(04-06-2018, 09:16 PM)MangusKhan Wrote: makes me wonder how highly polarised beings are able to take on so much of others' suffering. I read a Quo session where they talk about Jesus's ability to know and accept all the suffering of the creator, or something to that meaning. That must be intense...

(04-06-2018, 09:16 PM)MangusKhan Wrote: I recoiled a lot really. The experience was genuinely frightening. I wasn't afraid of him, he was just a broken sad man with a lot of issues. It was more a kind of existential dread I felt afterwards, like what I had just witnessed was only the tip of a giant iceberg of suffering; had I even really made a difference? Really makes me wonder how highly polarised beings are able to take on so much of others' suffering. I read a Quo session where they talk about Jesus's ability to know and accept all the suffering of the creator, or something to that meaning. That must be intense...

(04-06-2018, 09:16 PM)MangusKhan Wrote:

(04-06-2018, 02:37 AM)peregrine Wrote: Hmm, talk about catalyst.

In the face of this guy's suffering through serious internal imbalance as a result of, possibly, the driver doing the same for his own reasons, I'd say you navigated the situation with impressive poise, dude.  Rather than recoil at the icky, repulsive side of the magnet, you supported the positive side of the polarity.  The guy you met was suffering because he loved his daughter; that love should be supported, indeed.

I recoiled a lot really. The experience was genuinely frightening. I wasn't afraid of him, he was just a broken sad man with a lot of issues. It was more a kind of existential dread I felt afterwards, like what I had just witnessed was only the tip of a giant iceberg of suffering; had I even really made a difference? Really makes me wonder how highly polarised beings are able to take on so much of others' suffering. I read a Quo session where they talk about Jesus's ability to know and accept all the suffering of the creator, or something to that meaning. That must be intense...

(04-06-2018, 12:23 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: To put this into perspective, a higher-class person might likely deal with the catalyst in a very similar way - though their heroin comes in pill form. Substance abuse is rampant in our society and using it to numb the pain of a severely traumatic event is actually quite socially acceptable. Hopefully your love helps him begin an upward spiral, instead of the likely downward spiral he would have begun alone. Blessings to you and him, and thanks.

Thanks Jade, you're right about the class dynamics at play. This guy had led a pretty sad life, not born into comfort at all. His first girlfriend had already died of a heroin overdose by the time he was 14, to give you an idea of the kind of experiences he'd been collecting up until this latest tragedy. He broke all his needles and threw them in the bin after he was done shooting up though. I like to think he will start in a new direction now, but I wouldn't blame him if he chooses to take his time.

(04-07-2018, 01:47 PM)Glow Wrote: It really shows the difference just listening and being there for people can make. We don't have to fix everything just offer understanding and compassion. https://www.ted.com/talks/dixon_chibanda_why_i_train_grandmothers_to_treat_depression

(04-07-2018, 01:47 PM)Glow Wrote: I think knowing how to set up boundries was really amazing. I have a weakness of trying to shoulder people to much and I am learning. If you want to see an amazing thing going on in the world watch this tedtalk. Why I train grandmothers to treat depression.

It really shows the difference just listening and being there for people can make. We don't have to fix everything just offer understanding and compassion. https://www.ted.com/talks/dixon_chibanda_why_i_train_grandmothers_to_treat_depression

It's also amazing to see how any of us could end up in their place just born in a different life.