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RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Shemaya - 10-13-2015 (10-12-2015, 11:34 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: That, what...Tortures, rapes, bombs, and destroys others in all ways, sometimes for fun? Me neither Quote:Animal factory farming, human genetic experimentation, child sex and labor slavery, rape and torture for decades at a time. Hi TTP, these are my thoughts. If you are opening your heart to universal love, you are supposed to be disturbed, imo. You are supposed to be moved emotionally and take that kinetic energy and do something with it. It's the only way, that we as creators of our society and civilization, are going to create a positive 4D. By taking action to make it happen. Souls that want a positive 4D society/ social memory complex are not okay with the abuse, torture, and brutal violence of the current 3D experience. We live in a time when some souls will choose to experience a loving environment and some will choose to continue to live in a negative, abusive, disharmonious world. Which would you choose? If you choose the latter, you don't have to do anything, just stay the same and leave things as they are. There was a story last year about Spring break in Florida where a crowd of onlookers watched some guys gang rape a woman on the beach. That's an example of people accepting the negative experience. IMO, a positive being would do something to stop the violation and crime that was happening. What do you think? If you choose the positive experience, that means expanding radiantly forward, working through energetic obstacles within yourself and helping others do the same. it starts with yourself and your family and relationships, and the incorporates communities and society at large. There are obstacles and blockages within all these levels and anytime you clear something within yourself, your are helping us all as a SMC move forward. Anytime you take action out of love, compassion, connection to others you are helping to create the positive experience we desire. I think the point is just that, to have a beautiful, harmonious, diverse world to play and enjoy and love and be free, together. With freedom from oppression and disharmony and without violation of ourselves or others. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Jade - 10-13-2015 Quote:I think veiled systems are too slow and allow for more suffering than is necessary. To a point its wasted experience, like providing the same punch to a punching bag for the infinith tume. What the hell is left to learn for the punching bag??! Ra actually says the opposite, that the lack of a veil led to stagnation and the introduction of the veil sped up spiritual development. I think the reason it works is because there is much less opportunity to waste experience - everything causes catalyst. There is infinite service to perform. It's not like that without a veil. The punching bag learns how to take a punch better, and how to teach other punching bags how to be tougher, too. Also, what else is a punching bag going to do with itself other than fulfill its destiny? The archetypes have lots of clues to why choosing to polarize is important. More info regarding the Experience of the Mind: Quote:94.12 Questioner: It seems to me that the Experience of the Mind would act in such a way as to change the nature of the veil so that catalyst would be filtered so as to be more acceptable in the bias that is increasingly chosen by the entity. For instance, if the entity had chosen the right-hand path the Experience of the Mind would change the permeability of the veil to accept more and more positive catalyst, and also the other would be true for accepting more negative if the left-hand path were the one that was repeatedly chosen. Is this correct? Quote:95.20 Questioner: For the condition of the meeting after the veiling process, either entity will choose, as a function of its previous biases or shall I say, will choose as a function of Card Four, the Experience, the way in which it will approach or handle the situation with respect to polarity, therefore producing, most probably, more catalyst for itself along the chosen path of polarization. Would Ra comment on that statement? Quote:95.23 Questioner: What I meant to say was that the entity is guarded along the right-hand path, once it is chosen, from effects of the material illusion that are of a negative polarity. Would Ra comment on that? RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Infinite Unity - 10-13-2015 I am The Creator. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Infinite Unity - 10-13-2015 I/We Create all the mental, physical, spiritual Levels of reality, that are but mirrors that placed/organized in such and such ways to create realities. Of course it is a lot deeper then this. However this is a sufficient enough concept to do work in 3d. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Aion - 10-13-2015 (10-13-2015, 03:12 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Okay I don't think everyone understands my concern. I think you are having a close encounter with what Ra calls the 'Law of Responsibility'. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Shemaya - 10-13-2015 (10-13-2015, 11:16 AM)Aion Wrote: What if I don't want to play ANY of that game anymore?Yes, I agree. Do what you can to help the suffering. Karma is now responsibility, and this society and civilization and SMC is our responsibility RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - The_Tired_Philosopher - 10-13-2015 I'd agree with that too. I am somewhat irresponsible in various ways that I am hoping to flesh out soon enough. I hope. I suppose I should meditate on this and then contemplate on it. Hah. I do polarize actively at work every day. Though not nearly as much as I used to now. But I agree, it's a quiet part of the reason I work graveyard shifts, to avoid things. But the odd thing that does come about I can effectively use to try and polarize, if not just be myself and honest, or try to just make a person smile. Random compliments on clothes sometimes work, jewelry usually does too, I love jewelry so I compliment it often, since it too is also alive. But I can't handle a lot at once. It's not anxiety, it's like I just get rigid and turn hollow, and now I'm a mask of myself. Because otherwise I'd just be kind of bouncy with everything I do, since I always have my own soundtracks going on in my head, kind of like an internal song you hum and 'che' sound to?? Beat box style maybe? I don't know how to describe it but I just don't do it anymore. I can't let all of that in and try to make sense of it. It gets rough. So I guess I'm an introvert who likes to be alone a lot because I've been alone most of my life. Now I'm sitting here like, 'crap, how do I help but not have to deal with tons of people and social gatherings??' So uh. Suggestions for the oblivious I? My main idea was to meditate often, often and a lot and basically spending a lot of time visualizing and balancing, and then trying to balance the entire pains I feel about the world, in order to aid the social memory complex in forgiveness and continuance of it into 4D more smoothly. I need to learn how to meditate to noise, there's no comfortable quiet place in my area except a car, and it's not exactly a comfy meditation spot... And all the parks in my neighborhood 'close' after 10pm, and police do patrol my neighborhood so I can't exactly sit in one for too long, plus when I've tried the paranoia got me whenever a car would drive by. So I've got some handling of my thoughts to do first before I get into any real deep meditations for visualizations and balancing. I had a system of balancing a while back. Where you recall various individual memories, attune them to the chakras they resonate with, then balance it across the spectrum and then go back to the memory and forgive it before moving to the next thought or memory. Along the way you can record each memory and it's chakra associations and build a kind of mind-chakra tree grid in a journal if you really want to try mapping out the way your thoughts move from one memory to another and the chakras that ping your mind to pull those memories up. But, suggestions still desired ![]() Thank you for all the current ones thus far! RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - AnthroHeart - 10-13-2015 Ha, going into 4D sounds like a misnomer because you have to die to get there. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - The_Tired_Philosopher - 10-13-2015 With sparse other options to get there. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Jade - 10-13-2015 Hi TTP, when someone says they get worn out easily doing heart-chakra work, to me that says that the lower chakras need some help. Manually clearing your chakras (visualize them spinning and bright, clear) can really help. Discovering and working on those lower blockages is important before the heart can pump out energy at a satisfactory rate. As far as meditating when there is noise, that is a challenge. Earplugs or just even something around the ears to muffle most of the noise should help. But really, I think your first step is making peace with your incarnation and fueling your desire to be here. This is red ray work. If you are angry at the collective Creation, you have a blockage in the root. Any strong desires or fantasies about death or leaving your incarnation can lead to root chakra blockages. This needs to be gently worked which may take some time. When you had your full capacities, you chose to incarnate here. You knew full well the risks and how dirty it was. In fact, chances are, things could probably be worse (I think one of the last Q'uo channelings in 2008 mentions that our vibrations are much higher than anticipated already). But each time we keep our chin up and look for love, we double each effort previous. Sometimes that's enough to encourage me to keep going. Everything helps. Just being here helps. Every step we taking beyond being into doing helps a little more. There are no "others" who are suffering. You are suffering. If you can ease your own suffering, the others' suffering will be eased, as well. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but the first is: stop the suffering within. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - AnthroHeart - 10-13-2015 I keep Jasper and Carnelian stones in my pocket to keep my lower 2 chakras balanced. My 3rd chakra is probably another I could get a stone for but it's a bit too far away from my pockets for the stone to probably work. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - The_Tired_Philosopher - 10-13-2015 (10-13-2015, 02:30 PM)Jade Wrote: Hi TTP, when someone says they get worn out easily doing heart-chakra work, to me that says that the lower chakras need some help. Manually clearing your chakras (visualize them spinning and bright, clear) can really help. Discovering and working on those lower blockages is important before the heart can pump out energy at a satisfactory rate. You lead into root issues really good! I agree wholeheartedly, I am suffering! I have suffered ever since the moment I realized others are suffering! I don't know why, but it's only gotten more and more as time passes. But I keep making sense of it so I imagine I'll be fine. I have various crystals by my side, I usually have several in my right pocket when I'm working to help me stay tuned. I need to remember the names though. I usually like the 7-layer sets, and would actually like to keep stones for each chakra with me at all times. Maybe two for each lower chakra to help me out a bit along the way. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Jade - 10-13-2015 Do either of you clear your stones? If you work with stones regularly to reduce negative energy, it's good to clear that energy on a somewhat regular basis. Smudging with sage, leaving them in the moonlight, resting them in salt - otherwise they can get overloaded. Continuing to process the suffering you feel, again, helps the whole. It's a very noble effort and I'm humbled watching you put the pieces together in your anguish. Thank you for your service, truly. I'm happy to attempt to help any time. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - AnthroHeart - 10-13-2015 I've only had my stones for 3 days. Haven't cleared them yet. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Jade - 10-13-2015 Did you clear them when you brought them home? RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - AnthroHeart - 10-13-2015 (10-13-2015, 03:06 PM)Jade Wrote: Did you clear them when you brought them home? No. I could run them under water to clear them too. But they are sealed in plastic. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Minyatur - 10-13-2015 I never clear any of my crystals. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - The_Tired_Philosopher - 10-13-2015 I loved how clear and pristine they all became after leaving them under the supermoon! I clear them on the moons schedule since I'm a night time guy, otherwise salt, burying them, and running them in water, or sea salt and water bath are viable methods I think. I love crystals, they're my friends
RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Jade - 10-13-2015 Most crystals absorb energy, in fact, most people's intentions when carrying stones is to help protect and/or reduce negativity. Many stones just absorb and store those negative vibes. Also, when you bring one home, you never know who has programmed what into them, or what they've picked up. It's good to clear them once in a while to refresh them and release the stagnant energy, imo. Even if they don't feel bogged down, a difference in energy vitality can usually be felt after a good cleanse. Some stones are too soft to run under water, like selenite. But most are okay. I just burn sage from time to time to energetically clear my whole house, crystals included. The crew asked about a crystal Carla had been given as a gift, and this was Ra's response: Quote:88.7 Questioner: Is the small crystal that the instrument uses upon her during the session of any benefit or detriment? RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - AnthroHeart - 10-13-2015 I don't use my crystals for absorbing negativity. I programmed them for balancing my chakras and keeping me grounded. They are sealed in plastic, so I'd need to rip it open to cleanse them. I also have a quartz double-terminated crystal that I use for my meditations sometimes. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - Minyatur - 10-13-2015 I carry crystals to mix with my vibrations. On shrooms I pick different ones on trips to connect with their energies in nature or charge them with my energy. Or I simply lay out my hand and charge them from times to times when i feel called to. Otherwise they're either on me or placed in 2 geometric grids I made with them. Sometimes there are some that seem to want to be away from me, like I keep dropping it and when it drops it gets somehow far from me or hidden and hard to find. Got a green calcite I lost two times for several months and it ended up breaking into two pieces two days ago. RE: Am I a Nihilist Athiest Spiritualist? - The_Tired_Philosopher - 10-13-2015 That's cause you don't clean the poor fella, just leave it in the moon and apologize to it. They need baths like you too Min ![]() Just turns out they bath differently than us, as well as just like us I had a Larimer that I called Laminar, it grew to seriously dislike me from my never cleaning it. And yup, it disappeared and I have never found it since... I miss it so much... |