(09-04-2015, 04:56 AM)eccentric1 Wrote: Almost everyone posting here seems to be under the false impression that anything associated with STS carries a negative connotation & nothing could be further from the truth. Please review the section on "The Negative Path" : 

(09-04-2015, 05:16 AM)facettes Wrote:

(09-04-2015, 04:56 AM)eccentric1 Wrote: Almost everyone posting here seems to be under the false impression that anything associated with STS carries a negative connotation & nothing could be further from the truth. Please review the section on "The Negative Path" : 

Well, people who are on that path (and very successfully so) seem to understand that issue a bit different, you might want to read the statements of the one who called himself Hidden Hand for one example.

In my own humble opinion, as there is no thought/action that does not influence effect others in some way, there always is an impact on others, too, however you decide in any given situation.

Of course Ra are right in what they say (and I understand what you are saying); but it's a different story what human beings make of it.

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(06-28-2015, 05:47 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote: What truly makes someone STS is:

1. Recognizing that service to self is a viable avenue of growth.

Many people whom we accuse of being STS or evil are really only medicating a wound with a habit they even they see as unsustainable. The addict often knows that his addiction is killing him, but persists because he doesn't know how to live any other way. This is not STS because, as plenum mentioned, the red ray needs are simply not yet met. Most of the examples you offered, Matt1, fail to meet this first requirement.

2. Finding that one's truest expression of self aligns with the STS path.

It's not enough to simply do things that serve yourself, just as it is not enough on the STO path to do things that serve others. What really matters is your intention and the purity of your desire to manifest that intention. We rarely live up to our intentions, but as we polarize we do attempt to improve. Movement on this path, though, is impossible without genuine desire. If you are STO, you must genuinely desire the good of others without considering the benefit it may bring to yourself. An STO person attends to the crying child because she called for help, not because others will think you're a good person if you do. Similarly, an STS person seeks always benefit to herself, without consideration for extraneous concerns. Thus, an STS person needs to do yellow ray work if she conforms to popular opinion in order to feel accepted by a group. On the STS path, attachment to group opinion is a form of weakness. On the STO path, however, it is an unwillingness to accept the self as it is.

3. Consciously choosing to walk the STS path.

It's not enough to identify with STS. Being STS means you actively practice in order to maximize the power of the self, and that you are aware at all times that this is, in fact, what you are doing.

(09-04-2015, 05:56 AM)eccentric1 Wrote: This is slightly off-topic, but IMHO the so-called "Hidden Hand" material is not truly from anyone in the STS negative community. They would not offer that information at all, they would keep that to themselves as a tool to manipulate. I mean really, why would they? No one out to manipulate or control anyone would explain to the general public how & why they do what they do.

(06-27-2015, 09:38 PM)Aion Wrote: The choice is the only thing that truly makes anyone one or the other. The choice being made consciously. I think the attempt to justify the choice then comes.

(06-28-2015, 06:37 PM)Lighthead Wrote: I'm beginning to think of polarity as a stumbling block.

(06-28-2015, 06:37 PM)Lighthead Wrote: When I'm experiencing oneness and bliss while meditating, the last thing I'm thinking about is polarity.

(06-28-2015, 06:37 PM)Lighthead Wrote: Or perhaps I'm polarizing and am not even aware of it. Who knows. I'm open to any possibility.

Quote:19.15 Questioner: Then the newest third-density beings who’ve just made the transition from second are still strongly biased towards self-service. There must be many other mechanisms to create an awareness of the possibility of service to others.

I am wondering, first— two things. I’m wondering about the mechanism and I am wondering when the split takes place where the entity is able to continue on the road towards service to self that will eventually take him to fourth or fifth density.

I would assume that an entity can continue— can start, say, in second density with service totally to self and continue right on through and just stay on what we would call the path of service to self and never ever be pulled over. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The second-density concept of serving self includes the serving of those associated with tribe or pack. This is not seen in second density as separation of self and other-self. All is seen as self since in some forms of second-density entities, if the tribe or pack becomes weakened, so does the entity within the tribe or pack.

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.

(09-04-2015, 08:48 AM)Monica Wrote:

(06-27-2015, 09:38 PM)Aion Wrote: The choice is the only thing that truly makes anyone one or the other. The choice being made consciously. I think the attempt to justify the choice then comes.

I strongly disagree. That would negate nearly everything Ra said about the attributes of the paths. Plus, that would mean that no one every polarizes in either direction until they consciously choose to. (Assuming you meant the choice to actively pursue a path.)

Unless you mean the choice to serve self vs self/other-self? which is a different choice and one that is made on a moment-by-moment basis.

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Quote:Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The second-density concept of serving self includes the serving of those associated with tribe or pack. This is not seen in second density as separation of self and other-self. All is seen as self since in some forms of second-density entities, if the tribe or pack becomes weakened, so does the entity within the tribe or pack.

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.