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RE: More Elenin - loop - 11-30-2011
(11-30-2011, 03:33 PM)Pickle Wrote: Creating an energy field without first clearing my personal space includes the dark energies as part of the field I create.
I really enjoy readings this
It's not easy to clean your own field and it doesn't always work, but the effort is very important and beneficial. Though the negative portions are also beneficial, and I don't mind touching this part of myself too, but not too often.
I'm at stage that I want to realize and integrate all my parts up to some extent. The negative projections and thoughts I experience are sometimes very powerful and overwhelming. I don't usually agree with such thoughts, but it's definitely enriching having them. Part of me is REALLY CREATIVE in doing nasty things. Actually, it's about as creative as the part which projects positive feelings. Oh and I'm a Gemini and integrating the duality is an important part of my life.
I definitely agree with mr Pickle here! Cleaning up the personal space is a must. I can't keep meditative state if negative influences start to take place. I need to take a break, clean up a new, and restart. I just seek and enjoy the lightness much more than the darkness and it's necessary to put these extra efforts.
RE: More Elenin - BrownEye - 11-30-2011
Many folks might feel fear when they first find out there is "darkness" inside or around them. What they don't realize is that most often they have called it to them. Somewhat like leaving food out on your porch. Certain life forms will be attracted to the "food" left out in the open. It is all a part of our lesson.
I occasionally check myself for attachments and clear them if I am told it is best. Otherwise, I don't really see any need for worry. Unless of course they have more control over your emotions than your rational mind. And use up your life force faster than you replenish it. Then it is very important to focus on changes and "clean up house". (Cleanliness is next to godliness) LoL
I will be doing a juice fast during my christmas vacation. I will put more effort into meditation and see just where I can get. I need to learn what some of the effects I experience mean.
RE: More Elenin - apeiron - 11-30-2011
(11-30-2011, 03:30 PM)Icaro Wrote:(11-30-2011, 11:13 AM)apeiron Wrote: Possibly what we have is a case of very contaminated channeling.Quote:What are you referring to? The Law of One being contaminated?
Not at all. I am referring at Puharich's channelings regarding Spectra. I think Don realized this was possibly contaminated by Orion influences after Ra sessions (1 to 21).
I think the Ra material is at this point the most accurate channeling available.
Weird my post did not "post"...
I was replying to Icaro. I was referring to Puharich's channeling of Spectra.
Ra material still is the most accurate channeling to date known by me, at least.
(11-30-2011, 03:30 PM)Icaro Wrote: [quote='apeiron' pid='63886' dateline='1322665987']
Possibly what we have is a case of very contaminated channeling.
What are you referring to? The Law of One being contaminated?
Questioner: I was thinking last night that if I were in the place of Ra right now, the first distortion of the Law of One might cause me to mix some erroneous data with the true information that I was transmitting to this group. Do you do this?
Ra: I am Ra. We do not intentionally do this. However, there will be confusion.
Consider that the state of mind of the seeker is obviously extremely important. Don was a part of the channel itself, and even if you walk a circle of light, if he had entirely innocent notions towards seeking specific information, those persuasions exist within the circle itself that has been walked.
Now, as questions are asked, Don being a part of the channel who is unaware of the negative magical influence that is being exerted on the entire process ["Thus those whose desires are shallow or transitory experience only ephemeral configurations of what might be called the magical circumstance."], the negative influence (specific information) begins asserting it's influence in the vibratory choice of words.
So when Ra says they don't intentionally do this, and that there will be confusion, they are referring to the correctness of the channeled statement, yet the choice of words will influence the seeker depending on their alignment.
No I was referring to puharich's channeling of Spectra.
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RE: More Elenin - apeiron - 11-30-2011
It appears now I can post.
Anyway, Icaro, no, I was referring to the channelings of Spectra under influence of Puharich.
I still consider the Ra material as the most reliable source since Carla was not even present in her body it was Ra.
RE: More Elenin - native - 11-30-2011
Consider that there is only one spirit. Consider this well
. I understand your position, but hear me again..there is only one spirit. It's vibratory rates and patterns will encompass each and every condition.Ra inhabited her yellow ray body, meaning, all other bodies were Carla's. The fact that 'Ra' can even enter the yellow ray body while 'Carla' leaves emphasizes how there is only one spirit. I agree that the material is the most reliable source of information available, but the magical circumstance allows unity to be preserved.
Consider that the pyramids were aligned with the Orion constellation. Intelligent energy workings encompass both polarities, that is, intelligent energy has no polarity. The material provides positive and negative catalyst based on the reader's distortions, and it is intended to be that way. "We do not intentionally do this. However, there will be confusion." The Law of Confusion..also the Law of Free Will. Ultimately, the material's nature is in service to others..yet it must provide service to self catalyst. Unity is inherently incorporated in energy exchanges.
RE: More Elenin - BrownEye - 12-01-2011
(11-30-2011, 11:26 PM)Icaro Wrote: Intelligent energy workings encompass both polarities, that is, intelligent energy has no polarity. The material provides positive and negative catalyst based on the reader's distortions, and it is intended to be that way. "We do not intentionally do this. However, there will be confusion." The Law of Confusion..also the Law of Free Will.
This parallels what I find with religious texts too.
RE: More Elenin - apeiron - 12-01-2011
(12-01-2011, 02:58 AM)Pickle Wrote:(11-30-2011, 11:26 PM)Icaro Wrote: Intelligent energy workings encompass both polarities, that is, intelligent energy has no polarity. The material provides positive and negative catalyst based on the reader's distortions, and it is intended to be that way. "We do not intentionally do this. However, there will be confusion." The Law of Confusion..also the Law of Free Will.
This parallels what I find with religious texts too.
Ra is part of the Confederation and they (the CONFEDERATION) are of the positive orientation. This is probably the 'purest' channeling from the confederation.
There is no polarity is mid 6D. That is true. However, we are in 3D. Even after the choice, there is still 4D and 5 D.
Accepting in these lower densities Orion influences, has a danger metaphysically (in time-space) since who knows what you are allowing your own spirit to accept. Moreover, if you are conscious of it (aware), the spiritual implications can open the door for negative influence (of your own volition). One thing is recognizing negative path and knowing it exist, the other one ACCEPTANCE of it FOR YOU. This to me, acts as permission for Orion to enter/influence. No biggie, just to be aware of influences of time-space as well, now that we are in space-time.
Many people here have advanced spiritual/adepthood knowledge thanks to the Ra material. Once you have that you are responsible as well.
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But my inquiry was as to what Don was thinking in Q/A 21 about the origin of Spectra channelings by Uri Geller organized by Puharich. Seems to me that Don was thinking about possible orion origins, after he learned from Ra about orion?
RE: More Elenin - native - 12-01-2011
(12-01-2011, 11:06 AM)apeiron Wrote: Ra is part of the Confederation and they (the CONFEDERATION) are of the positive orientation. This is probably the 'purest' channeling from the confederation.
Consider what your definition of positive is. Our definitions of 'positive' when we are talking about concepts of unity require advanced contemplation. Ask yourself what is 'pure' to a being with no polarity? Pureness, in this sense, must offer catalyst in very subtle ways to both aspects of other selves.
They are service to others in the highest of senses, and any working must be an offering to each polarity, otherwise there can be no working.
Channeling is a working. There must be subtleties so that we each interpret it in our own ways.
Quote:Moreover, if you are conscious of it (aware), the spiritual implications can open the door for negative influence (of your own volition).
Every thought is catalyst. If you are conscious of the negative influences in your own mind, and we know negative information works through specifics and prophecy, we balance distortion. We overcome the negative influence and transmute it into positivity.
(12-01-2011, 02:58 AM)Pickle Wrote: This parallels what I find with religious texts too.
I haven't read much of the bible, but I remember reading something about Jesus saying to be like water..and something about low places? I thought that was interesting. To me it implies that positivity must necessarily seek out those low places within the world (us)..to go toward them..that is, to take negativity into account and accept it so that all is balanced.
RE: More Elenin - BrownEye - 12-01-2011
(12-01-2011, 11:53 AM)Icaro Wrote: To me it implies that positivity must necessarily seek out those low places within the world (us)..to go toward them..that is, to take negativity into account and accept it so that all is balanced.
I think this is it for sure. We have to hit the farthest reach of darkness before we can truly be "one". In order to fully evolve in this type of pattern. If we can not be darkness, how can we be light? We would have no idea we were light..........
I guess we could look at it as a vibration. Vibrating is an oscillation from one end to the other. This fits my past as well. The archetypes I needed to break free of were the master/slave. I was the master in my previous life. This life I am the slave. As I become aware of my position I am now working to break free of my slavery.
RE: More Elenin - native - 12-01-2011
I think we are perhaps always a slave, in that we are always working towards the unconscious..until there is eventual melding of reciprocals.
That is..the unconscious always has control of us if we are not aware of it. So we think we are victims..yet we aren't.
RE: More Elenin - BrownEye - 12-16-2011
http://m.yahoo.com/w/news_america/comet-lovejoy-survives-fiery-plunge-sun-nasa-says-015706403.html?orig_host_hdr=news.yahoo.com&.intl=us&.lang=en-us
Interesting coincidences. Elenin was implied extinction level event by some, and was shown to be "stopped" by our sun. Now we have Lovejoy zipping through the sun unphased, do we have codes by names going on?
I also wonder about the dna sources from comets, do they affect this planet when absorbed into the sun?
RE: More Elenin - apeiron - 12-20-2011
are you implying comets are some type of carriers/messengers from "higher up"? The next level up for the sub-Logos would be the galactic central sun or Galactic Logos.