Quote:M: Yes. I was reading about wanderers and how some of them cannot quite adjust to the third density and if they die in confusion, do they stay in the third density or do they go to their normal place?

Latwii: I am Latwii. Generally speaking, those entities known as wanderers enter the density no better equipped for the most part than those who [are] originally of that density in that the wanderer, in experiencing the forgetting, is not allowed to draw upon the full resource of experiences. They are in essence playing the odds, so to speak, that their natural tendency toward positive polarization will exert itself, and they will be successful in both contributing to the welfare of those about them and the attainment of sufficient polarization to upon their physical death be presented the option of returning to their original density or progressing to another act of service.

However, the possibility occurs, as whenever one plays the odds, that the odds will not fall in the direction that seems most obvious, and in this situation the wanderer incurs some responsibilities or karmic debts, as you refer to them, that must be discharged, and if this is not accomplished during the first incarnation, additional incarnations may be required to accomplish this end.

May we answer you further?

M: Well, do they eventually go back to their fifth or sixth dimension? I mean density, or do they stay in the third density indefinitely, the same as a third-density person?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The wanderers who discharge their acts of service without incurring further indebtedness are allowed to return to their original density or to take upon themselves further acts of service which may or may not require reincarnating in that same density on that same planet or reincarnating in that same density on a different planet, as that need exists.

May we answer you further?

M: I meant the ones that die confused. Do they have a choice or must they stay in the same density?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The distinction between confusion and indebtedness is significant in that confusion does not affect the wanderer’s attainment. The wanderer, upon experiencing physical death, once again passes through the veil of forgetting and recovers those forgotten memories. The significant factor is not confusion, but whether a karmic debt has been incurred during that incarnation. If this is the case, the wanderer must discharge the karmic debt before proceeding to his own density or further acts of service. If the wanderer has not incurred such indebtedness, he or she is free to return to the original density or elect to perform further acts of service in lesser densities.

Quote:Will you come back?

(12-16-2017, 10:09 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: L/L posted this quote in their Facebook page yesterday, and I thought it appropriate to repost it here:

Quote:M: Yes. I was reading about wanderers and how some of them cannot quite adjust to the third density and if they die in confusion, do they stay in the third density or do they go to their normal place?

Latwii: I am Latwii. Generally speaking, those entities known as wanderers enter the density no better equipped for the most part than those who [are] originally of that density in that the wanderer, in experiencing the forgetting, is not allowed to draw upon the full resource of experiences. They are in essence playing the odds, so to speak, that their natural tendency toward positive polarization will exert itself, and they will be successful in both contributing to the welfare of those about them and the attainment of sufficient polarization to upon their physical death be presented the option of returning to their original density or progressing to another act of service.

However, the possibility occurs, as whenever one plays the odds, that the odds will not fall in the direction that seems most obvious, and in this situation the wanderer incurs some responsibilities or karmic debts, as you refer to them, that must be discharged, and if this is not accomplished during the first incarnation, additional incarnations may be required to accomplish this end.

May we answer you further?

M: Well, do they eventually go back to their fifth or sixth dimension? I mean density, or do they stay in the third density indefinitely, the same as a third-density person?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The wanderers who discharge their acts of service without incurring further indebtedness are allowed to return to their original density or to take upon themselves further acts of service which may or may not require reincarnating in that same density on that same planet or reincarnating in that same density on a different planet, as that need exists.

May we answer you further?

M: I meant the ones that die confused. Do they have a choice or must they stay in the same density?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The distinction between confusion and indebtedness is significant in that confusion does not affect the wanderer’s attainment. The wanderer, upon experiencing physical death, once again passes through the veil of forgetting and recovers those forgotten memories. The significant factor is not confusion, but whether a karmic debt has been incurred during that incarnation. If this is the case, the wanderer must discharge the karmic debt before proceeding to his own density or further acts of service. If the wanderer has not incurred such indebtedness, he or she is free to return to the original density or elect to perform further acts of service in lesser densities.

(12-06-2017, 03:53 AM)Nowheretoday Wrote: I believe most people here recognize themselves as wanderers, if so, how do you feel about your choice to come down here? and now that you're here, will you come back if given the opportunity?

(12-17-2017, 04:32 PM)Glow Wrote:

(12-16-2017, 10:09 AM)Nau7ik Wrote: L/L posted this quote in their Facebook page yesterday, and I thought it appropriate to repost it here:

Quote:M: Yes. I was reading about wanderers and how some of them cannot quite adjust to the third density and if they die in confusion, do they stay in the third density or do they go to their normal place?

Latwii: I am Latwii. Generally speaking, those entities known as wanderers enter the density no better equipped for the most part than those who [are] originally of that density in that the wanderer, in experiencing the forgetting, is not allowed to draw upon the full resource of experiences. They are in essence playing the odds, so to speak, that their natural tendency toward positive polarization will exert itself, and they will be successful in both contributing to the welfare of those about them and the attainment of sufficient polarization to upon their physical death be presented the option of returning to their original density or progressing to another act of service.

However, the possibility occurs, as whenever one plays the odds, that the odds will not fall in the direction that seems most obvious, and in this situation the wanderer incurs some responsibilities or karmic debts, as you refer to them, that must be discharged, and if this is not accomplished during the first incarnation, additional incarnations may be required to accomplish this end.

May we answer you further?

M: Well, do they eventually go back to their fifth or sixth dimension? I mean density, or do they stay in the third density indefinitely, the same as a third-density person?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The wanderers who discharge their acts of service without incurring further indebtedness are allowed to return to their original density or to take upon themselves further acts of service which may or may not require reincarnating in that same density on that same planet or reincarnating in that same density on a different planet, as that need exists.

May we answer you further?

M: I meant the ones that die confused. Do they have a choice or must they stay in the same density?

Latwii: I am Latwii. The distinction between confusion and indebtedness is significant in that confusion does not affect the wanderer’s attainment. The wanderer, upon experiencing physical death, once again passes through the veil of forgetting and recovers those forgotten memories. The significant factor is not confusion, but whether a karmic debt has been incurred during that incarnation. If this is the case, the wanderer must discharge the karmic debt before proceeding to his own density or further acts of service. If the wanderer has not incurred such indebtedness, he or she is free to return to the original density or elect to perform further acts of service in lesser densities.

THe snag in that is that if you see through the veil even at the last moment of life and remember we are one. Forgiveness of self and other self erases karma. Remembering is important in that way and perhaps why I’m drawn to work with the dying. If forgiveness can be found you are free.