(09-22-2017, 06:29 AM)smc Wrote: 90% New Age bullshit

(09-22-2017, 09:50 AM)Dante776 Wrote: Lastly, I have not given my power away. That's just new age nonsense.

(10-01-2017, 03:05 AM)smc Wrote: Time and time again your posts are filled with hatred, snideness and arrogance

(10-01-2017, 10:27 AM)smc Wrote: and the heartache has gotten even stronger !! I'm now estranged from my whole family! - sister mother father... and my dad is 95.. (he was 40 when I was born)... I'll probably never see him again - and can't go to the funeral because of all the abuse and gaslighting and s*** that's happening... I live alone - no kids - no partner - no job - PTSD clinical depression, physical injuries, fibromyalgia, arthritis, severe disc protrusion in my neck... no job for the last 25 years because of a violent workplace assault that took 10 years to be dealt with in a court case... it's 36 years since I had a complete nervous breakdown at 19... from all the abuse I'd already gone through at that point - and it only got worse and worse... but I figured out either die or take loving care of yourself... and I chose self care

(09-20-2017, 08:47 PM)Dante776 Wrote: Be careful of what some may deem “The Harvest.” For many it will involve what amounts to a demonic possession /.../

(10-01-2017, 09:14 PM)smc Wrote: ok.. "MKUltra"  

I'm living in an ancient, massive, low population island (Australia) on the other side of the planet to the CIA...

other than having our phones tapped by ASIO - (when I lived with Communists 25 years ago)... I have no experience of "MKUltra"

what happened? - how were/are you targeted?

explain - I'm listening

(10-02-2017, 06:59 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: I was lurking for the first time in a while, and as usual I immediately come across something that invokes a desire to respond despite my prejudices.

Oh how funny it is that some are still as they are yet believe they have changed, and o' how hilarious it is to see how some judge others where I perceive the judgments of the other being of the self.  The classic 'Mirror Syndrome' still exists.  Such as with fear, the Law of One breeds great amounts of fear.  Perhaps it too is a control scheme.  Or is that Five Dimensional entity trying to kill the channel just for entertainment to draw the readers in?

It's nice to see how cemented some things are, perhaps that's a part of the joy of incarnate physical life, how slowly things change.  The time that is granted by that concept.  The way we all argue with each other without realizing we're arguing with ourselves.  Then after it's all said and done, we laugh at how ridiculous we in the flesh were now that we're outside of it.

Anyway, hi Dante, interesting post you've made.  I hope my commentary will be of some help to you, if not, please don't club me to death.

I'm just going to come out and say it.

What you are dealing with is empowered by one fuel source above all else.  Your belief.

You believe.  With it you open the energetic system to interaction with entities of such a belief.  Interestingly this is encouraged because it's a form of magic, ironically it's not spoken alongside it's dangers for a reason.  Possession, Corruption, Entanglement, Infringement, you name it, you believe in the higher beings, the godly ones with access to energy like a tool one can grasp and utilize with appendages.  You believe in them and further you believe in their power, their abilities, and you finally ascend the naivety of polarity with the understanding of the preached information in the Law of One, that passed a point, left and right have no analogy, no presence, they are one in the same being identified and interpreted by individuals who grasp and perceive uniquely.

So, here you are, you know all this crazy stuff, what's more you believe in it, and now you're having a falling out.  You're beginning to mature to the reality of the new reality you entered, you're realizing the depth of it's consequences and gains.  Have you realized it's magic yet?  There is no such thing as innocent magic use, when you open your mind and heart to the universe, which is containing potentially all things, you open yourself up to the higher energies which have no judgment between left and right (the Law of One does not look away from either path), and further you begin to realize that the same 'good guys' you believe in are more than capable of the 'bad guy' stuff, and suddenly your God is not just a Lover, but a Monster too.

So what can you do?  Even further is how you have allowed yourself to let another being as you perceive it to control you.

So let's stop there and let me point out something.  In the Law of One, the way Ra asks the group to handle the Five Dimensional Entity, is to regard it as your self and treat it as such.  The idea in line here is if it's truly of a left hand polarity, serenading it in the love of self it knows, only now from another (yourself), will weaken it enough so to compromise it's danger.

And then they drop the bomb that is you cannot be of service to others to a service to self entity, and even referred to the ideal as humorous.

So.  Contradictory just a bit you might think, well yeah, reality and life is a paradox, the Law of One is a paradox, as is unity, infinity, eternity, so how does one be a way they cannot be?

Hey, Dante, have you ever thought that perhaps it's all in your mind?  And the power and control you provide to others is something you create from yourself?

Regardless of what the cause actually is, what's important is you need to do some spiritual cleansing and soul searching with these entities.  They are your darkness manifest, and there is a war going on within your mind, but you deem it between you and 'them'.

'They', don't care how you perceive it so long as it's in the wrong way (right way for them).  As a creature of the mind, you are under control by your own mind.  Your mind is also under your control, this isn't Star Trek where someone can just think up control of your body, they need to work for it, and it is a lot of work.  You think your soul just incarnated and mergered with the fetus that was you and was able to control the body all willy-nilly?  No way dude!  Your soul had to take time to map out the nervous system and merge with it.  These entities might have your own mergered control system to piggy-back on but they can't just hijack you without your letting them.  Perhaps they can fight and overpower your willpower, but then that still ultimately boils down to you relenting to their motions rather than your own.

Don't relent, but also don't fight.  The greatest truth of battle is each injury you inflict upon another is an injury you inflict upon yourself.  It's in spirit, and perhaps more metaphorical than literal, but truly inflicting violence hurts all parties involved one way or another.  You are trying to counter their control with your own style of violence.

That is the problem, the violence.  It's all so violent isn't it.  The good guys can be evil, the life is just cannon fodder for other entities, physical creation is a test dummy for metaphysical creation.  The control and implants, the fear and force, the disbelief and desperation, the feelings of disdain and uncertainty leading you to the feeling of a loss control which incites within your instinctive responses a need for anger and violence, lashing back out to regain control.

I have a saying, taken from the Led Zeppelin song Stairway to Heaven, To Be A Rock And Not To Roll.

The rock is not violent.  It's just hard, and blunt, or jagged, but it isn't violent.  It's heavy, compact, and potentially dangerous, but that rock is still, and while it is still it is not violent.  Be a Rock, and don't roll.  When you start rolling, you have all these new forces behind you, the ability to cut, the ability to break, even the ability to self destruct upon impact.

The point of that entire rock metaphor is you are a rolling rock, you see the Flyer as the one who holds you, and you say you are not in control of yourself as it throws you about and strikes another with you.  Perhaps if you were a literal rock in perfect stillness without comprehension of how you are used, this wouldn't be an issue, but to you as a self aware being, it is disconcerting, so you roll with it, you try to slip out of the hand.  You push off the responsibility as belonging to you for when you are used to start a fire or smash a window.  But you are rolling, and only a rolling rock can hurt someone without another using that rolling rock.

It's violent.  Stop, just stop rolling with it, stop believing in it, stop thinking about it in certain ways.  You need to stand still, and perceive the situation from a standpoint that is not constantly blurred from your rolling through the situation.

You are, another person in the portrait of a landscape that is God.  You are the rock in it, and you are not supposed to be rolling, you're not a landslide, or a falling toppling rock, you're a boulder on the ground still and quaint.  Maybe you're in a battlefield, perhaps something has struck you, and perhaps you are covered in blood, but maybe you're not.  Maybe it's just a fictional portrayal you as the rock are imagining yourself in.

Is your normal life becoming boring, or spiraling out of control?  Have you lost many close friends, has anyone close to you died recently?  Are you aware that you are disassociating yourself from the physical reality you exist within?  That this disassociation is a form of self created magic done by the mind for the mind to cope?

You are possessed?  Stop believing in it, when that belief rears it's ugly head, let it's gross gaze stare right through you, as if you were glass.  Then continue being as you were, TRY TO, tell yourself it's just you thinking of things that aren't healthy and to think of healthy things, like a delicious glass of mint tea.  Demons HATE mint (citation needed), and they sure as hell can't stand the yumminess of tea leaves soaked in water (citation needed).

I mean, what does a demon even want from you, who are you?  Or any one for real, like arguable none of this is even real, all just a holographic illusion of light birthed by shadows of the Creator distorting manifestations of its self.  The light can't have an analogue without darkness to define it.  Just as the light defines shadows, those shadows define the light that forms them.  The sharper the light, the sharper the darkness, the closer the light, the blurrier the darkness, the more intense the light, the more the shadows fade away, but behind every single light, there is darkness.  Just at space bro, all of that 'darkness' out there has enough light flowing through it to light it up like a christmas tree plugged into a dam, the only reason we don't see it is because that light isn't all traveling right at us so we don't see it's path, not like the stars we see in the sky (of which we're seeing their past selves because light apparently can travel into the future because it travels at it's own speed which relativity says there is no time at the speed of light and what am I even saying anymore...)

My point is, you need to change the way you think about it, sort of like SMC said, that is literally the most important thing because here's the reality man.  No demon can grab your hand, and make it strike someone, without you allowing it.  If you hate, it draws on that.  Just like in hypnosis, you can't make a hypnotized person do something they deeply truly do not want to do (unless you literally torture them with drugs and physical harm until their own persona is lost to them aka 'broken', of which demons can't make you ingest drugs or inflict enough pain upon you to make you pass out regardless of what some would say).

If you are doing things against your will, well, some part of you is okay with it, perhaps you should pinpoint that part and heal it with acceptance and a lack of judgment that dissolves it back into where it spawned, that being you.

Further if your thoughts are an antennae then it's all the more important to broadcast on frequencies that those entities find painful (like a loud shrill noise to them that's a pleasant hum to you).  But don't do it to hurt them, you don't forgive a person to make them feel bad that you forgave them, you forgive a person for your own self.

So change the way you think for yourself to get the darknesses of yourself in line with your self.  Remember that every evil entity is an extension of your shadow self, and further, you're an extension of a portion of themselves that they are trying to dominate.  If you are unable to be dominated, do you think they'll spend the energy trying anymore?  For each failure to harm you, they lose power without gain.

In polarity, the dark polarity is truly handicapped in how much collective disdain exists towards it, formulating their realities to be very hard to sustain the self within without basically being a slave.  That there are those that can travel willy-nilly is a blessing, it is their presence that points out how contrasting your presence is.

So the next time this godly dark entity is trying to control you, remember, it's trying to control a portion of its self as per it's intention and will due to it's present configuration of evolutionary lessons (polarity), and the only job required of you, is to refrain from controlling it in lieu of accepting it.

That might make it sound like you should just let it do what it wants with you, but what I'm really trying to say is you need to stop fighting it, and start loving it.

Make Flirts not Fights.
Make Love not War.
Make Peace not Violence.

If you think you have no power, then so it shall seem.

Your belief controls your destiny.

How many wars in our history wouldn't exist were we just forgiving and willing to love that which has hurt us? (and how hypocritical I am for mentioning that too as I'm not much better than the average person.)

So, take what I have to say with a grain of salt, but do consider it.  Your thoughts are the filters that you perceive reality through.  If they say 'this godly dark thing is controlling me oh holy f***!' then eventually it's gonna seem like that.

And, you know, worse case scenario, you learn to find happiness in slavery.  Whether it be to a dark god's puppet, or to the OIC as a manifested plaything for it to learn through.

But best case scenario, it's not real and all in your head for you to help provide deeper understandings of specific types of lessons to the Creator and one day it will get much better than what any godly entity could provide for you.

Which scenario seems preferable?  Perhaps think more towards that belief system?

Or don't.  Thanks for reading, sorry if I was confusing and long winded.  I too have not changed all that much.

(10-02-2017, 11:31 PM)smc Wrote: Dante776 - with sincere respect and kindness - I think you're experiencing psychosis or may have schizophrenia.

(I've had 2 boyfriends and one very close girlfriend experience this.) Your ideation is completely consistent with these possible diagnoses.

One of the hallmarks is a complete conviction that ALL your ideas, perceptions, sensations and 'information' are actual - real.


I'm aware that you will completely disagree; but my personal ethics insist that I give you this feedback.


It's important to emphasise that in saying this - I don't at all discount the existence of nefarious, dangerous, demonic entities.

I fully acknowledge "negative greetings" exist, occur and are a serious and debilitating issue.

NB: I don't want to start a shitstorm in posting this here - but I can't keep quiet about this.

This is a mental health 'duty of care' issue that needs to be discussed honestly; and is long overdue for discussion on B4th.

There IS a difference between clairvoyance/telepathy/clairaudience/clairsentience/claircognisance (et al) and psychosis/OCD/ADHD/BP/Clinical depression/PTSD/Schizophrenia/hallucinations (et al)

I know this because I've either directly witnessed or personally experienced the difference.

Also, I'm not necessarily saying your ideas/'information' is inaccurate or incorrect - what concerns me - what puts up a key red flag is your report of your body being partially taken over... and that you feel you can 'vouch for 98% of the videos you've seen of this' - that right there is VERY concerning - because this is the exact kind of closed minded insistence that I've seen in my partners and friend. (Plus - 98%? - this 'belief' is also a red flag.)

I haven't had time to read all of C_A's reply or your reply to him - just skimmed and am heading out for a while - but felt I should start this discussion before I head into town....

please understand that I say what I am to you without discounting you're experiencing actual real negative entity "greetings"....

you definitely are (imo) but I think you also have a mental illness/ brain chemistry imbalance

sincerely offered with respect and a lot of experience with this area of brain chemistry/mental health issues  

(10-02-2017, 06:59 PM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: stuff

(10-02-2017, 11:34 PM)smc Wrote: (nb: in advance - please Mahakali don't chime in saying I'm suggesting lobotomies !)

(10-02-2017, 10:44 PM)Dante776 Wrote: stuff

(10-03-2017, 05:32 AM)smc Wrote: riiiight.....

Then it's time you explain when and how this demonic possession occurred - and what steps you're going to take to remedy the situation you say you're in...

otherwise I'm beginning to wonder if what we have here is a highly 'sophisticated' trolling attempt...

Quote:I was going to kill myself -  I couldn't live with the pain any longer...

Quote:I stopped allowing family to verbally abuse me - I wrote letters speaking my mind and confronting lies - I cut off people who disrespected me

Quote:again I promised myself I would become my best friend - that I would love and support myself and I would be gentle with myself - I would give myself all the things I was wanting from all the shitty abusers and abandoning people who should have done better by me...

Quote:and the heartache has gotten even stronger !! I'm now estranged from my whole family! - sister mother father... and my dad is 95.. (he was 40 when I was born)... I'll probably never see him again - and can't go to the funeral because of all the abuse and gaslighting and s*** that's happening... I live alone - no kids - no partner - no job - PTSD clinical depression, physical injuries, fibromyalgia, arthritis, severe disc protrusion in my neck... no job for the last 25 years because of a violent workplace assault that took 10 years to be dealt with in a court case... it's 36 years since I had a complete nervous breakdown at 19... from all the abuse I'd already gone through at that point - and it only got worse and worse...

Quote:riiiight.....

Then it's time you explain when and how this demonic possession occurred - and what steps you're going to take to remedy the situation you say you're in...

Quote:I trust me

I love me

I've got my back

I used to be fucking furious

and I had EVERY right to be

just as you do

(10-02-2017, 10:44 PM)Dante776 Wrote: I am in agreement with most everything else that you've said. But, just know that what I am dealing with is a hierarchy of beings that lead straight to the universal conscious mind. This is the domain of the gestalt entity known as Ra, which is why I believe he/she/it is part of this polarity game. Traditional love and light teachings don't seem to apply here. I know, I've been doing it for years. Still doing it! Years ago there was a play called "Your Arms are Too Short to Box with God." This is like trying to box with God! Imagine what that would be like? When he/she/it has every possible advantage over you imaginable by a lofty opponent.

(10-02-2017, 10:44 PM)Dante776 Wrote: I definitely believe that there is a 'harvest' going on here, but 'what kind' of harvest is the question? They are definitely manipulating my DNA/RNA. Perhaps this is ascension of a different kind. Some say that ascension requires merging with your oversoul and avatar that are part of your monad. This may involve reclaiming all lost fragments of your soul which includes those that are of a lower frequency or what some would call demonic or the shadow.

Or perhaps the demons are the Archons, as spoken of by the Nostics, that seek to block your ascension. I can't say for sure, but what I can say is that this is a harrowing experience and just caution everyone on the path to be aware of all of the possibilities that you may encounter just as a sort of "heads" up. I only wish I had that sort of admonishment because this, when it all started, caught me totally off guard.  

(10-01-2017, 08:39 AM)Mahakali Wrote: What I will say is that you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone on a higher plateau of misery. There is nothing you could do to me to make me feel any worse to any substantial degree.

(10-03-2017, 01:02 PM)Dante776 Wrote:

(10-03-2017, 05:32 AM)smc Wrote: riiiight.....

Then it's time you explain when and how this demonic possession occurred - and what steps you're going to take to remedy the situation you say you're in...

otherwise I'm beginning to wonder if what we have here is a highly 'sophisticated' trolling attempt...

Quote:I was going to kill myself -  I couldn't live with the pain any longer...

Quote:I stopped allowing family to verbally abuse me - I wrote letters speaking my mind and confronting lies - I cut off people who disrespected me

Quote:again I promised myself I would become my best friend - that I would love and support myself and I would be gentle with myself - I would give myself all the things I was wanting from all the shitty abusers and abandoning people who should have done better by me...

Quote:and the heartache has gotten even stronger !! I'm now estranged from my whole family! - sister mother father... and my dad is 95.. (he was 40 when I was born)... I'll probably never see him again - and can't go to the funeral because of all the abuse and gaslighting and s*** that's happening... I live alone - no kids - no partner - no job - PTSD clinical depression, physical injuries, fibromyalgia, arthritis, severe disc protrusion in my neck... no job for the last 25 years because of a violent workplace assault that took 10 years to be dealt with in a court case... it's 36 years since I had a complete nervous breakdown at 19... from all the abuse I'd already gone through at that point - and it only got worse and worse...

Sorry, but sounds like you're the one that's experiencing a psychosis or schizophrenia. Perhaps misery is seeking company? Sorry, but I'm not the right company. Mine is more of a "spiritual" phenomenon. Your situation definitely sounds more "mental" and I think anyone reading your posts and my posts can tell the difference. With all that I'm going through, I've never once considered suicide. I can only imagine what you would've done if you walked in my shoes just one day.

Quote:riiiight.....

Then it's time you explain when and how this demonic possession occurred - and what steps you're going to take to remedy the situation you say you're in...

Really? Is that really necessary in order for you to believe me? I don't need You to prove to Me how your family abused you, people disrespected you, shitty abusers abused you, and all of the other horrible things that you claim brought you to the brink of suicide, TWICE!! You've relayed "Your Story" and I have no reason to doubt you. This is not a court here. It's just a forum where people are sharing their views and personal experiences. Whether you believe it or not is inconsequential to me. As far as a remedy? I'm doing just as you did when you confronted the "human" demons that were plaguing you... In your own words!

Quote:I trust me

I love me

I've got my back

I used to be fucking furious

and I had EVERY right to be

just as you do

Thank you.

(10-04-2017, 12:04 AM)Aion Wrote: Has that been working for you, Mahakali?

(10-04-2017, 12:10 AM)Coordinate_Apotheosis Wrote: In my equally dissenting opinion, Mahakali's advice to 'manipulate the ether' and spend tons of hours being unemployed and paranoid and to sit still and do nothing for hours at a time is also pretty poisonous.

Take all the advice you gather on this forum with, like, an EXTREMELY FINE grain of salt.

Hey, Mahakali, I hope things get better for you, maybe then you won't be so quick to bash on other people who're just trying to be helpful no differently from you.

(10-04-2017, 02:45 AM)Aion Wrote: How might I ask will manipulation of the ether change your situation? What might you change in the ethers that will produce the reality you desire?