say much less, even though far beyond the consciousness of 3D humanity.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Kaaron - 11-21-2019
(11-20-2019, 08:10 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: The below part may possibly be the best of what I had before.I feel like you can have whichever view you choose from this level. That's the point of learning to graduate 3D.
(11-19-2019, 02:35 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: I have the idea that in general, 6D wanderers use a specially formed 5D structure as a "body" of sorts, which becomes connected to lower-density incarnations. The reason for this would be that something consisting of a type of structured material is required, and 6D in itself is too "unified", too much like pure living thought, to incarnate without first forming a "container".Regardless, I think the "difference" between the three 6D SMCs is basically which 5D STO origin they had. 6D STO propagates through a kind of "fusion", and I think the meaning of this is that the consciousness merges fully into one, and the being also, when entering 6D STO. The 5D pasts are what make for the distinction between them - and perhaps this is linked to a different focus when reaching back to help.
If this idea is true, then such 5D "containers" could form for either of 6D STO or 6D STS.
(11-19-2019, 03:11 AM)Kaaron Wrote: What do you feel?
What do you know?
When you close your eyes, which part of you scares you most?
If you can't look at these things and feel the love you feel for your child or most precious thought...there is something needing balance.
This kind of stuff is, in my experience, very tricky. The more I learn about myself, and the more I experience, the more I know that I don't have the full picture at this level, and probably cannot get a clear view within the bounds of life at this level.
What I feel? Often, it is mixed, and inner attitudes may be conflicted.
What I know seems to be a multi-level question, where bridging the gap between the mind at this level and at a deeper level is the only way to explore what I actually know at a deeper level. And even then, it can only be explored incompletely.
Sometimes feeling is balanced, and the emotional picture seems complete, but it is rare. Most of the time it is a mess, whether active on the surface or further from it. (Some questions, such as the love of parents for children, are things I can only reason about, as I don't have the experience. I've lived mostly in my mind and through nerdy hobbies.)
Whether eyes are open or closed, it's much the same. Sometimes I fear being some kind of monster, and above all, I've been worried about hurting others, regardless of intentions or actions, when doing pretty much anything. That's an emotional baggage that strengthened rapidly in my time with the Cassiopaea community. Part of me is past all of it, and part of me isn't.
(11-19-2019, 03:11 AM)Kaaron Wrote: Why label parts, of what is all ONE.
As for the rest, I'll focus on only this. It seems useful to develop a functional model at this level. That's something Ra seems to agree on, as otherwise, there would not be a point to a structured presentation; had it been otherwise, then it would have been enough to have a single session saying, "All is One", followed by a friendly good-bye.
But it is important to keep whatever the model is, clean and positively functional. That seems to be a very difficult form of art, and/or craft. Perhaps 6D STO is unique in its ability to say the most without messing it up for the audience, and this is the reason 4D STO and 5D STO say much less, even though far beyond the consciousness of 3D humanity.
I am Ra.
I am also Kaaron.
There are other aspects I could label but they are the parts that communicate with this vessel.
How the message is passed on, is nearly always a function of catalyst for the recipient. Some require a more direct response.
Sometimes I'm just tired cos I've been doing this work for 10 days straight n need a rest.
There is no need for concern.
I assure you...I've been down up left right in out n back around again.
Whatever delusion you may or may not think I could be in for...I did that in 2004-2012.
This is just catalyst for some who may need a kick start.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Asolsutsesvyl - 11-21-2019
The following is, rationally seen, guesswork. But peculiar communication, which seems to be directed at a different level, can only be responded to with something similar.
It may be bad to leave another part of the faulty synthesis I wrote uncorrected, because doing so may mask something real. So, with changes:
(11-19-2019, 02:35 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: I'm reminded of the old idea that "Light through darkness is Christ. Light on top of darkness is Antichrist." [Higher-D STO] as something living which shines through darkness, while [Higher-D STS, with wisdom] is like a gleaming surface of light on top of [a] blackness (which may or may not be hidden from view, like a black hole).
This matches the very abstract "visions" I have sometimes had, e.g. while reading the books of Karla Turner (about 4D STS and their activities), much recommended. The realities of the beings described appeared as being curiously curved, and its structures and "matter" bright on the surface, with something dark and almost "burning" underneath. Almost painful to "look" at.
The old esoteric idea I quoted made sense in a very straightforward way. And to reinterpret it as having only to do with 6D STS may be a confusion of levels similar to this:
(11-19-2019, 08:42 PM)Kaaron Wrote: IMO...George Bush jnr was 4D. Senior is most likely 5D.
Both were the front men...for the 6D hidden elite.
I think the higher-D masters in such cases are 4D STS, and they may or may not have more direct ties to the 3D people. (The most obvious direct ties in politics occurred with the Nazis and their occult inner circle. In the modern world, it seems less blatant, and such "contact" may occur within other, less overtly visible circles of power.) The older Bush had a mind and drive of his own, while the younger Bush seems like an intellectually and emotionally stunted puppet used by more clever people who wrote the scripts for him.
In general, the 3D drama seems to be mainly connected to 4D drama. With STO-oriented groups, it is much easier for above-4 densities to be involved in a more direct way with 3D people. (But in circles where 4D STS contact is overt, 5D STS may also reach the "inner planes" of the participants, and through this, come to take a more centrally influential role.)
Continuing the guesswork (why not go all the way?):
(11-18-2019, 11:53 PM)Kaaron Wrote: Seeing as we're throwing random opinions around...I'd go as far as to say there are 49% positive wanderers and 5% negative wanderers incarnate, presently.
The symbolic placeholder numbers are funny. I've noticed a symbolic pattern - accurate or not - which ties "48" to "94" and "49" to "81". As in, the bad outcome of 1984 was reversed in 1994, and the bad outcome of 1994 was reversed in 1981. (Ra contact, 1981-1984; Cassiopaean contact, 1994-????.) If true, it would be an example of how higher-density dynamics can be "loopy". Or the ideas may be silly.
To add more, silly or not, an early idea from the Cassiopaean contact is that "94%" of people will be used by 4D STS for "total consumption", "6%" being left out. (Laura's idea is that the "6%" are psychopaths.) Maybe it does not refer to the larger world, but instead, to a smaller world within it. The percentages may also be purely symbolic. And it remains to be seen what actually happens. (Various of Ra's percentages could also be symbolic, as a way to squeeze in extra information at the cost of statistics without real practical use to 3D readers.)
The guesswork may or may not turn out useful.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Green_One - 11-26-2019
I'll stick with it being the Annunaki /Quetzalcoatl that came to South America...
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Green_One - 11-26-2019
(11-19-2019, 03:11 AM)Kaaron Wrote:(11-19-2019, 02:35 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: Why do you think Ra are so vested in this?
They are both the elite, and the ones helping the parts of them who wander.
They are the STO 6D...the STS...are THEM/US TOO!
SURPRISE MUTHFUCKAZ...love you.
WE ARE ALL ONE.
I AM Ra
ADONAI
HA HAAAAAAA
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RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Kaaron - 11-27-2019
(11-26-2019, 08:32 PM)Green_One Wrote:Life...(11-19-2019, 03:11 AM)Kaaron Wrote:(11-19-2019, 02:35 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: Why do you think Ra are so vested in this?
They are both the elite, and the ones helping the parts of them who wander.
They are the STO 6D...the STS...are THEM/US TOO!
SURPRISE MUTHFUCKAZ...love you.
WE ARE ALL ONE.
I AM Ra
ADONAI
HA HAAAAAAA
I find this sh!t hilarious...and upsetting, at the same time.
My logical mind is dumbfounded.
My heart is hurting at the subjective pain.
My balance sees it as the springboard.
It all feels a little narcissistic, on the creators behalf tbh.
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Asolsutsesvyl - 11-29-2019
To add something different on the topic of the 3 6D SMCs...
I've wondered, why "666" as the biblical number of evil? Going by the idea that parts of the Bible are blatant Orion STS propaganda, it seems to make sense, in the following way: "Those 3 6D groups are still with humanity, and there's a veritable 'legion' of 6D wanderers in the world. What to do? Let's make '666' a widespread theme of evil..."
RE: Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be? - Kaaron - 11-29-2019
(11-29-2019, 01:45 AM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote: To add something different on the topic of the 3 6D SMCs...It could be the fact that they stay in 6D- forever...until they switch to STO.
I've wondered, why "666" as the biblical number of evil? Going by the idea that parts of the Bible are blatant Orion STS propaganda, it seems to make sense, in the following way: "Those 3 6D groups are still with humanity, and there's a veritable 'legion' of 6D wanderers in the world. What to do? Let's make '666' a widespread theme of evil..."
Like 6 recurring.