(06-24-2016, 01:06 PM)Aion Wrote:

(06-24-2016, 12:52 PM)YinYang Wrote: Naturally, those things I approve of would be good in my eyes, and those things I disapprove of would be evil in my eyes. "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" is one of those sayings that actually makes no sense. One who is balanced isn't oblivious to evil, they accept the opposite polarity without judgement. Words like "empty" and "void" in this context when everyone is trying to understand a concept better, means nothing to me...

The idea is that because the state of reality is like a mirror which is reflective of many distorted states then any point you are perceiving evil you are really perceiving a distorted part of yourself. 'Empty' and 'Void' are just words  attempting to grasp at that state of 'silent' equilibrium when the cognitive dissonance between opposing concepts is resolved. Thus suggesting the extremes of polarity are held only as far apart as you choose to hold them.

That is funny how you say 'one who is balanced isn't oblivious to evil, they accept the opposite polarity without judgement', thus creating a further separation by creating a duality of 'balanced' and 'evil'.

My only point is that what you perceive in reality is either a distorted perception of yourself a distorted perception of another self. I think that trying to polarize things by labeling them as this or that is the exact opposite of this exercise, which I see as an attempt to resolve opposites in to unity. Thus, for me, I would not like to say something is good or evil, I say it is empty or void because for me those are terms which are 'polar-neutral'.

Other people may prefer different terms and have different concepts relating to these ideas. I am attempting only to explain my own consideration of these ideas. This is to describe the inner state of an entity.

I did not speak of ignoring or being oblivious, quite the opposite. By declining to separate things in to 'good and 'evil' you begin to see there are more complex relationships at work between individuals than a simple concept of two extremes and I think Ra was trying to point to that vast complexity many times.

Good and evil are labels, categories which have been established for a long time but always relating to that which is approved and that which is disapproved. Accepting both of these things within yourself does not make them go away but it does bring peace. For me, peace feels empty, void of conflict and activity and thus restful. So I use those words.

That being said, again, that does not mean I 'negate' or ignore evil or good for that matter, it is that I see a point of resolution for them.

(02-23-2016, 04:30 PM)Adonai One Wrote: I see no reason to act. I see no reason to cling packets of suppressed emotion called thoughts, words.

(06-24-2016, 01:56 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote:

(06-24-2016, 01:26 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: Here is a quote where Q'uo refers to studying "geography" to studying the tarot.

I'm not disagreeing that studying tarot and the archetypes is ONE way of exploring some higher level geographies.  In fact, in the quote you found, that's exactly how Q'uo describes it.  One system of exploring the creation of concepts, not the only or exclusive system.

And this part of the quote is pretty much saying what I've been trying to say:

Quote:Consequently it is the color and structure of thoughts that creates meaning. It is a creation in which what this instrument would call ideals are geography, and these ideas, these concepts, these thoughts are of an order which your peoples have studied in various ways as mythology, as religion, as philosophy of a certain kind, always attempting to express truths that are too fine for the physical senses to comprehend.

There are many different systems and potential ways of trying to wrap our heads around higher-level energetic geographies such as the relationships between vibrations/colors, ideas, their expression, and their larger systemic effects when interacting - just as teachings such as religion and philosophy attempt to do.   In any case, it's about trying to get at and perceive underlying interactions within intelligent infinity which are nearly impossible to directly observe in physical 3D existence.  

And Tarot was a very convenient system to use for illustration and practice, since both Ra and the group already had an affinity for it.

Quote:44.10 Questioner: This is very revealing to us. Thank you. Each of us gets the signals and dreams. I have been aware of clairaudient communication at least once in waking up. Can you suggest a method whereby we might, shall I say, nullify the effect of the influence that we don’t want from a negative source?


Ra: I am Ra. There are various methods. We shall offer the most available or simple. To share the difficult contact with the other-selves associated with this working and to meditate in love for these senders of images and light for self and other-selves is the most available means of nullifying the effects of such occurrences. To downgrade these experiences by the use of intellect or the disciplines of will is to invite the prolonging of the effects. Far better then to share in trust such experiences and join hearts and souls in love and light with compassion for the sender and armor for the self.

(06-24-2016, 02:22 PM)YinYang Wrote:

’Aion’ Wrote:The idea is that because the state of reality is like a mirror which is reflective of many distorted states then any point you are perceiving evil you are really perceiving a distorted part of yourself. 'Empty' and 'Void' are just words attempting to grasp at that state of 'silent' equilibrium when the cognitive dissonance between opposing concepts is resolved. Thus suggesting the extremes of polarity are held only as far apart as you choose to hold them.

"Cognitive dissonance" in the context of balancing would be incorrect, because cognitive dissonance is the discomfort a person experiences by regarding two opposing realities, one false and one true, to both be true. Just out of interest, the term was first used by Leon Festinger when they infiltrated a UFO cult, to observe the cult members when their leader’s prophecy failed (when saucers didn't land on the lawn to take them away).

When you do the balancing exercises Ra speaks of, you are not attempting to make a truth and a falsity both true. You are balancing characteristics and behaviours which you approve or disapprove of within yourself with their antitheses, both of which are true and real.

’Aion’ Wrote:That is funny how you say 'one who is balanced isn't oblivious to evil, they accept the opposite polarity without judgement', thus creating a further separation by creating a duality of 'balanced' and 'evil'.

Not at all, acceptance of that which you disapprove of doesn’t create further separation, it smoothes out the duality within yourself, it balances the two. The duality already exists in 3D, there’s no getting around that. Rejection creates separation, disharmony and blockages, or "resistance", as per the thread's title.

’Aion’ Wrote:My only point is that what you perceive in reality is either a distorted perception of yourself a distorted perception of another self. I think that trying to polarize things by labeling them as this or that is the exact opposite of this exercise, which I see as an attempt to resolve opposites in to unity. Thus, for me, I would not like to say something is good or evil, I say it is empty or void because for me those are terms which are 'polar-neutral'.

If you don’t "label" or rather identify things as per Ra’s example (male/female + patience/impatience) how are you going to identify it’s anti-thesis in order to balance yourself?

’Aion’ Wrote:That being said, again, that does not mean I 'negate' or ignore evil or good for that matter, it is that I see a point of resolution for them.

Resolution, as you say, would be the goal of these exercises, although I prefer to use the word “harmonise”, which is just the opposite of “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil”.
I also just feel like mentioning that when I use the words “good” and “evil”, I use them in the Ra context, one belonging to the positive polarity and one belonging to the negative polarity, not in a “worldly” sense where the church has bastardised these terms and made one the other and so on, according to their control tactics.

Aion Wrote:How are good and evil harmonized?

Quote:Ra: In our vibration the polarities are harmonized, the complexities are simplified, and the paradoxes have their solution.

(06-24-2016, 05:31 PM)Cyclops Wrote:

Quote:44.10 Questioner: This is very revealing to us. Thank you. Each of us gets the signals and dreams. I have been aware of clairaudient communication at least once in waking up. Can you suggest a method whereby we might, shall I say, nullify the effect of the influence that we don’t want from a negative source?


Ra: I am Ra. There are various methods. We shall offer the most available or simple. To share the difficult contact with the other-selves associated with this working and to meditate in love for these senders of images and light for self and other-selves is the most available means of nullifying the effects of such occurrences. To downgrade these experiences by the use of intellect or the disciplines of will is to invite the prolonging of the effects. Far better then to share in trust such experiences and join hearts and souls in love and light with compassion for the sender and armor for the self.

I hope this helps, maybe something to do with a smarter way to resist evil by not resisting it.

Quote:Although I suppose the current Brexit vote could be a good example, come to think of it. The energetic outcome of a certain level of converged negativity is very likely going to be creating rather large shockwaves for months or years to come.

(06-23-2016, 07:48 AM)YinYang Wrote: So how how do you guys interpret this saying from Jesus? "do not resist evil".

Nicholas Wrote:The energy of evil comes from our judgement of it,  as we assume that the creator is opposed to it.

Quote:It needs remembering that the evils and pains of life have only a passing existence and are relative to the good and joys of life. Their own existence is in the end controlled by the divine laws and used for the divinely based universal outworking. Such complementaries and relativities follow by necessity as soon as this outworking itself begins afresh with every renewed cosmic period. How could any universe come into existence without both good and evil, light and darkness, joy and sorrow, coming with it? Such duality is the inescapable and tragic side of its manifestation. The existence of one opposite is a necessary consequence of the existence of the other. Those who ask for a painless world do not comprehend that they are also asking for a joyless one. The ebb and flow between opposites of joy and anguish, possession and loss, gives man a sense of values which he could not gain to such a vivid degree any other way. Experience of one kind provides a needed balance for the experience of its contrary. This helps him to form a just estimate of bodily life and earthly values, a truer perception of its transiency, and thus brings him closer to the consciousness of the spiritual life.

- Paul Brunton

(06-25-2016, 11:09 AM)YinYang Wrote: I am always against any centralisation of power, it's dangerous on a mixed polarity planet.

Quote: Why must a group of democratic countries institute yet another layer of governance above them?

Quote: I find it very underhanded when a democratic referendum has been held, and the losers say "we don't like the outcome, let's vote again".

GentleWanderer Wrote:(Unless the government finds tens of millions of Pounds they have no other use for.)

(06-26-2016, 03:01 PM)YinYang Wrote: I haven't followed the pre-referendum campaigns too closely, so I have to be honest and say that I was not aware of any deceit and lies on the part of the Brexit campaigners. I will have to investigate to see if that is not "remain" propaganda.

Quote:I still stick to my opinion that centralisation of power is to be avoided at all cost in a world like ours.

Quote:You used the US as an example, when they became independent they seceded from Britain to govern themselves (that's decentralisation of power).

GentleWanderer Wrote:By your arguments, if it's so terrible that the EU exists, you should be advocating the breakup of the US as well. The US government is far more centralized and powerful than the EU in pretty much every way that I know of.

(06-26-2016, 03:56 PM)YinYang Wrote: Yes we have seen American strength in action in the Middle East, it was quite something to behold that's for sure. From your statement it would appear as if you are advocating "unity" in order to achieve "power". So why would you like the European continent to be so powerful? Last time someone with a funny moustache tried to centralise power it ended rather badly...

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