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RE: Pursuing the STS path - Sacred Fool - 09-01-2018
Technically speaking, yes, it is a choice, just we could all, theoretically, choose to become astronauts, right? But, in reality, very few are cut out for that kind of work, and even fewer will be successful. That kind of laser-like commitment to efficiency is becoming of only an extreme personality type. The remainder of us, alas, are thus condemned to sto if we desire to progress, spiritually speaking. On the other hand, by way of compensation, the less severe path happens to also be the more encompassingly beautiful one.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Aion - 09-02-2018
Forget about paths, focus on your life. Forget about trying to be one thing or another, just do what feels natural. Just be you.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - loostudent - 09-03-2018
I think it's good to discover and know your inner self and destiny. It's not just the chosen general path. You can flourish on this path only if you also find the unique service/purpose that is authentic expression of your beingness - a healer, a worker, a teacher etc.
Quote:... the best way for each seeker in third density to be of service to others is unique to that mind/body/spirit complex. This means that the mind/body/spirit complex must then seek within itself the intelligence of its own discernment as to the way it may best serve other-selves. This will be different for each. There is no best. There is no generalization. Nothing is known. (Ra)
RE: Pursuing the STS path - AnthroHeart - 09-03-2018
The only time I thought I had to follow the negative path was when I thought I was going to be harvested negative.
And that being positive in negative 4D would leave me vulnerable. But I never really practiced it.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Zach - 09-03-2018
I just want to say I feel like I get where your coming from (to whatever degree) and I’m sorry things have been so hard for you. These are especially trying times.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Zach - 09-04-2018
I just wanted to add this as a general statement about (my view of) the reality of the Negative Path (STS), since its come up sometimes in the past also:
There is a lot more pain and struggle on the negative (STS) path in the long run than there is the positive path (STO)..
Its long. (probably much, much longer than the positive path)
In those densities there are:
no more positive guides to look out for you, they simply can't reach you in that density of Creation.
no Loving Mother or Father....no Brother or Sister or close Friend- no one you can rest in or trust with the Heart.
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Even if you are a part of a "chosen line" your disposable at any minute if you decide to go against the will of the Hive.
no *real* friends, friends you can trust because they *care* about you...none of that. bye bye loving relationships (pretty much).
....and from that level...your dealing with (sts) "gods", not "God" (STO). its a compassionless realm because of the negative gravity. (it isn't like ordering a cheeseburger)
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I think what we see on Earth a lot is those (who are atleast attempting and/or) just beginning to work with or for negative powers- for the gain in this life. To them its nothing and your just a pawn in their chess game. Its like a few tens of thousand upfront for a long term debt with sky high interest rates (and even that is a watered down metaphor). But for everything given and agreed too (with the neg entities) there is a cost. Those entities on Earth that seem lofty in this life for the trade they made- pay thier dues (in a neg sense) beyond this life- in that density of being. So it looks like its all fun and lofty from this end. But what about 1000 years in? This human incarnation often doesn't go beyond 100 years.
In the neg realms you can be an imprisoned slave for thousands and thousands of years.
The STS attitude to my understanding is from the roots of beingness. Its not something you easily just switch to. Its your whole life. its who you are. lots of hatred, anger and pain and struggle with limited yet extremely intense bursts of pleasure *regarding power* (atleast until you climb to the top, which could take millions of years I imagine). But in that way it helps the entity become MORE negative. Because there is absolutely no positive hope anymore. (in a more local sense).
It seems as time wears on the negative entities they eventually find their way to the top of the pecking order....probably after hundreds of thousands of years. And if we are talking 5d - then I imagine millions and millions of years.
Its a pain/pleasure duality as I see it (not to discount negative wisdom, which is also primary) . With a lot more pain than pleasure. I'm sure the pleasure is intense in a negative way. But its still *never* loving, *never* compassionate.
Its truly only a place for those who are absolutely (what we would call) "evil". As much as I don't like that word. But it really paints the picture for STS (imo) better than "STS". Which sounds so clean and simple.
In other words: Its complete s*** from this perspective.
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Don't mean to spread bad vibes. Just trying to share my perspective on the severity of consequences in seeking that path. Its no light thing or fleeting moment.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - GentleReckoning - 09-04-2018
That's a pretty negative take on the negative there zach.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Patrick - 09-04-2018
(09-04-2018, 06:41 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: That's a pretty negative take on the negative there zach.
I wonder what a negative take on the positive path would look like.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Sacred Fool - 09-04-2018
(09-04-2018, 08:42 PM)Patrick Wrote:(09-04-2018, 06:41 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: That's a pretty negative take on the negative there zach.
I wonder what a negative take on the positive path would look like.
Boring. Simpy. Basically, it’s the path for slackers, not for the muscular and heroically oriented.
And that’s all true (in its own way)........but, there’s more...............
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Stranger - 09-04-2018
(09-04-2018, 12:38 AM)Zach Wrote: In other words: Its complete s*** from this perspective.
It's a very nice description of what it must be like to live in a world consisting entirely of what we would call psychopaths: people who are only seeing you as an object of use or hindrance to them, with no care for your wishes or feelings except to the extent that these can be used to manipulate you.
It's worth noting that STS is a path literally no soul would choose, if it were not thoroughly confused and misguided by the veil.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - GentleReckoning - 09-05-2018
(09-04-2018, 08:42 PM)Patrick Wrote:(09-04-2018, 06:41 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: That's a pretty negative take on the negative there zach.
I wonder what a negative take on the positive path would look like.
I'm glad you asked. Not impacting society in a significantly positive way while greed and gluttony make people less and less aware. Causing the ozone to die, technology to be rapidly created and deployed at a rate that rips parents from their children. (due to fear caused by marketing, war etc.) Trash flowing down rivers in Africa. On and on. Comforting everyone and saying everything will be ok.
Basically, the positive is propagating and supporting the status Quo. (Har har)
The negative is willingness to move beyond the realms of society. (Ra)
There is wisdom and danger in both poles, as you could imagine. That of complacency, and then that of rashness and the void.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-05-2018
(09-05-2018, 02:52 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote:(09-04-2018, 08:42 PM)Patrick Wrote:(09-04-2018, 06:41 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: That's a pretty negative take on the negative there zach.
I wonder what a negative take on the positive path would look like.
I'm glad you asked. Not impacting society in a significantly positive way while greed and gluttony make people less and less aware. Causing the ozone to die, technology to be rapidly created and deployed at a rate that rips parents from their children. (due to fear caused by marketing, war etc.) Trash flowing down rivers in Africa. On and on. Comforting everyone and saying everything will be ok.
Basically, the positive is propagating and supporting the status Quo. (Har har)
The negative is willingness to move beyond the realms of society. (Ra)
There is wisdom and danger in both poles, as you could imagine. That of complacency, and then that of rashness and the void.
And your positive take on the negative path?
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Patrick - 09-05-2018
(09-04-2018, 10:44 PM)Stranger Wrote: ...
It's worth noting that STS is a path literally no soul would choose, if it were not thoroughly confused and misguided by the veil.
What I find astounding is that they continue on their path even after the veil is lifted in 4d and 5d. The confusion acquired in 3d must reach very deep within the root of the tree of mind.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Patrick - 09-05-2018
(09-05-2018, 02:52 AM)GentleReckoning Wrote: ...Not impacting society in a significantly positive way while greed and gluttony make people less and less aware... (emphasis mine)
I don't think I understand what role gluttony has in this ?
RE: Pursuing the STS path - GentleReckoning - 09-05-2018
Due to the high amount of catalyst, and no ability to process that catalyst, the body communicates that by over-indulging in all aspects of life. i.e. Weight gain, materialism, and all distractions to avoid the overloaded and unkempt crown.
Positive take on the negative? Willing to see a problem, goal or dream, through to fruition. Against all odds, haters, and society. Obviously.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - GentleReckoning - 09-05-2018
Positive on the positive is of course, the bliss, ease, and process of manifestation. The ability to sit back, watch, smile, and enjoy the parade.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-05-2018
(09-05-2018, 08:49 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Due to the high amount of catalyst, and no ability to process that catalyst, the body communicates that by over-indulging in all aspects of life. i.e. Weight gain, materialism, and all distractions to avoid the overloaded and unkempt crown.
Positive take on the negative? Willing to see a problem, goal or dream, through to fruition. Against all odds, haters, and society. Obviously.
And positives don't do that?
I guess the positive path is about letting go of struggle then?
It seems like I've been (ironically) struggling with that myself... on one hand, I feel like letting go of struggle as a part of my forward development, yet it is kind of the thing for people to derive their meaning from struggle...
RE: Pursuing the STS path - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-05-2018
(09-05-2018, 08:49 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Due to the high amount of catalyst, and no ability to process that catalyst, the body communicates that by over-indulging in all aspects of life. i.e. Weight gain, materialism, and all distractions to avoid the overloaded and unkempt crown.
Do you have any advice on this, Gentle? Cause I'm kind of dealing with it.
Especially lately. I think my constant use of weed to work through my problems may have turned getting high ainto a stressful endeavor...
RE: Pursuing the STS path - GentleReckoning - 09-05-2018
Hahaha. I do that with weed too.
Just meditate, go for walks.
Marijuanna breathes spiritual gravity. Spirit in, Spirit out. During those two breaths, you can inhale more catalyst than people do in months. (kind of why I like it, lifting weights for the soul)
RE: Pursuing the STS path - ada - 09-05-2018
(09-05-2018, 09:54 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Hahaha. I do that with weed too.
Just meditate, go for walks.
Marijuanna breathes spiritual gravity. Spirit in, Spirit out. During those two breaths, you can inhale more catalyst than people do in months. (kind of why I like it, lifting weights for the soul)
Do you get bad experiences or bad trips from Marijuana? And if so, is that also what you mean by 'more catalyst'?
I sometimes get such occurences, and the only lesson I think I get is that I shouldn't have smoked in the first place. But then when I'm better I crave to smoke again to understand why I felt the way I felt in that bad experience. It's like an ongoing loop.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Stranger - 09-06-2018
(09-05-2018, 08:28 PM)Patrick Wrote:(09-04-2018, 10:44 PM)Stranger Wrote: ...
It's worth noting that STS is a path literally no soul would choose, if it were not thoroughly confused and misguided by the veil.
What I find astounding is that they continue on their path even after the veil is lifted in 4d and 5d. The confusion acquired in 3d must reach very deep within the root of the tree of mind.
I don't think it's confusion at that point. It's part inertia and part survival. Survival, because once you're in 4D negative, it must be nearly impossible to attempt polarizing positively - try to be kind or loving and you'll be eaten alive, figuratively or maybe even literally.
Intertia, because by the time of 4D- graduation the entity's experience is so far removed from the joys of loving and being loved, and it is so focused on the joys of winning power over others, that the idea of becoming a "meek and mild" STO must seem contemptible.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-06-2018
(09-05-2018, 09:54 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Hahaha. I do that with weed too.
Just meditate, go for walks.
Marijuanna breathes spiritual gravity. Spirit in, Spirit out. During those two breaths, you can inhale more catalyst than people do in months. (kind of why I like it, lifting weights for the soul)
Cool way to see it. I shall do just that. I'm kind of dealing with a pretty stressful episode right now.
Maybe I should go easy on the pot for a bit? Take a tolerance break and maybe give myself some space to handle what's already on my plate?
That might be a good idea.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - Glow - 09-06-2018
(09-05-2018, 08:49 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Due to the high amount of catalyst, and no ability to process that catalyst, the body communicates that by over-indulging in all aspects of life. i.e. Weight gain, materialism, and all distractions to avoid the overloaded and unkempt crown.
Positive take on the negative? Willing to see a problem, goal or dream, through to fruition. Against all odds, haters, and society. Obviously.
First I think the greed/gluttony is mostly for the undecided/unpolarized and it slips it hold as you polarize positive further.
Still its a struggle to get free for sure.
Second. the sts you describe reminds me a lot of the law of attraction stuff I have seen. I am not saying they promote sts but they perhaps facilitate people having knowledge to step further into the non polarized or polarized sts.
I am sure the info is/could also be used sto but most video clips anyways the questions are aimed at what you describe getting exactly what you want money/sex/fame/desire/the dream/goal.
I'm kind of curious what that source(Abraham) is.
RE: Pursuing the STS path - GentleReckoning - 09-06-2018
(09-05-2018, 10:11 PM)blossom Wrote:(09-05-2018, 09:54 PM)GentleReckoning Wrote: Hahaha. I do that with weed too.
Just meditate, go for walks.
Marijuanna breathes spiritual gravity. Spirit in, Spirit out. During those two breaths, you can inhale more catalyst than people do in months. (kind of why I like it, lifting weights for the soul)
Do you get bad experiences or bad trips from Marijuana? And if so, is that also what you mean by 'more catalyst'?
I sometimes get such occurences, and the only lesson I think I get is that I shouldn't have smoked in the first place. But then when I'm better I crave to smoke again to understand why I felt the way I felt in that bad experience. It's like an ongoing loop.
First you balance yourself, then everyone else. Then the earth, and the solar system. Then you start balancing heaven, the evolution of humanity, the path that all of reality takes. Alternate timelines. You grow at a pace that essentially outdistances all of your positive karma.
This is why it's necessary to balance the self completely and work through emotional pain and agony. As it is the greatest service to receive goodness from others, and this breaks that (essentially divine) connection.