(05-01-2018, 12:21 AM)Louisabell Wrote:

(04-30-2018, 11:29 PM)xise Wrote: But perhaps it's par for the course. After all, Hatton went 4D positive after their 3D society basically reduced their civilization to rubble with a worldwide war, to paraphrase the l/l channeling on the subject, and Hatton specifically states it was because of the interaction of survival fears versus just letting go of those survival fears in order to fully embrace others and share the very limited resources so that more can survive. Maybe there's much more to this red ray issues springboarding into strong polarization than we realize.

That is interesting, I did not know this about Hatton. Ra also had a difficult existence when in 3D.

Quote:Sunday Meditation

November 16, 1980
(Unknown channeling)
Tonight we have been successful in contacting a new instrument and we are pleased that he was going to step out on his faith. We of Hatonn are willing to adjust our being if it is difficult to discern for this instrument. We will pause for this purpose. I am Hatonn.
(Pause)

I am Hatonn, and I am again with you. We have adjusted our being and we feel that we are more closely aligned with this instrument. At this time, we would like to share with you a story of our past.
At one time, we of Hatonn were a warlike nation in that, although united as one planet, we were divided into many sects that strove to dominate or control the planet. We chose to combat one another in our efforts to achieve this control, however, none were able to dominate and all were weakened by the struggle. Finally a point was reached in which we of Hatonn were destitute. We had destroyed all of the resources that our planet had to offer and were unable to kill one another simply because we no longer possessed the raw materials from which to construct further weaponry. At this point, we had also destroyed our food chain and were near starvation. In many ways we were, at that time, very similar to you as your planet is today, fixed upon oblivion.

We discovered that our survival as a priority superseded all other priorities and that the requirements for survival became very obvious: regard each man or woman as one’s own brother and share with that brother as you would with your wife or husband or child. Our decimation became, in this manner, our strength. In our choice, in our choosing to reduce our planet’s ability to support life, we inadvertently chose a very strenuously spiritual path, that of loving through forced sharing. Perhaps this may not sound very spiritual to those listening to our words, however, then we learned that sharing was more valuable than surviving. We obtained a vibration level that enabled us to both sustain our bodies and at the same time, progress beyond physical needs.

We share this story with you not in pride, obviously, but in encouragement. Small though your numbers may be, those of you who have grown beyond your brothers in your desire to love and share will be able in destitution and poverty and in starvation to mold and guide the growth of your race but only if you keep faith with your feelings. We feel that it is necessary to encourage you at this point because the time draws near when your strengths will be called upon and tested severely. Many of those strengths in many of you are already being tested at this time.

We love you in the manner of brothers who can only watch and encourage and advise you as you grow and we desire that your growth be rapid and as painless as is possible. However, what you call growing pains will occur and are occurring now that you may adapt yourselves to the experience of pain without taking the pain within and clinging to it as one would a valuable jewel or possession. All things pass, as will your pains even if they pass as a result of your death on the physical plane. Do not let this death or these pains worry you. They are merely tools with which the universe shapes the final product which you so desire to become. I am Hatonn.

(04-30-2018, 09:58 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Is it STS to pray to want to be more compassionate when you serve others? Like let's say you serve at a soup kitchen, but don't really feel it. But you really want to. Could you work on feeling it?

Quote:While knowing your shape [the author used this word as an acronym - see blow] is important for serving God, having the heart of a servant is even more important. Remember, God shaped you for service, not for self-centeredness. Without a servant’s heart, you will be tempted to misuse your shape for personal gain. You will also be tempted to use it as an excuse to exempt yourself from meeting some needs.

God often tests our hearts by asking us to serve in ways we’re not shaped. If you see a man fall into a ditch, God expects you to help him out, not say, “I don’t have the gift of mercy or service.” While you may not be gifted for a particular task, you may be called to do it if no one gifted at it is around. Your primary ministry should be in the area of your shape, but your secondary service is wherever you’re needed at the moment. Your shape reveals your ministry, but your servant’s heart will reveal your maturity. No special talent or gift is required to stay after a meeting to pick up trash or stack chairs. Anyone can be a servant. All it requires is character /.../

Servants are always on the lookout for ways to help others. When they see a need, they seize the moment to meet it /.../ The size of the task is irrelevant /.../ Jesus specialized in menial tasks that everyone else tried to avoid: washing feet, helping children, fixing breakfast, and serving lepers /.../ Small tasks often show a big heart /.../ No task is beneath you when you have a servant’s heart.

The shape acronym:

Spiritual gifts
Heart
Abilities
Personality
Experience

(R. Warren: The Purpose-Driven Life)

(04-27-2018, 07:24 PM)cel Wrote: Carla Rueckert in Living the Law of One for STO provides the shining examples of the Peace Pilgrim and MLK (pages 82-87).  Being supremely peaceful with the intention of transforming society locally (nay, globally) you can achieve by striving as best you can to demonstrate and share the ultimate peaceful, loving state of being.


Some kind souls in this world volunteer their time by feeding the poor and ministering to the sick. You could call these acts by individuals as literally “serving” or helping “others”, because these are both examples of loving kindness and charity.  But “chartity” is not what Ra means when s/he strictly refers to STO.  STO to Ra means causing another lost soul to remember his or her true origin as a being of Radiant Light. Graduation through STO means helping at least one other lost soul reach mystical union with the Creator, even if for a few fleeting moments. The temporary mystical experience - - feeling the Creator’s love flow inside, around and through you - - is a unique, special privilege. Such individual transcendence is indicative of success, in terms of graduation from 3rd to 4th Density. This is the whole purpose of human existence on this blue-green orb.  

In comparison, spending time at a soup kitchen is by itself strictly not STO. Is this correct? 

What about alleviating suffering through other means like perhaps by practicing “Reiki”?  Is this by itself what Ra is referring to as STO or not? 

I question whether Ra means healing suffering (Reiki or any other modality) as a true path to graduation because graduation involves so much more than reducing someone else’s pain.  Ra’s STO path involves helping or inspiring in someone else to “open to intelligent infinity”(17.2)  Reducing someone else’s material suffering on a grand scale or tiny scale is not the experience of Enlightenment that Ra describes that leads to graduation. Am I right?

Can someone please verify my understanding here and provide some clarity?

L.V.X

(05-02-2018, 05:54 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: Thanks for explaining your thinking on thoughts, heh, John. You appear to be drawing a distinction between our deeper beliefs or habits of mind and our more surface, conscious thoughts. This is an interesting angle I hadn't considered.

Let me see if I am getting what you're saying: your point is that we can't simply consciously think ourselves to polarization; it comes from taking a thorough inventory of our beliefs, values, and perhaps what those of Ra call biases. Thoughts, though an element of the mind and the polarization process, are more a product of underlying beliefs and biases than themselves the drivers of polarization. Do I have that right?

I think that's very insightful. So what, in your opinion, is the role of our day-to-day conscious thinking? If we can't think our way to polarization, towards what ought we think?

(05-02-2018, 07:09 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: John, today I felt my heart chakra open a little more, and felt some bliss that lasted like a minute in the heart. It happened while I was meditating, and when I had just awoken from a nap. So I think we may reach a point where we can feel that bliss almost all the time. It's happening more than it used to. It's not overpowering, but pleasant.

So that's another benefit of opening the chakras, and being in the flow.

Quote:10.14 Questioner: For general development [of the] reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or exercises to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?

Ra: I am Ra.

Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.

Exercise Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful exercise.

Exercise Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.

Exercise Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.

The foundation or prerequisite of these exercises is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these exercises can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit.

(05-02-2018, 06:15 PM)johncarson698 Wrote: Thoughts are good for combing through each aspect until we approach the deep rooted 'distortion' (coined by Ra) that needs to be examined.

(05-03-2018, 11:54 AM)rva_jeremy Wrote: I think there's definitely value in separating beliefs from the more discursive or pragmatic thoughts that occur within one.

I know that's something Jim McCarty talked about at homecoming 2015 that really stuck with me. He described how he would also play hypothetical, imagined future interactions with people in his head as he was working, and they were almost always confrontational or oppositional encounters. I do the same thing, so I really sympathized. He went on to say that he got tired of this, so he just started singing "hallelujah" when he'd work, over and over, and how this totally changed his entire mindset and emotional condition.

So that doesn't perfectly map onto the utility of thought alone as a way to examine distortions and biases, but it does show how taking direct charge of our thinking -- mindfulness, in a way -- is very important to allowing new frequencies of life to filter through our mind complex. Like most people,  I imagine, I feel more run by my thoughts than that I think them expressly. Meditation has started to slow me down enough to see what's going on, which is both a blessing and a tremendous responsibility!

(05-03-2018, 11:54 AM)rva_jeremy Wrote: Your point, John, about using conscious thought in self-examination raises an interesting point: the responsible use of conscious thought in every other situation! What about those day-to-day thoughts?

(05-03-2018, 01:05 PM)rva_jeremy Wrote: By "day-to-day" thoughts, I mean the kind of thinking we normally do consciously. I mean, can we be in a constant state of self-reflection? I suppose that's the premise of my question -- that we can't.

Quote:I agree, i think this is a pretty good theory, although i think most 3rd density life has this type mechanism.  I'm thinking low harvest is due to a combination of a couple things
-this planet has a mix of souls at different levels of development.  You have those of Maldek and Mars, who destroyed their worlds due to bellicosity (So this was a bad start) and was at stage 3.3 or 3.4 in development, and then you have the primitive Ape man that originated from 2nd densitiy who is at 3.1,  then you have souls from other star systems who may be positive or negative that range from 3.3 to 3.7.

Quote:-From what i've read, Earth has a level of Free Will that no other planet has, due to the veil.  Back in Atlantean times, they had telepathic awareness... Think about if we can hear each other's thoughts.  Then it would be difficult to hide our true intentions.  We would polarize much faster as a society.  The fact that veil was strengthened to give rise to speech probably was a big impact

(05-03-2018, 10:34 PM)crimson Wrote: Mars bodies did not reproduce.  Reproducing bodies were Earth's.  Genetic manipulation applied to all 3d ape-like bodies, so the sub logos is not totally responsible for what it was going to come.  Souls reincarnation is different (3.0, 3.1 etc etc if you want to number sub densities).  Reincarnated  souls reincarnated in 3d ape bodies as appropriate.  Melanin is the single most differentiator of so called ape bodies with blond blue eyed ape bodies having less melanin and possibly other forms of adaptation according to latitudes.  A 3.9999 3D soul can reincarnate in Nigeria or in Sweden or in China.  Same for 3.1.  Same for double activated transitional 4d souls.  Maldek souls (at the beginning), reincarnated way before 3d was available in ape 2d bodies due to karmic balance.  Currently, at the end of the cycle and with so many billions of souls any soul will reincarnate where it should (or can), that is a Denebian won't reincarnate in China region necessarily, it might well be in Brazil, for example.  

(05-03-2018, 10:34 PM)crimson Wrote: Don't recall the material talking about Atlantis and 3d entities able to communicate telepathically instead of speech.  Can you provide the link?
The speech issue was mostly due to the genetics implemented by the so called one of the Guardians (later losing their name) at the beginning of the 3d.  Sub logos implemented the opposable thumb.