RE: Ra on The Golden Dawn - VanAlioSaldo - 05-15-2015
(05-15-2015, 02:37 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: (05-15-2015, 01:14 PM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: (05-13-2015, 05:01 AM)Tan.rar Wrote: Fool (Matrix of the Mind)
I am seriously losing my mind here or something, I thought The Fool was the Significator of the Body and the Magician the Matrix of the Mind...
Questioner Wrote:Are rituals designed by a particular group for their own particular use just as good or possibly better than those that have been practiced by groups Ra Wrote:I am Ra. Although we are unable to speak with precision on this query, we may note some gratification that the questioner has penetrated some of the gist of a formidable system of service and discipline. Is how I interpreted this. I saw it more that Ra was referring to the act of "rituals designed by a particular group for their own particular use" as that system of service and discipline which is formidable. But they may very well have also meant it about the Golden Dawn.
That doesn't make sense to me since they refer specifically to "a formidable system". If they were just referring to various rituals designed by a group, that to me wouldn't constitute an established 'system'. It seems clear to me that they are referring to the Golden Dawn system as in the question Don asks if self-designed rituals are "just as good" as Golden Dawn rituals which shows that Don clearly appreciates the Golden Dawn system and I believe it is this appreciation and knowledge that Ra is acknowledging.
There are a couple quotes which I believe support this.
Quote:42.16 Questioner: I had one experience in meditation which I spoke of before which was very profound approximately twenty years ago, a little less. What disciplines would be most applicable to re-create this situation and this type of experience?
Ra: I am Ra. Your experience would best be approached from the ceremonial magical stance. However, the Wanderer or adept shall have the far greater potential for this type of experience which, as you have undoubtedly analyzed to be the case, is one of an archetypal nature, one belonging to the roots of cosmic consciousness.
42.17 Questioner: Was that in any way related to the Golden Dawn in ceremonial magic?
Ra: I am Ra. The relationship was congruency.
42.18 Questioner: Then in attempting to reproduce this experience would I then best follow practices for the Order of the Golden Dawn in reproducing this?
Ra: I am Ra. To attempt to reproduce an initiatory experience is to move, shall we say, backwards. However, the practice of this form of service to others is appropriate in your case working with your associates. It is not well for positively polarized entities to work singly. The reasons for this are obvious.
It seems to me to be pretty clear there that Ra is suggesting to Don that the practice of Golden Dawn ceremonial magical is a worthwhile path to follow, especially when doing work in a group. I believe this also shows that Don clearly had an interest in the Golden Dawn and was studying their techniques, so it could be also that Ra suggests it for Don because he is already familiar with it.
Thus, it is suggested to me that the techniques of the Golden Dawn and the teachings of Ra are highly compatible.
I can agree with you. I think it may be doubly noted but otherwise I think I'm just having an issue again with semantics, I'm sorry about that. I say I took it without context being made to the Golden Dawn because it just seemed like Ra was answering the question in general more so than specifically about the Golden Dawn, but in a manner that still refers to the Golden Dawn as well for having formidable systems. Also considering I have no idea what the Golden Dawn order actually is (or what half of what you're all talking about is referring to since I never studied any of these areas, which is peaking my interest.) I probably wasn't in the proper perspective of mind to immediately understand Ra as talking about the Golden Dawn.
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