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RE: Honesty with a loving touch - third-density-being - 07-19-2015
Hello Dear Jeremy,
(07-16-2015, 09:25 PM)Jeremy Wrote: So I'm grappling with this concept that is about as foreign to me as high level physics. I spoke with Austin via pm about how to change my approach when it came to communication and he noted how Carla had a wonderful ability to being honest but worded it in such a way, that it came off as loving rather than igniting or reinforcing ones own emotional overreactions.
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Whenever You would like to express honest opinion about/to Other-Self, please offer both “positive” and “negative” feedback. It is also pretty good training for the Self – to always recognize within Other-Self “positiveness” – even if Other-Self seems to be “totally negative”.
An Example: (Imaginary Being “Laura”)
1.
Laura, I think that You are very well organized and I appreciate sharpness of your Mind. However, I would like to suggest/point out/share with You my Thoughts regarding your approach to Other-Selves, which seems to me to be quite cruel. Do You know what may be the source of such attitude within You?
- or to change “Judgement” into “expression of One’s Feelings:
2.
I like You Laura, but at the same time it’s unsettling for me how sometimes You are treating Other-Selves
- etc. To offer information that is not “one-sided”. I find this method of communication to be quite effective.
(07-18-2015, 09:01 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote:(07-18-2015, 08:27 PM)Farseer Wrote: I have some pretty deep-rooted self-hatred I still haven't quite balanced.
self-hatred usually sits in the orange ray. Although just being able to localise it isn't always helpful.
but it's to do with one's relationship with the incarnate personality, and the various ways of relating to one's own desires (are these desires ok or not to have, etc etc).
Hello Dear Plenum,
Lately I was meditating and visualizing each “Energy Center” with assigned “proper color” and … my Orange Ray was the only one that seems to be empty. In case of all others I effortlessly saw bright colors of each Ray, but in the case of Orange-One, even when I tried to “filled it” with the color with my will, I was unable to visualize effect of “radiating”. It was more like an “empty hole”.
It is worrisome for me and I’m uncertain how to proceed. I would be grateful for some advice.
All I have Best in me for You
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Plenum - 07-19-2015
28 Posts were split into a new thread:
[split] My Path
* thanks to Farseer for their candidness
* third-density-being's query was answered here.
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Jade - 07-19-2015
The way I see it is, if we want to be effective teachers, we need to be open to learning how to be effective teachers. I understand that you, Jeremy, may appreciate the style of a strict, no-nonsense authoritarian type leading you, but most people don't, I'm sure you understand that. So the question is, are you teaching for yourself, or are you trying to teach others? If it's for the other-selves, you must understand that learning *various* communication styles is ideal for having as broad of a brush stroke as possible. You sense the potential for growth, but you are using the hatchet and not the scalpel.
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Minyatur - 07-19-2015
In life/spiritual teaching, the student ought to lead the teaching orientation in my opinion as you can't force lessons unpon others. From my experience so far this manner seems more efficient and goes more deeply into the roots of the mind. The best one can do is assist others in their growth, not force our own personal ideas of growth upon others.
Also rather than trying to force a person to learn something, I do think it is best to lead that person toward wanting to learn it in the first place. Seeking is a powerful tool, it is hard to learn without first seeking.
Anyway it is all experience as we are ever evolving as teach/learners and learn/teachers.
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Aion - 07-19-2015
Quote:Questioner: [You] previously gave us some information about what we should do in balancing. Is there any information that we can publish now about any particular exercises or methods of balancing [these] centers?
Ra: I am Ra. The exercises given for publication seen in comparison with the material now given are in total a good beginning. It is important to allow each seeker to enlighten itself rather than for any messenger to attempt in language to teach/learn for the entity, thus being teach/learner and learn/teacher. This is not in balance with your third density. We learn from you. We teach to you. Thus, we teach/learn. If we learned for you, this would cause imbalance in the direction of the distortion of free will.There are other items of information allowable. However, you have not yet reached these items in your lines of questioning and it is our belief/feeling complex that the questioner shall shape this material in such a way that your mind/body/spirit complexes shall have entry to it, thus we answer your queries as they arise in your mind complex.
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Jeremy - 07-27-2015
(07-19-2015, 07:18 PM)Aion Wrote:Quote:Questioner: [You] previously gave us some information about what we should do in balancing. Is there any information that we can publish now about any particular exercises or methods of balancing [these] centers?
Ra: I am Ra. The exercises given for publication seen in comparison with the material now given are in total a good beginning. It is important to allow each seeker to enlighten itself rather than for any messenger to attempt in language to teach/learn for the entity, thus being teach/learner and learn/teacher. This is not in balance with your third density. We learn from you. We teach to you. Thus, we teach/learn. If we learned for you, this would cause imbalance in the direction of the distortion of free will.There are other items of information allowable. However, you have not yet reached these items in your lines of questioning and it is our belief/feeling complex that the questioner shall shape this material in such a way that your mind/body/spirit complexes shall have entry to it, thus we answer your queries as they arise in your mind complex.
The paradox in this situation is how do you know when this time comes? How do you not know that such learning isn't from the exact moment of honesty that I exude? I fully understand that it's not up to me to know when an other self is ready for such learning but what or how can anyone know if what I say wasn't intended to be the catalyst that they ultimately needed?
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Jade - 07-28-2015
Of course what you say is the catalyst they need in the moment, however if you want to be more fruitful with your "teaching", you can alter your vibration/style and will attract others who need and will respond to a more gently loving authority type instead of the type who need a strict and blunt authoritarian to rebel against. The most you can do is listen to yourself, and listen to your prompts. Being blunt has been your way so far, but something inside is driving you to seek a different way. So as long as you continue to honestly reflect yourself, you will be giving others the catalyst they need. You can play with that infinitely, however, and alter your style to see different results, and all the while be performing exactly the part you are supposed to within the play. Good luck and don't forget to have fun.
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Aion - 07-28-2015
My thought on the 'refinement' of communication is that the desire is to not feed more distortions than you are attempting to help balance. That's the challenge I see with any kind of communication style is that it can relieve some distortions but bolster others.
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - Bring4th_Austin - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:20 PM)Aion Wrote: My thought on the 'refinement' of communication is that the desire is to not feed more distortions than you are attempting to help balance. That's the challenge I see with any kind of communication style is that it can relieve some distortions but bolster others.
"Not feeding more distortions than you are attempting to help balance" is a good way to frame my own viewpoint as well. With conscious communication, we have a goal. This goal could be attempting to help an individual understand your viewpoint of their distortions. If after we initially attempt to communicate to reach this goal and we find that the person is no closer to understanding our perspective, and is indeed more likely to reject our perspective, then we have failed in our goal. So why would we continue to communicate in the same way when we have evidence that our communication style isn't effective?
Each person is unique in how they will receive our communication. I think it's a built-in system of catalyst that we cannot know how communication will land, and it's unavoidable. Perfect communication simply cannot exist in our environment and we will always be attempting to dance with our own distortions and the distortions of other-selves as we attempt to figure out how best to reach our goals with communication.
I also think that accepting responsibility for the result of our words, even if the reaction is completely due to another's distortions, is a big step. The responsibility only increases when we know that a person will react in a way that is not commensurate with our goals, yet we communicate in that way anyways.
Ra communicated with humans in a specific way with some specific goals. Once they realized their communication did not land as they were hoping, they ceased to communicate in that way and refined their method of communicating. On top of that, they didn't just say, "Peace out Earth! We were honest in our communication, any distortion that comes from that is your responsibility!" Instead, they "have never left your vibration due to our responsibility for the changes in consciousness we had first caused and then found distorted in ways not relegated to the Law of One."
Not to say Ra should be idolized to the point of mimicry, but I think their perspective on the responsibility/honor of communication is balanced and compassionate.
RE: Honesty with a loving touch - AnthroHeart - 07-28-2015
It's easy to have balanced love/wisdom when you're above duality, as Ra is.