(11-27-2009, 05:13 AM)Ashim Wrote: The Group Soul Lucifer has been directing the Polarity Game here since before history. This is their sacrifice to us, because they love us all so much and wish to see us advance to full consciousness and our place in the Galactic Federation.

(11-28-2009, 06:57 AM)transiten Wrote: Hello Ashim and All

I don't like "playing games", not in a love relationship nor with the Uiverse. You see, i've learned THE HARD way to detect the "Devil in disguise" and there can be endless turns and manipulations.
You know a knife can be used for peeling apples or stab someones back.

Go to http://homoveritas.net/blog/. or just google hidden_hand and read the first link. I've got mars conjunct pluto in transit today which can swing By the way either try to exert control over others or others trying to control you. Also it can reflect one's ability to profoundly change anything one comes in contact with, material/relationshipwise or spiritually.

I might be wrong and i'm willing to change my mind but i follow my gutfeeling nowadays.
What about you?

transiten

(11-28-2009, 06:57 AM)transiten Wrote: Hello Ashim and All

I don't like "playing games", not in a love relationship nor with the Uiverse. You see, i've learned THE HARD way to detect the "Devil in disguise" and there can be endless turns and manipulations.
You know a knife can be used for peeling apples or stab someones back.

Go to http://homoveritas.net/blog/. or just google hidden_hand and read the first link. I've got mars conjunct pluto in transit today which can swing By the way either try to exert control over others or others trying to control you. Also it can reflect one's ability to profoundly change anything one comes in contact with, material/relationshipwise or spiritually.

I might be wrong and i'm willing to change my mind but i follow my gutfeeling nowadays.
What about you?

transiten

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(11-28-2009, 06:57 AM)transiten Wrote: Hello Ashim and All

I don't like "playing games", not in a love relationship nor with the Uiverse. You see, i've learned THE HARD way to detect the "Devil in disguise" and there can be endless turns and manipulations.
You know a knife can be used for peeling apples or stab someones back.

Go to http://homoveritas.net/blog/. or just google hidden_hand and read the first link. I've got mars conjunct pluto in transit today which can swing By the way either try to exert control over others or others trying to control you. Also it can reflect one's ability to profoundly change anything one comes in contact with, material/relationshipwise or spiritually.

I might be wrong and i'm willing to change my mind but i follow my gutfeeling nowadays.
What about you?

transiten

OK i can't shorten "between" to By the way because then it will turn up as "By the way" Happened in another post also...now i see why..

(11-28-2009, 10:03 AM)Ashim Wrote: It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance transiten.
Your post reveals much anguish that you must be experiencing at this moment. You are indeed a beautiful eternal Soul and are on the path to finding your true Self and discovering your wonderful mission here on the planet we call Earth.
You are at the point of polarizing and thus opening your energetic shield for upper Chakra work.
You are loved so much that words do not suffice to even superficially describe the Love/Light you receive from our Infinite Creator.
Open your heart to the world, make a conscious effort to be of Service to Others. Rejoice in the beauty of the Creation. Start to develop Compassion as this is the key to the goal of this Density.
Go to a place where you can be alone and undisturbed. Bless this place. Ask your Higher Self for guidance. Listen. Focus on the heart Chakra centre and send Love in the form of Light to the world. Allow the Love/light to flow through your body.
Stop trying to be RIGHT.
Try to see the shining and perfect Soul of those around you. Do not condemn their behaviour, for this is not the behaviour of the Soul, but only of the person not yet fully aware. Reflect on the fact that you have agreed during this incarnation to try to learn several Lessons. The events of your “life” are designed to confront you with this Catalyst. The lessons of yet unlearnt will bombard you with situation upon situation giving you opportunity to move forward.
Ask youself why exactly you are here on this forum at this moment.
Be blessed by the Light and Love of our Infinite Creator.

Adonai

(11-28-2009, 04:42 AM)Ashim Wrote: Hi Peregrine, thanks for the welcome.

Here is a quote from one of the LOO sessions.

“There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment and also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.”

Indeed the Polarity Game is the blueprint not only for this paradigm but for this entire Universe. You could say that we are all playing, whether conscious of the fact or not.

The Group Soul Lucifer is NOT a negative entity as at the level of 6th Density there is no Polarity in the sense of positive / negative. Lucifer are at the same stage of development as Ra and like Ra have chosen to be of Service to their brothers and sisters in the One. I suggest the reading of the Hidden_Hand material already mentioned in this thread.

Allow your Higher Self to resonate to this information.
Love & Light.

Adonai

(11-28-2009, 12:57 PM)litllady Wrote: The HH material claims to be of negative polarity, a soul group (Lucifer), and claims to be of 6th density. I dont think this merges well some of the things the LOO speaks about.

The LOO never says Lucifer is a soul group, nor ever mentions that its a 6th density soul group (same as Ra) no less.

Ra talks about before 6th density, negative polarity will be abandoned before convergence with this density. So I think we need to be careful in making assumptions.

(11-28-2009, 12:57 PM)litllady Wrote: Mods-just stick me back in line if I get out of place too much! (and please correct me where I go wrong)

(11-28-2009, 01:24 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: I believe it is during the sixth density that sts entities switch polarity when they must abandon the way of sts. Prior to this abandonment, they are still sixth density sts.

(11-28-2009, 01:24 PM)Peregrinus Wrote:

(11-28-2009, 12:57 PM)litllady Wrote: The HH material claims to be of negative polarity, a soul group (Lucifer), and claims to be of 6th density. I dont think this merges well some of the things the LOO speaks about.

The LOO never says Lucifer is a soul group, nor ever mentions that its a 6th density soul group (same as Ra) no less.

Ra talks about before 6th density, negative polarity will be abandoned before convergence with this density. So I think we need to be careful in making assumptions.

I can't find the question to be able to quote it, but I believe this is incorrect. I believe it is during the sixth density that sts entities switch polarity when they must abandon the way of sts. Prior to this abandonment, they are still sixth density sts.

I may be wrong though. Anyone?

Quote:78.24 Questioner: Then you are saying that as a result of the polarization in consciousness which has occurred later in the galactic evolution, the experiences are much more intense along the two paths. Are these experiences each independent of the other? Must there be action across the potentiated difference between the positive and negative polarity, or is it possible to have this experience simply because of the single polarity? This is difficult to ask.

Ra: I am Ra. We would agree. We shall attempt to pluck the gist of your query from the surrounding verbiage.

The fourth and fifth densities are quite independent, the positive polarity functioning with no need of negative and visa-versa. It is to be noted that in attempting to sway third-density mind/body/spirit complexes in choosing polarity there evolves a good bit of interaction between the two polarities. In sixth density, the density of unity, the positive and negative paths must needs take in each other for all now must be seen as love/light and light/love. This is not difficult for the positive polarity which sends love and light to all other-selves. It is difficult enough for service-to-self polarized entities that at some point the negative polarity is abandoned.

(11-28-2009, 04:42 AM)Ashim Wrote: The Group Soul Lucifer is NOT a negative entity as at the level of 6th Density there is no Polarity in the sense of positive / negative. Lucifer are at the same stage of development as Ra and like Ra have chosen to be of Service to their brothers and sisters in the One. I suggest the reading of the Hidden_Hand material already mentioned in this thread.

(11-28-2009, 02:03 PM)Ashim Wrote: Hi litllady,
I think it wise to understand that the Ra chanellings are not 100% accurate.
For further debate:

" I am Ra. There are no negative beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality, of late sixth-density as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth-density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive."

If you look carefully you can see the work of Lucifer, for it permeates your day-to-day life: be thankful for their sacrifice to us and begin to develop compassion for their Family, for this is the precursor to healing on a planetary scale.

Yes, we have been fooled, but try to see through the veil and get a glipse of the "big picture".
I am not posting on this forum to "preach" or to patronize, nothing could be more detached from the truth.

Rejoice in the glory of the Creation.
Adonai

(11-28-2009, 02:03 PM)Ashim Wrote: I think it wise to understand that the Ra chanellings are not 100% accurate.

(11-28-2009, 02:03 PM)Ashim Wrote: For further debate:

" I am Ra. There are no negative beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality, of late sixth-density as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth-density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive."

(11-28-2009, 02:03 PM)Ashim Wrote: If you look carefully you can see the work of Lucifer, for it permeates your day-to-day life: be thankful for their sacrifice to us and begin to develop compassion for their Family, for this is the precursor to healing on a planetary scale.

(11-28-2009, 02:37 PM)litllady Wrote: I dont see negative polarity being negative for its other selves...out of love for its other selves. Even though the negative polarity offers us catalysts in that we can embrace and learn from...the negative polarity does not do this out of love for its other selves, but for the love of the self.

We can see that they are playing a role in the bigger picture...but I dont think the negative polarity thinks it is helping the positive polarity any. I do think though....the negative polarity will see one day just what a big part in it all it has, unknowingly. I just dont see a negative polarity being negative out of love for others.

Quote:36.12 Questioner: Let me take as an example the one that you said was called Himmler. We are assuming from this that his Higher Self was of the sixth-density and it was stated that Himmler had selected the negative path. Would his Higher Self then dwell in a sixth-density negative type of situation? Can you expand on this concept?

Ra: I am Ra. There are no negative beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality, of late sixth-density as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth-density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive.

Therefore, the Oversoul which makes its understanding available to all who are ready for such aid is towards the positive. However, the free will of the individual is paramount, and any guidance given by the Higher Self may be seen in either the positive or negative polarity depending upon the choice of a mind/body/spirit complex.

(11-29-2009, 06:02 PM)Ashim Wrote: The whistleblower "Svali" made public many details of Family life in the "Illuminati" - this may be of interest to you.

(11-29-2009, 06:02 PM)Ashim Wrote: The goal of this Density is Love and it is through Compassion that we receive the keys. I am not promoting the agenda of Negative entities as suggested in prior posts but am simply providing an opportunity for discussion - and thus perhaps the chance for learning and growing towards Oneness.

(11-28-2009, 02:45 PM)Ashim Wrote: Love and Light to all.
Just a brief posting as family matters are pressing.
There is knowledge that has been kept from us. This is knowledge that we know to be true as it resonates with our very being. Past civilizations have had access to this “esoteric” technology, only after time to have it made exclusively available to the elite. The group soul Lucifer was indeed behind these workings. It would be a breach of the Law of Confusion to explain in a more detailed fashion the actual workings of these “technologies”, for those who seek must first ask. Many of you have had dreams or visions pertaining to your respective missions whilst incarnate here on Earth. Now is the time to awake to the fact that we all are multi-dimensional beings of Light, on the quest for reunion with the One.
Here are a few keywords for those of an inquisitive nature.
Google:

Keys to Compassion
Crystal Grids
DNA recoding

Namaste