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RE: Embracing/Accepting Murder Fantasies and The Absence of the Value of Life in Society - Aion - 02-06-2016
Well, we are in a way, I was just curious if you had a thought behind the comment, that's all aha
RE: Embracing/Accepting Murder Fantasies and The Absence of the Value of Life in Society - Aion - 02-06-2016
I had a thought in regards to responsibility in the shower. I realized that in itself it isn't full of pressure but rather it is the rush order placed on everything in society. This is kinda where MK comes in because it is the drive for instant gratification which creates the pressure to be responsible in many senses but that is because there is both the fear of death and the shortness with which life is treated. In a sense, the 'Responsibility pressure' seems more to me to be a social construct whereas responsibility in and if itself is more like physics where there is the simple fact of involvement, energy transfer and connectivity.
That is, I believe in a natural state of reality everyone is already aware of the extent of their responsibility and so none feel undue pressure to perform other than is natural for them. I believe this is similar to what you say about how you want to release the expectation of responsibility.
However, one cannot fell a large tree without shaking the woods.
Whack a Clown murder fantasy, and more words just to make this subject long - One of Love - 09-27-2018
For some comedic relief, he once described to me a murder fantasy he had whilewatching the new remake of IT (cloowwnnss!!).
Without being too graphic, he hilariously told me that he imagined himself as a greater monster than IT and self inserted himself into the movie right when IT's cornering the kids in the sewer biting one of their faces, he says he'd swoop me as a normal decent looking clown with a big whacky red hammer and a whole bunch of hot pink makeup all over him, he'd honk his nosehorn three times. Say (I hope I approximate this well), "H- H- Hey!" like he's laughing, "You like eatin children?" Then he swings the hammer over his shoulder, "Well I like WHACK A CLOOWWWNNNNNN" and beats IT to death with the hammer, and then makes a pun about a banhammer cause he's a nerd.
I found the mental image rather humorous, bright pink male clown with a banhammer beats IT to death to save the children in a game of Whack a Clown. Hah! Whack a clown... that's funny lol
So, he really demonized himself here heh, a lot of his murder fantasies now are rather less violent and more goofy.
Probably from when he binge watched Z Nation. Sometimes horror genre needs some comedy!
(Ahhh why can't I post??... the subject is too long?? Ohhhhhh!)
RE: Embracing/Accepting Murder Fantasies and The Absence of the Value of Life in Society - GentleReckoning - 09-27-2018
I have indulged similar vices. I found that once the understanding or lesson sought by the super conscious mind for the conscious or subconscious mind is found, the vice will begin to have negative or unexpected impacts. The growing of the distortion becoming at that point like feeding energy into a black hole. At that point , in my experience, the ability to calmly leave it behind arises quite naturally.
Blahhh - One of Love - 09-27-2018
I enjoyed your mental imagery of casually walking out of a black hole moving through tidal forces like one wades through the waves crashing on a beach.
I get why people metaphorically equate the concepts of a black hole to a negative being in regards to how they might appear and handle light. But aren't Black Holes like the end and finish to the creators seeking in this reality? That when light falls into a black hole it is returning to a unity?
RE: Embracing/Accepting Murder Fantasies and The Absence of the Value of Life in Society - unity100 - 10-13-2018
Such murder fantasies etc generally pertain to repressed feelings towards things or people. Expressing those feelings in one way or the other, generally makes them go away.
Killing people or getting killed by people etc in dreams generally pertains to hostile social interactions that all or parts of a given society have, which manifest in time/space. They do not generally pertain to any inherent desire to kill someone or be killed by someone. Ie, some hostility in between a co worker in your office may manifest as you trying to kill each other in time-space, which actually happens in time-space. But the manifestation and meaning of this killing is, in reality, is either of you just attacking each other's energy with negative and aggressive feelings. If you enter conflicted social interactions or environments, like alt-right groups, military, this or that environment in which a lot of turmoil exist, you may get more of such dreams in time/space.
The more mature you are, the less these incidents happen.
RE: Embracing/Accepting Murder Fantasies and The Absence of the Value of Life in Society - GentleReckoning - 10-13-2018
(09-27-2018, 10:38 PM)One of Love Wrote: I enjoyed your mental imagery of casually walking out of a black hole moving through tidal forces like one wades through the waves crashing on a beach.
I get why people metaphorically equate the concepts of a black hole to a negative being in regards to how they might appear and handle light. But aren't Black Holes like the end and finish to the creators seeking in this reality? That when light falls into a black hole it is returning to a unity?
In a way. Remember that particles of light emanates in all directions. Like a wave. So the black hole partook of it, but it also ended up in all other black holes (to a point...).
So it's kind of like we're forced to feed these distortions not until we have learned enough, but until all has learned enough of us in relation to that distortion
RE: Embracing/Accepting Murder Fantasies and The Absence of the Value of Life in Society - AnthroHeart - 10-13-2018
I had a dream where a gang invaded my neighborhood and killed people, and I was shot in the head. I realized I was still there, seemingly unhurt, and thought it was amazing.
Another time I was killed in a dream, and remember standing behind the other people who were still alive trying to console them and let them know nothing was to worry about.
In dreams, death for me has been rather exciting.
RE: Embracing/Accepting Murder Fantasies and The Absence of the Value of Life in Society - flofrog - 10-13-2018
(02-05-2016, 04:44 PM)Aion Wrote: Thus, I would ask, what do you think anger is before it is anger and what of its passing?
I remember reading a long time ago that anger was fear expressed. I wonder if this is what is always the case, often the case, or just a seldom occurence...
If indeed anger is fear expressed, then once fear is gone, does anger disappear then ?