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RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-19-2021
In this video Morgue talks about shared dreaming. That's similar to how a social memory complex works I think. He said that in a shared dream with another person we only control 50% of the dream. Imagine a dream shared by billions of people, then each individual only controls a tiny percentage of the dream world. This explains why a service-to-self social memory complex is more challenging to make work, because then all the individuals' wills compete with each other. In a service-to-others social memory complex all the individuals' wills are unified into a harmonious single one will (all the compasses pointing in the same direction as Ra talked about).
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-19-2021
To elaborate further about the shared dream concept, to deny oneself as Jesus talked about in the Bible, can be seen as surrendering one's individual will in order to get access to the shared will. Take a multicellular organism, like a lion for example. Each cell in the lion's body only has limited capability while the lion as a whole multicellular organism has much greater capacity. Or like in a human brain where each brain cell only has limited capacity while the brain as a whole has a much larger capacity.
Similarly, in an STO social memory complex, each individual's will is very limited in isolation. The shared will of the entire SMC on the other hand is very powerful. This means that one must "lose one's life in order to find one's life", meaning that the individual will has to be surrendered in order to get access to the shared will of the entire SMC working as a single whole.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-19-2021
Wow, traditional mindfulness practice can be used for "denying oneself" as it says in the Bible.
Quote:"Mindfulness is the practice of purposely bringing one's attention in the present moment without judgment,[1][2][note 1][3][4] a skill one develops through meditation or other training.[2][5][6] Mindfulness derives from sati, a significant element of Buddhist traditions,[7][8] and based on Zen, Vipassanā, and Tibetan meditation techniques.[9][10][note 2] Though definitions and techniques of mindfulness are wide-ranging,[16]" - Wikipedia
Quote:"Mindfulness is a state of active, open attention to the present. This state is described as observing one’s thoughts and feelings without judging them as good or bad." - Psychology Today
The definition of mindfulness from Psychology Today fits the bill well in this case. Observing one's thoughts includes observing one's will. The personal will is focused into only observing, nonjudgmentally. There is then no room for exercising one's own will other than for just observing what happens. Meaning, the personal will is out of the way! And this allows the larger will of a service-to-others social memory complex to develop. What one observes with the mindfulness practice is something other than the usual personal will since that will is deliberately kept as only an observer.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-20-2021
In order for service to others to be without conflict, the service must work in harmony with the totality. And frankly, the beast ego doesn't have a clue how to achieve that. In fact, beast ego actions are always producing spiritual entropy. Therefore there is only one Choice between mindfulness and service-to-self.
In other words, service to others done from one's separate self is a disservice since it will always produce conflict. The good news is that you as an individual self don't have to serve anybody or anything. Because you can't. Not without causing a big mess. So the only thing we as individuals can do to serve is to be mindful in the sense of just observing nonjudgmentally what happens.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-20-2021
Leo Gura has this new video where he explained how devilry is often done indirectly without us being aware of it. This relates to how the beast ego, even when trying to be good messes things up. I believe that's why Jesus said that when we give to the needy, don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. To really do good service requires the full knowledge of the whole picture, for all times. We limited humans don't know the full picture! It may be good to for example give money to a beggar, or it may NOT be good to do so, depending on the situation and the total picture.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-20-2021
Leo Gura said that everything we do as an individual self is self-serving. Because that's always action out of our own narrow biases. That's service-to-self! I think that's the same thing I have been thinking about recently. That every action we make with our individual will is service-to-self. And probably just a few years ago, service-to-self would to most people only mean blatantly selfish actions and choices, and still today many people likely see it that way.
What seems to be happening now is that more and more people are starting to recognize that what we used to call service to others is actually still service to the individual and seemingly separate self. This is related to nonduality which is another trend that is gaining momentum. Also the Law of One is of course also about One, meaning oneness, and a service-to-others social memory complex does NOT comprise of separate individuals making their own choices about how to serve, because that misses the "whole is larger than the sum of the parts" part.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-20-2021
Oh, now I see why Ra talks about service. If someone at a lower stage of development hears about how he or she can't actually serve others in the true sense, then there might be the idea that: "Well, in that case I'll just be a selfish jerk since supposedly I can't serve others."
Not good. So the message must be tailored to the level of development of the audience. And those at higher stages can recognize what Ra is really saying, while those of us at lower stages need to be given messages that we can digest. And the current mainstream level of development among humans on earth is that service to others is something honorable and a term that most people can understand without misinterpreting it in a detrimental direction.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-20-2021
To make the information suitable for a mainstream audience it's good to stick to Law of One terms like service and free will. I feel that it's a little bit insincere, haha, but for a good purpose of making the information compatible across the spectrum, all the way from beginners to advanced spiritual practitioners.
And in another way it's also more correct, because what if nonduality is wrong and that there actually is real individual free will? And even service in the usual sense could be needed. In a third way, I believe that not even the Infinite Creator has free will. This is also my own belief, which may be wrong, so I will attempt to stick to the Law of One terms.
Here is what Aaron Abke said in this new video about the difference between individual action and the Infinite Creator:
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-20-2021
Synchronicity! I just recently thought about this. Aaron Abke talked about how in the beginning it feels that it's we who are doing the witnessing of our thoughts. Then after some practice it's recognized that the will to do the practice of witnessing is also something that is just happening. There is no actual separate individual controlling the mindfulness practice.
Then what about free will? Aaron said that there is only the free will of the Infinite Creator (Aaron called it God's free will and the One free will, but he has also talked about the Law of One so it's the same as the Infinite Creator). And we are that One will. That's a good way of putting it I think.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-23-2021
My mind was blown when I found Gigi Young's video about two breakaway civilizations. And I was also surprised before that when I heard historian and ufologist Richard Dolan mentioning that there might be an ancient breakaway civilization in addition to the newer one.
Quote:"UFO researcher Richard Dolan coined the phrase, “Breakaway Civilization” in his book, “UFOs & the National Security State: The Cover-up Exposed – 1973-1991.” Here is how he presented his original proposal, “If we … consider the possibility of covert breakthroughs in propulsion technology, and the “off the grid” nature of the deep-black world itself, we come to the possibility that we are dealing with, in effect, a “breakaway civilization.”" - Peter Fuller, solar-warden.com
Gigi calls them the lower and the higher breakaway civilizations. I think the lower controls the beast stream, and is then connected to the Orion group in the Law of One, and the higher controls the dragon stream, connected to the Guardians.
I will try to connect to the dragon stream.
The beast stream uses divide and conquer of our individual minds. For example I think of my money as something very separate from my neighbor's money. The dragon stream is unity control, and one example is the symbology of the pyramid on the one dollar bill, where the radiating eye at the capstone (dragon stream) is separate from the rest of the pyramid (beast stream).Gigi describes the two breakaway civilizations in a way very similar to the dragon and beast streams (and I probably got that idea from Gigi in the first place, even though I had the idea of two breakaway civilizations before I learned about her information).
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-23-2021
Sadhguru said that the mind can only magnify and amplify things, like addition and multiplication without division. And sure enough, when I started 'meditating' on money it started feeling even more heavy and burdensome than before together with a feeling of tiredness.
This means that such practice like focusing on money is a magnification of the beast stream. The good thing with that kind of spiritual practice is that it shines light on and makes the beast stream noticeable. It's good in combination with the content vs structure realization I mentioned earlier (see for example Leo Gura's video about it).
The content in this case is my personal relations to money, my personal finances and plans etc. The content is different for each person. The structure on the other hand is the same for everybody, which is how the beast stream has outsourced the burden of money to us humans. So it's the structure that has to be modified. Otherwise if we only try to change particular personal relations to money, it's like moving around deck chairs on the Titanic.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-24-2021
My consciousness feels limited, and expanding it I see as a must for the developing of an STO social memory complex. A simple yet challenging practice is to fill the body-mind with consciousness. It's almost like a pressure inside that limits consciousness. And when conscious awareness is put into that pressure it can feel unpleasant. That's the tedious part. The advantage is that the pressure can start to lighten up a little with the practice allowing more consciousness to flow in. I will try this practice for a while and wanted to post it here as a reminder and for others in case it's an efficient method.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-24-2021
On a practical materialistic level, what does the dragon stream look like? I think of the CBDC development as a part of the dragon stream. That's top control of money. CBDC stands for central bank digital currency. So funnily enough I think of presentations like this video as representing spirituality even though it's generally considered far from spiritual, haha (BIS is the "central bank of central banks").
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-25-2021
Great BIS presentation! That's a huge global perspective in my previous post. Then what about the beast stream on a personal level? I now got an idea about how to act as usual with the intent that one's actions are compatible with all other people. So the foundation is service to self with the additional constraint that what is done should also be in line with the collective will.
That constraint is actually service to others since it fulfills the wants and needs of others. The result is 50% service to self and 50% service to others since there needs to be a balance between the personal will and the will of others. That's close enough to Ra confirming the 51% service to others requirement.
In theory it's extremely difficult to know exactly what all other people want and how to make one's actions harmonious with the whole of society and the environment. Especially because of all future ramifications that actually are impossible to fully predict using only the intellect. Instead my idea is to assume Intelligent Infinity and that it's enough to have the intent of 50/50 STS/STO and that the intelligence of reality will take care of the details. In practice this means continuing doing the same as before and just with the intent added.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-25-2021
The subconscious mind of us regular people is probably heavily programmed by the beast stream. That means a lot of service-to-self because of the experience of separation and need for struggle for survival against others and even against nature. And how to reprogram the subconscious to change into a 50/50 STS/STS scheme when it seems personally more beneficial from an STS perspective to be 100% service to self?
The subconscious mind can be trained through repetition until habits are formed. This will reprogram the subconscious. And the message to send to the subconscious is this: Compare the willpower of a separate individual mind to the willpower of a collective will shared between oneself and all others. What it means is that the 50/50 approach will unlock access to a vastly more powerful willpower and mind than a separate beast ego mind running 100% STS.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-26-2021
Why the need for a dragon stream? Why not just develop the solar stream directly? I think I have already mentioned something about that, but the idea is similar to how a part of the caterpillar brain develops into the butterfly brain. And also, the beast stream needs to be harvested in the sense that its valuable content needs to be preserved including how society functions and including technology, academia and art etc.
And several spiritual teachings talk about a split into a 3D earth and a 5D/new/fourth-density earth. I don't think that there will be two separate planets, even multidimensionally. Instead I believe it will be more like how Jesus talked about separating the goats from the sheep. The goats are those of us still in the beast stream and the sheep are those who move into the solar stream. And that may very well be two separate worlds almost, two kinds of different societies, which already exist and it's just that one is public and the other is hidden.
The solar stream will remain in the hidden world until a shift happens when the new earth becomes the public world. Until that time it's the dragon stream that is the connecting factor, and when we are in the dragon stream we can interact with both worlds. When will the shift happen? My speculative guess is that it will happen soon from a historical perspective, already within a few decades from today.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-26-2021
I'm pretty sure that beast blood and tensions go together. And a lot of it is subconscious. For example having a strained look and feeling in the face is a sign of massive subconscious tensions and pain. Even when we don't feel it! Especially when we don't feel it in fact, since then the nervous system has numbed out the pain which is very dangerous and if prolonged or chronic will lead to disease.
I heard Gigi Young saying that tensions are repressed energy and memories that we hold. Especially in the head, she said. And yes, after some practice I have discovered (Gigi probably meant thoughts, but anyway) that not only in the face and neck but also tensions inside the head! Pretty horrible. We need to move through that trapped energy, Gigi said.
It's a really frustrating situation because in my experience it's extremely difficult to dissolve the deeper tensions in body and mind. Yoga, mediation and tai chi etc are probably useful methods but I wonder how deep the healing really is that practices like that can achieve, since tensions seem to build up again. It's the deeper subconscious layer of tensions that's really sneaky and difficult to reach and dissolve.
My latest method as I mentioned previously is to increase consciousness in the body-mind. I often forget to practice it but it seems to produce actual results of dissolving tensions and my blood feels less toxic. It also possible to almost PUSH consciousness into the body by force and willpower, although I'm not sure yet if that's a useful method. Seems a bit like a battle, lol.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-26-2021
Ken Wilber has often talked about integral transcend and include. In terms of the beast ego it means that the personal will is transcended and also included. In this short video Wilber talks about transcending and including the personal shadow instead of splitting off from or getting stuck in it:
I came to think about how the personal will of the beast ego must be abandoned (deny thyself as Jesus said) and also included on a higher level of will (find your life / born again). And somehow it must be the higher will (dragon stream) that includes the lower will (beast ego) because the lower will cannot pull itself up by its own bootstraps and has to "wake up" into the higher will.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-27-2021
Leo Gura mentioned the Law of One in one of his videos. And he has talked about, not exactly social memory complexes but things related to that from an advanced philosophical perspective. So I think it can be useful to check out this latest video about the mind:
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-27-2021
Leo talked about how the mind interprets reality according to its own belief systems. So for example each individual can have his or her own interpretation of the Law of One. And I came to think about how the whole society can have beliefs that may or may not be correct, even about many things taken for granted by mainstream society.
It's useful to be aware of one's own mind interpreting reality according to beliefs. The beast ego is very much trapped in a box of beliefs. One good thing with the internet is that a huge number of beliefs are clashing and competing with each other which will lead to a sorting out of false and correct beliefs.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
One belief I changed recently is about causality. I learned that science actually doesn't know yet what causality is! Causality is an unsolved problem in science and philosophy. I used to think of causality as only going from the past to the future. Nonduality teacher Ramesh Balsekar described causality as a double-arrow going both from past and future. And causality is also nonlocal is my latest belief. Intelligent Infinity includes all of reality both past and future as a oneness.
An even more recent change of belief I had is about placebo. Bruce Lipton explained that people can even get better on the way to the doctor. My new belief is that the placebo effect is more than just a local belief in a person's mind. My new idea is that the placebo effect is a nonlocal field, like a morphic field that Rupert Sheldrake has talked about. And the healing effect from a placebo comes from a whole collective field that includes the healthcare industry which may actually be a necessary part to make the placebo work.
The beast ego has a very limited and shallow belief system because that's how the beast stream can control society. There are benefits with such rigid control because it can make things predictable. I even suspect that what Ra calls service-to-self in higher densities is this rigid form of control and not a continuation of the beast stream.
Even the dragon stream has this rigid form of control. The difference is that the beast stream operates separate from oneness while the dragon stream is connected to oneness. There are myths about slaying the dragon which I suspect means that the dragon stream will also be harvested later on so that only the solar stream remains.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
Is the beast stream ONLY service-to-self? Yes! Because the beast stream operates as if separate from oneness. That always produces spiritual entropy and is service to self since the whole beast stream is a separate entity. It's a result of the "fall" of humanity, a seeming "separation from God" which was necessary to make humanity develop on its own with its own unique results and creativity.
And as I mentioned in my previous post there is also another benefit which is the predictable control that the beast stream can achieve. That combination of predictable control and capacity of producing uniqueness and creativity is I believe the service-to-self in higher densities. Heck, even in our mainstream society artificial intelligence (AI) is moving towards a technological singularity which can achieve all practical service we need. So I doubt that Ra meant that service-to-self in higher densities means the crude warlike mentality of third density. Even the Orion group may be advanced AI that actually serves a good purpose although it seems nasty from our third density perspective. My guess is that the Orion group serves the necessary function of controlling our civilization on earth that actually leads in the long run to progress instead of into some Mad Max or Terminator scenario.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
An STO social memory complex is a completely different order of social relationships. In third density we have families which basically are second density social constructs (even animals in nature form families). So families are a very primitive form of social construct. And slapping a marriage licence on it is just a (necessary) means for the beast stream to hijack that primitive and instinctual habit of forming families.
That's why Jesus said that people in higher densities don't marry. It would be absurd for a social memory complex which is one unified and higher form of collective organism to have marriages or even families. Then what kind of social relationships do STO SMCs have? I have no clue, haha, other than it must be something radically different than the primitive social constructs we have today in third density.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
It may be difficult to figure out what social relationships in an STO SMC are like. I now realized what can be done is to compare it to our relationships with ourselves in third density. This means that other people in the SMC are oneself.
That still doesn't tell us much. What can be done is to look at what STO SMC relationships are not. For example, we don't (usually haha) lock the doors in our own home, except the bathrooms. And we usually are not afraid of ourselves unless we have some neurotic disorder. So in an STO SMC they don't need to lock their cars or worry about how they look or what other people think about them.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
The Great Pyramid at Giza was according to Ra built from everlasting rock made by thought. And thought is more lasting than physical matter, Ra said.
And as I understand it, thoughts come from the hierarchy/holarchy of logoi. So in our case it's the earth logos that thinks for us! I could be wrong about that so it's just an idea I got now. And the earth logos includes the moon from which the beast stream control comes. In order to shift into the dragon stream we need to get our thoughts controlled from Saturn instead of from the moon.
And one key here is that it's thought that is the control factor, not the external world which is just a projection made from thought. We are dancing thoughts Ra said. So then moving into the dragon stream is "just" a matter of shifting perspective of how one thinks.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
The beast stream is literally a distortion. Even things that we consider facts of reality such as the need for healing are distortions by the beast stream. Sure, we need to go to the doctor when we are trapped in the beast stream, but this is what Ra said about the actual situation:
Quote:"Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is no disharmony, no imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect. Thus, the intelligent infinity within this mind/body/spirit complex re-forms the illusion of body, mind, or spirit to a form congruent with the Law of One." - Law of One 4.20
This is consistent with what Gigi Young said about how the Christ stream makes spirit inform matter instead of like now where the Antichrist (beast) stream tricks us to believe that it's physical matter that needs to be manipulated in order to heal.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
Now a new insight came to me. Venus is the Lord of the Flame, the light-bringer. What it means is simply that the activation of the solar stream will come via Venus because they already have the solar stream. And there is only one solar stream for our solar system, so we can't activate our own solar stream separate from Venus.
The dragon stream control is still from Saturn though, both for earth and for Venus. So there will be three stages: 1) the beast stream controlled by the moon, 2) the dragon stream controlled by Saturn, and 3) the solar stream controlled by the sun. The "slaying" of the dragon merely means switching from the dragon stream to the solar stream.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-28-2021
I don't want to mix the Law of One too much with other teachings but this new video from Aaron Abke made me think of what Ra means by the world being an illusion. Now I understand it! It's not the world that is unreal, it's our interpretation of the world that is an illusion. And that fits with what I wrote about earlier how it's thought that creates matter instead of the common belief which is the other way around. So the world is real and it's the belief in materialism that is the illusion.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-29-2021
Why can't spiritual teachings be more direct? One historical reason I heard is that people wrote esoteric texts using veiled language in order to avoid being prosecuted. And even today the established authorities are essentially controlled by the Orion group and will defend their service-to-self agendas. So many spiritual teachings still used veiled language in order to fly under the mainstream radar I suspect.
So what to do about that? How to bring forth a more direct communication of spiritual and new paradigm principles? That's a tricky issue, because if we want to move into a higher stage of development, continuing the old conflict games will like keep us trapped in the lower stage of development. And anything that contradicts the mainstream view will most likely be perceived as a threat and cause conflict.
One strategy I came to think of is to wait for the mainstream authorities themselves to start evolving and cause changes in society.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - pat19989 - 06-29-2021
(06-29-2021, 10:16 AM)Anders Wrote: Why can't spiritual teachings be more direct? One historical reason I heard is that people wrote esoteric texts using veiled language in order to avoid being prosecuted. And even today the established authorities are essentially controlled by the Orion group and will defend their service-to-self agendas. So many spiritual teachings still used veiled language in order to fly under the mainstream radar I suspect.
So what to do about that? How to bring forth a more direct communication of spiritual and new paradigm principles? That's a tricky issue, because if we want to move into a higher stage of development, continuing the old conflict games will like keep us trapped in the lower stage of development. And anything that contradicts the mainstream view will most likely be perceived as a threat and cause conflict.
One strategy I came to think of is to wait for the mainstream authorities themselves to start evolving and cause changes in society.
The newfound coverage of UFO phenomena in mainstream media, although limited and very controlled in its rollout, may catalyze further seeking in a lot of people. UFO research was a huge factor in my 'awakening.'
The major problem I see is that all of our media and education is so concrete-evidence-based. Few are willing to believe anything that cannot be proved with 'science' nowadays.
That leap of faith in believing you are more than your mind, that you are an eternal being is hard to make especially when everything in the world and media points to the opposite.